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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 07:01 AM
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A Preview of the September Lies
Did you find yourself wondering why the media pretended that President Bush was making a rational point with his attempts to justify the US war of occupation in Iraq by comparing it to what didn’t happen in Vietnam? Did you wonder why Ari Fleischer’s commercial that used images of 9-11 to justify the continued war of occupation in Iraq went largely unchallenged?

Do journalists believe that honest men rely upon outright lies in a search for truth? Or is it possible that many journalists are willing participants in the swift-boating of the truth? Let’s take a look back at the historic example of a man named Bob Novak, and see if we can find any evidence of how some journalists assist in "perception management," which is a fancy term for manipulating the news.

Perhaps we should start with a memorandum authored by Bob Haldeman on February 10, 1973. Bob outlined his thoughts on trying to connect "Communist money that was used in support of demonstrations against the President in 1972" to the democratic party. He advocated saying it "leads directly to McGovern and Teddy Kennedy. This is a good counter offensive to be developed …."

But the honorable Bob Haldeman wasn’t about to stop with a lie alone. He wanted to include a smear against a democratic public official in Fort Wayne, who was rumored to have fathered an illegitimate child: "There’s also the question of whether we should let out the Fort Wayne story now – that we ran a clean campaign compared to theirs of libel and slander and such against Rebozo, etc. We could let Evans and Novak put it out and then be asked about it to make the point that we knew and the President said it was not to be used under any circumstance."

Why did the Nixon administration think that esteemed journalists like Evans and Novak would cooperate in such dishonest activities? Perhaps the answer is found on page 287 of the Senate Watergate Report: "In December 1971, (Herbert) Porter sent a transcript of one of the filmed documents from Muskie headquarters to Magruder. ….Magruder asked Porter to have the transcript retyped on plain bond stationary and sent to Evans and Novak. Porter did so. Evans and Novak printed it, and the hearings were never held."

Or, we might want to consider page 667 of the Senate Watergate Report: "Nevertheless, Buchanan concluded that the Ellsberg issue would not ‘be turned around in the public mind by a few well-placed leaks.’ Lest there be any doubt about his position, he then stated, ‘This is not to argue that the effort is not worthwhile – but that simply we ought not now to start investing major personnel resources in the kind of covert operation not likely to yield any major political dividends to the President.’

"No legal or moral problems for Buchanan; just an objection to the management end of it.

"Mr. Buchanan also testified, as to documents surrepititiously taken from the Muskie campaign and photographed by ‘Fat Jack.’ Buchanan testified that he ‘did get the material on two occasions, and (he) did recommend that it be sent to columnists Evans and Novak. Evans and Novak did print, on two occasions, I believe, material from Muskie’s campaign.’ Here again was a high official, using the credibility of the White House, to peddle wrongfully obtained confidential information."

Hard to believe, isn’t it? Is this the same Bob Novak that we know and love? Are there two Patrick Buchanans? Sad to say, there are more than two Pat Buchanans and Bob Novaks engaged in perception management today. And they are increasing the efforts to mislead the American public about the state of affairs in Iraq.

Will the democrats in Washington DC confront these lies?
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 07:06 AM
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1. Sadly, no
This is precisely what the Dems in DC are afraid of. Too bad they can't find the courage to confront the situation and deal with it for the good of the country. I fail to see how things could be worse than they already are.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 07:09 AM
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2. I want them to, but I'm not holding my breath. - n/t
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 07:14 AM
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3. I Think The Answer Is No
Until they hear a big, huge No, yelled across the country. Come fall the word we will hear over and over is Anbar. Success in Anbar Province they will crow. Therefore the surge is working, let's continue.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 07:32 AM
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4. There's only one Cronkite, Chancellor, Brinkley, Anderson in today's media...
...and that's Olbermann. The honest and ethical journalists of yesteryear are either dead, retired, or driven from the airwaves - replaced by the Blitzers, the Humes and the Coopers.

I've said many times before - the biggest foe to our Democracy is today's corporate media.

K&R.:thumbsup:
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 09:33 AM
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7. I agree. And everybody who posted here needs to check out this thread.
The OP was right on in what he said about the current corporate media...:-(

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1623694
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 07:37 AM
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5. the medias lack of curiosity for the truth flies in the face of democracy.
we may never get our balance back, after all, it was the media that exposed the nixon crimes....
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 09:21 AM
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6. Was/Is It Lack Or A Deliberate Act? n/t
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 09:47 AM
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8. Though we will not
get our balance back if we expect the corporate media to become a "free press," the internet is providing us with resources that the "underground press" in the 1960s and '70s couldn't. It's fun to think of what could have been, had there been an internet back in the good old days!
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 11:43 AM
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12. I agree about the Internet. btw, I am reading Gore's "Assault on Reason" and he
mentions the promise of the Internet in getting around the MSM baloney.

<sigh>
My reading list just keeps getting bigger and bigger.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 12:36 PM
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14. Great book!
I think it is one of the best I've read in some time.
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 10:05 AM
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9. I wish the reporters would all just walk out on Bush
He is just too much to take.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 02:09 PM
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15. I would be happy
if one in ten would call him on his lies.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 10:17 AM
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10. K&R n/t
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 11:22 AM
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11. Will the democrats in Washington DC confront these lies? NO!
:puke:
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 04:17 PM
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16. Probably not
on their own.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 12:33 PM
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13. Be the media.
That's our hope.

I think the power of progressives on the internet is a lot stronger than it was four or five years ago. Then, the curious among us were able to know from the get-go that the war was a lie. We were able to get out and march in the streets across the world numbering in the millions before the war, but now we actually have an impact on vetting the news and calling out the failings of the media in a way we didn't then.

It might not seem like much, but it does have an impact, and it is growing.
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 06:35 PM
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17. Yes,, bleever, I think you are correct. That is what I have told people.
I send stuff to people in my address book all the time. If they don't want to read it, they can tell me not to send it anymore.

We have to educate people, just as H20man, Octafish, bobthedrummer, lukery, et al, have educated us.

(That was not meant to be a complete list -- I know there are others who post with regularity on the truth, and I am grateful to them as well.)
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 06:38 PM
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18. A number of times
I have used the example of the Irish "hedge schools" to describe what DU is, when used properly. We are all students, we are all teachers. It is my pleasure to be part of this classroom.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 06:39 PM
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19. Some will and they will be marginalized
by the media and some in both parties.
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 06:56 PM
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20. The Democratic Leadership is Complicit. We are fools if we don't admit that.
Something that is going down and about to unfold much further, Soon, is A-OK to our leadership.

Whether they believe that we must contol the mideast oil (most likely)

or some other reason

The Media and our own leadership is in this up to their eyeballs

Beware the Ides of September

Troops are being deployed to DC as we speak
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 07:46 PM
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21. I hate this and I agree. n/t
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 08:19 PM
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22. K&R n/t
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 09:14 AM
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23. "Will the Democrats"
in Washington D.C. confront......fill in the blank with just about anything, and the answer will still be no........I don't understand, I just don't. Are they terminally spineless? Have they been physically threatened? (I certainly don't put this past the Bush Junta). Are they just that utterly removed from reality inside their beltway cocoon? I, and many of you, have been wracking my (our) brains trying to come up with the answer to "why" do the Dems just roll over and let these bastards do whatever they want.
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