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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 01:04 PM
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Poll question: If Dems began Impeachment proceedings against Bush would they lose control of the congress?
That is the reason why many democrats in house and senate are not moving on impeachment proceedings is because they feel that the country would be upset by the congress spending months and months on impeachment and ignorning other problems. Do they have a valid point? They point to the GOP losing 10 house seats in '98 for the Clinton impeachment (but they didn't lose control of either the house or senate).

Sorry, polls are turned off at Level 3.

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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 01:06 PM
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1. Congress Was Never Punished for Doing the Right Thing
and impeaching Clinotn wasn't right. Not impeaching everyone in the Bush regime isn't right, either!
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 02:53 PM
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10. Therefore, continuing that chain of logic,
not pursuing impeachment is what congress will be punished for.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 12:02 AM
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16. My Point Precisely
And it's already happening.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 01:15 PM
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2. Certainly Chimpy presides over the most impeachment-worthy . . .
Administration in US history.

Dem pols are just not very bold. And we're going to pay for that lack of boldness at the polls, because the 'Licans will successfully paint dems as weenies. Hell, Bush got elected (or more precisely, picked up a lot of votes) just because he was seen as decisive and resolute in the face of negative opinions. Pure bullshit, of course, but he did manage to sell it.

However, the concern about a negative public reaction to a Congress that spends its time punishing Bush rather than trying to repair the damage he's done -- especially with less than 2 years to go -- is legitimate.

I think they needed to start proceedings right after the "100 hours" PR press was over. It's too late now.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 01:15 PM
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3. For the first time in 26 years, I'm thinking about NOT voting next year..
Right now, the only person I would vote for would be Dennis Kucinich. I've seen people say here a million times that they won't vote for someone who voted for the IWR..... I won't vote for anyone who does not support and advocate impeachment of these criminals. I feel, in my opinion, that failure to impeach is 100 times worse than voting for the war..

But that's just me...
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 01:23 PM
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4. We would win in a landslide.
President Pelosi would win her first full term in a landslide too.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 01:28 PM
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5. Remember the Alamo? Remember Goliad? the Easter Uprising?
The DCdems deny that galvanizing loss is sometimes more important than a victory.

And that victory, like Mai Lai and Sherman's March sometimes bring everlasting criticism and shame.

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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 01:39 PM
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6. If there is no conviction, then yes
An impeachment without a conviction would be disastrous.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 01:54 PM
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8. Hmmmm.. Clinton wasn't convicted and yet the Republicans did very well. eom
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 02:12 PM
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9. Not really, they didn't do that well in the 1998 midterm
I fail to see how the Republicans did very well.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 02:55 PM
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11. Not as disastrous as not making the attempt.
Edited on Tue Aug-21-07 02:57 PM by NCevilDUer
Just look at the ratings of congress just after the election, and now, after six months of NOT impeaching.

They are cutting their own throats.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 03:03 PM
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15. No it wouldn't. Not unless our people ran from it.
NGU.


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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 01:53 PM
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7. 1998 wasn't the first time that Congress brought up impeachment charges
It's usually a political winner to do so.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 02:55 PM
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12. I'd Say Almost Undoubtedly Yes.
Maybe not both houses, but the risks would be great for it to occur.

We don't need to lose seats, we need to gain more seats. Regardless of what the well meaning but misguided poll respondents who voted 'gain seats' think, starting impeachment proceedings would do far more to hurt our political chances in 08 then it would to help them.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 02:57 PM
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13. It's hard to say, but it's possible they would gain seats
That said, if they were humiliated and failed to actually succeed in impeachment, it could have a negative effect.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 03:01 PM
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14. We win by listening to our base. Read Lakoff's latest...
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