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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 03:23 AM
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"Why should the Yazidis be given rights? They don't believe in God."
The Yazidis are the ancient Kurdish-speaking sect that suffered 500 deaths yesterday in the bombings in Iraq. What have we wrought?

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15 April 04 - Most of Iraq's myriad ethnic and religious communities have wrestled with questions of identity in the tumultuous year that has followed the fall of Saddam. But for members of the Yazidis a pre-Islamic faith professed by a minority of Kurds - the stakes may be higher than for most.

For the Yazidis, the choice between identifying themselves with the Kurds or seeking special status, is a particularly urgent one....

"Why should the Yazidis be given rights?" asked one cigarette vendor, eyeing the demonstration outside the Governing Council in Baghdad. "They don't believe in God."

http://www.iwpr.net/?p=icr&s=f&o=167983&apc_state=henii...
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 03:25 AM
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1. You'd think the fact that Christians are being driven out of the country--
--would be of some concern to the "Christian" perpetrators of this war.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 03:31 AM
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3. They aren't the right kind of Christian perhaps?
Edited on Thu Aug-16-07 03:32 AM by undergroundpanther
Too Gnostic? Fundies of monotheist religion HATE and fear Gnostic's you know.Because their god is the archon.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 03:33 AM
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4. Or because their tradition is much older than the fundie whackjob heresies? n/t
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 03:40 AM
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6. Yeah that too
Edited on Thu Aug-16-07 03:43 AM by undergroundpanther
And their view of spirituality is deeper,not as rigid,limited and controlling of ones spiritual seeking and non believers lives like the fundies.Yazidis are pretty cool if you ask me and the concept of Melek Taus is just beautiful.In my other post below notice the circle cross Melek is standing on..that is a symbol of gnosis and the Earth.To me it symbolically looks like the world awakening to gnosis with the help of the Peacock Angel .
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 05:29 AM
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9. The only Gnostics I know of in Iraq are the Mandeans,
but I'm not sure if they call themselves Christians or not. I think (but I'm not sure) that they have been called "St. John's Christians" by others because of their reverence for John the Baptist. This is all half-assed from memory...it's been too long since I read this stuff! But I often wonder about the Mandeans and how (or if) they are surviving all the carnage. About the only thing I know about them for sure is that they are an ancient indigenous Gnostic sect.
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pschoeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 03:36 AM
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5. The Yazidis aren't Christian, their religion is quite complex
as are it's origins, but they do not follow or worship Jesus in any sense, and are not Christians in any way. So my guess is the Administration doesn't care at all, as all they care about are certain Christians.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 04:42 AM
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7. Guess I should have said Christians ALSO being driven out of Iraq
--which is true as well. They used to run the liquor stores and worship freely. My first post was ambiguous--sorry, my bad.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 03:29 AM
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2. Melek Taus
Edited on Thu Aug-16-07 03:41 AM by undergroundpanther
Be kind!!!Protect the Yazidi/Kurds!



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yazidi
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 04:54 AM
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8. Yes, well. Not all Kurds are Yazhidis.
I met one Kurd once. As a result, I am fond of Kurds and wish them well. However, I am not sure about Yazhidis. They rank with the Taliban for me right now.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 07:31 AM
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12. Good point
Dua Khalil Aswad
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Du'a Khalil Aswad (c. 1989 or 1990 c. April 7, 2007) was a 17 year old Iraqi Kurd of the Yazidi faith who was stoned to death in an honor killing.<1> It is believed that she was killed around April 7, 2007, but the incident did not come to light until video of the stoning, apparently recorded on a mobile phone, appeared on the Internet.<2>

Motive

Some reports say she was murdered by Iraqi Kurdish men who were also Yazidis, some of them her relatives, for having converted to Islam to marry an Iraqi Sunni Muslim boy.<1><3> Whether the Sunni Muslim boy in question was also an Iraqi Kurd or an Iraqi Arab has not been established.

It is disputed whether or not she actually converted to Islam; some reports say the Sunni boyfriend has denied that she had.<1> Other sources instead indicate that Dua Khalil Aswad was killed in punishment for being absent from her home one night.<4>

More:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Du%E2%80%99a_Khalil_Aswad
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NavyDavy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 07:32 AM
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13. how are they like the Taliban?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 12:35 PM
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15. See above.
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 05:39 AM
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10. Boy does that sentiment ever sound familiar
Whether it's hate crimes, seperation church and state, gay marriage, insert issue here, some believe that they get the rights cuz they gots god and the rest of the world can just go hang.

Hannity is prolly already in love with the cigarette vendor. (I know, eeeeeeewwww lol)


:hi: :pals:
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 07:31 AM
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11. "I don't think atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots."
G H W Bush
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B3Nut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 08:17 AM
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14. Contrast that with the saying of a *REAL* American
"It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." - Thomas Jefferson

Todd in Cheesecurdistan
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