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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:26 AM
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What the hell? Has JoeforClark been glassed?
Please tell me no.

For I cannot find him, anywhere.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:27 AM
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1. he's on a week suspension (I think)
Last I heard.

FWIW, he needs help, and I hope he gets it in the week he's off from DU. Nothing personal against him, it's just very hard to keep reading his posts when he's so clearly in need of professional (non-DU) help.


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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:30 AM
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2. What she said.
:thumbsup:
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:32 AM
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6. You (may) have no idea.
Joe is into this up to his neck.

Do you (or anyone else here) know about Troy?

No one here has no equal to Joe's investment.

I am going to get with the Mods on this one.

Tom
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:35 AM
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7. ?
Troy? As in the greek myth?

There are a lot of people on DU who are in his shoes or worse. That doesn't mean that DU should become their only source of both outlet and aid...it's not healthy.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:42 AM
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13. Is your kid fighting?
Just wondering.

Joe's is.

Bad deal.

He doesn't share that, here.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:46 AM
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15. Yes he does.
He shared it many posts. Everyone knows that. It's no big secret.

And I feel badly for him, for the stress that he must be under.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:51 AM
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23. Shit, I missed it.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:35 AM
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8. And that's why they've given him FAR more leeway than they've ever given...
any other DUer, maybe except for Will Pitt.

I have much sympathy for Joe's predicament. But he asked for his suspension. He literally begged to be banned.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 01:22 AM
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30. I must have missed it.
But we need those voices, howling from the Dark Places.

Can't give it up (writing like Joe).

And I may go for one (ban), as well (talking like Joe).
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:30 AM
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3. I think that he's on a Week's Forced Hiatus........
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:32 AM
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4. Yeah. The last time someone did that, Skinner quickly obliged.
Walt Starr, for those who remember.

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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:35 AM
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9. Well, that's fucked.
Anyone else here have a kid in the ME?

I didn't think so.

Joe is into it up to his clavicles.

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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:36 AM
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10. Actually, many DUers have.
Edited on Fri Aug-17-07 12:37 AM by Maddy McCall
Look up Binka sometime. Her son was injured in Iraq.

And another DUer's brother was killed in Iraq.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:43 AM
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14. Also, The1onein, whose nephew was killed in Iraq.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:46 AM
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16. Yes.
And I'm sure that there are others who don't talk about it.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 02:16 AM
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38. Here ya go...
Turn 'em up...

but just a bit.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=IrPB8TPgs9U
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:48 AM
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19. I know that, Maddy...
but this shit has fucked with Joe, big-time.

I have often spoken with Joe and Troy, being who I am.

And it is a sad deal.

You just have to appreciate where Joe comes from.

And you should read his book about his Dad.

Joe is special. Just a little different.

Trust me on this.

Tom

PS
The next time you say "Fuck you", you better mean it (this is not a sex thread).
T

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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:49 AM
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21. I think w8lftgldy (not sure that's right) has a kid in for several rotations ....
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 01:03 AM
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28. I can't imagine having a child in the ME right now....
My brother bounces between Afghanistan and Iraq. he returns to the ME next month for his 4th (and hopefully final) deployment since 9/11.

I love my brother but as a mother, I know it has to be different for the parents of soldiers. Your love for your child can't be compared to any other relationship, no matter how special.

Having said that, when my brother is in the ME, I don't sleep as well at night. The muscles in my neck are always tense and, depending on what country he's in, the words "Iraq" or "Afghanistan" make me instantly alert to hear whatever is being said. I'm constantly glued to the news of war and devastation. I never fully relax until I know he's back home. I find myself sleeping for 12 hours at a time when he gets back...probably due to sleep deprivation.

I don't know how parents of soldiers in war breathe. I don't know how they think about anything other than their child in danger. Do they think about anything else? I don't know. How do you function effectively? Do you turn on the air conditioner and feel guilty? Do you hear a car backfire and instantly start sobbing? I know I would if it were my child sleeping in the hot, dangerous sand at night.

May Joe find peace. May his child come back to him unharmed.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:40 AM
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12. That was it? This place is turning into everything that it despises.
Fuck the 1st Ammendment.

Fuck Joe.

Fuck Me.

And fuck Us.

And I am pissed off.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:47 AM
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17. Try To Relax
You're one of the people who has my back here...
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:50 AM
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22. Yeah, I gotcha...
Edited on Fri Aug-17-07 12:50 AM by TomInTib
For I am loyal.

And I am true.

And I do not bend.

And I do not give in.

Tom
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 01:54 AM
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35. Don't forget modest
:eyes:
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 02:07 AM
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36. Modest? Me?
You must be kidding.

For I am nothing if not over the top.

Check out my new thing:

www.tiburonartfestival.com

And the music is gonna kick butt.

Tom
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:47 AM
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18. No, that wasn't "it". That was one of MANY threads Joe
initiated, calling the mods out, asking to be banned.

The threads made little sense, and I think he's getting a well-deserved rest.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:49 AM
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20. I Think The Mods Are Pretty Lenient
I think I have gotten two messages in five or so years...

But they locked my "Magic Underwear" thread but they might have saved me from myself...
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:51 AM
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24. Why? He had multiple threads asking to be banned & instead they gave him a time out.
You're pissed off that he got a time out rather than the banning he was repeatedly asking for?
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 01:00 AM
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27. You said it!
The agitators have really disgusted me by their treatment of Joe for Clark.

I always look forward to his posts.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:32 AM
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5. He's back on the 20th
This account has been temporarily suspended by the Administrators for the following reason(s):

Has made it clear that he needs a break from Democratic Underground.

This member has been suspended for 7 days. The suspension began at 10:02 PM, Monday August 13th and ends at 10:02 PM, Monday August 20th.

While this member is suspended, they are not able to post, vote in polls, recommend threads, send alerts, or send private messages.

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Members may be suspended again if they do not improve their behavior following a previous suspension.

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Username: Joe for Clark
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:38 AM
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11. I Once Got Suspended For Skipping School
Isn't that stupid?

That's like punishing a bank robber by giving him money...

If it wasn't for reefer I would have never graduated high school...
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 01:28 AM
Response to Reply #11
31. You graduated?
Well, you are ahead of me.

Tom
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 03:38 AM
Response to Reply #31
40. I got an honorary diploma
It's a long story - I don't want to talk about it.

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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:56 AM
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25. Be Here Now and others had lunch this week and Joe for Clark was there.
It happened the day after the suspension.


Posted here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 01:16 AM
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29. Thanks - that is good news.
Joe is a good guy.
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 01:34 AM
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34. Your welcome...
Edited on Fri Aug-17-07 01:36 AM by btmlndfrmr
I agree he is a good guy.





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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:58 AM
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26. It'll be okay, Tom.
Sometimes we need to take a break.

Joe knows we love him and are on his side.

It'll be all right.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 01:29 AM
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32. I welcome his return
This site has many people suffering from acute pain due to the disastrous Bush rule, and ignoring of the Constitution. He was one, and perhaps needed a time out in order to express himself.

I will freely admit that whatever post led to his being banned wasn't one I saw, I've seen many of his other posts, though, and look forward to his return.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 02:10 AM
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37. he has been suspended
Joe was not doing well the night before last. I hope that he is alright and comes back
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 03:02 AM
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39. Let's all pray that his son and all those sons and daughters come home soon
Peace.
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 06:23 AM
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41. I pm'd
Joe a couple of times, with my concerns for his mental health and safety. He obviously is in dire need of help and I worry about him. He answered my last pm with a request not to contact him anymore, which I won't; however, my thoughts and prayers are with him.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 06:26 AM
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42. He's been suspended:
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 07:43 AM
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43. locking
Questions or concerns should go to administration.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/contact.html
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