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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 05:15 PM
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Why Right Wing Comedians (Dennis Miller) & "Comedy Shows" Always Fail
DU's very own Grebrook has posted the inevitable news that Fox Television's attempt to position a right-wing version of Comedy Central's John Stewart and Steven Colbert has been canceled. Of course, the so-called "conservative comedian" Dennis Miller also saw his television show go down in flames even after the producers were reportedly paying members of the audience for even showing up to his unpopular live tapings. Why is this?

Question: Don't right-wingers have a sense of humor? Don't they laugh, too?

Answer: Of course, they do...they can laugh their asses off with the greatest of ease.

But the type of humor that right-wing neanderthals, mostly middle aged white christian males, enjoy can not be broadcast on the radio or television because their favored play-list is always filled with the crudest of racist jokes, misogynistic vulgarities, homophobic put-downs and xenophobic cracks. Naturally, it all reveals how socially insecure they are and how developmentally challenged they are as grown-ups, but that's the foundation for their preferred humor.

How can a conservative comedian or comedy format score with its bigoted audience without using the "n" word whenever they talk about African-Americans, the "q" and "f" words when referencing homosexuals, the "b" and "c" words when putting down women? They can't. Of course, if they could use those words on television, then Fox's "comedy" show would be a smash hit and Dennis Miller's show would still be on once the monkey of restraint was removed from his back. The ugly slur is the comedic trigger that their pent-up audience requires for comedic nervous release.

So it's no wonder that conservative comedy doesn't play on television or radio: they can't deliver the punchline that their ignorant audience is so aching to hear delivered.

"Did you hear about the n. q. c. from Mexico?" Why, just the question sets them off giggling among themselves in their delusion of supposed superiority. Sometimes I wish there wasn't censorship so we could laugh at them laughing.

And so, Fox's cancellation of their "comedy" show is no surprise. Meanwhile, Dennis Miller is now performing in small time banquet rooms in Howard Johnson's around the country. If he could only tell an n' joke or a q' joke or...

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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 05:18 PM
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1. I would've just said it's because they're not funny.... n/t
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 05:25 PM
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5. That's exactly what I was going to say!
Dennis Miller doesn't make me laugh. He makes me want to reach for Tums.
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R_M Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 05:19 PM
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2. There is nothing funny about establishment types.
You know, the traditionalists who like to keep the status quo.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 05:21 PM
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3. mean-spirited people are incapable of levity (nt)
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 05:22 PM
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4. Republicans are top down--they only make fun of people who are "lower" on society's ladder
while "bottom-up" Democrats like to poke fun at people with more power than them. This makes for good social satire.

Republicans sense of humor revolves around racism, sexism, and making fun of the poor and handicapped.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 05:32 PM
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10. Right wing comedians lack the humanity that is needed in
humor. You have to feel that the humorist has a his own weaknesses and pain. Andrew Dice Clay ultimately failed because there was no visible love of his fellow man. Even Don Rickles, the king of the insult, allows some of his humanity to come through.

If the humorist is unlikable, he will not get the audience behind him or her.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 12:33 AM
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31. I was going to mention Andrew Dice Clay
He seems to be the type they would like. But his "humour" sure got old fast, didn't it?
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:42 AM
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35. He never let us see the vulnerable human side. We have to
identify with the comedian.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 04:14 PM
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40. And he would have to have a vulnerable human side.
lol
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 04:37 PM
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43. Is his goal to entertain or to vent his biases?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 04:39 PM
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44. His goal is to get paid.
:shrug:
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 05:03 PM
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46. Like rush and O'Reilly
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 04:14 PM
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39. Exactly! It's funny to mock someone who is higher up on the foodchain --
mocking those beneath is just mean-spirited and very unfunny.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 05:28 PM
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6. Doesn't Dennis Miller have a radio show? Has anyone heard it?
eom
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coco77 Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 04:12 PM
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38. Yes, He usually has some comedian on...
and or rightwing actor to who usually spout the party line, or he has on a rightwing pundit who loves to say islamofascist. If someone confronts him he usually says he doesn't have anything to say until they hang up and then then he begins to say no matter what america should blow them up...
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 05:28 PM
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7. Real adult humour is about learning stuff about yourself and dealing with
underlying truths. Why the conservatives and the neocons can never succeed.

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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 05:30 PM
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8. Well said.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 05:32 PM
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13. Real humor is "truth", only FASTER.
That's why they can't master it. Their worldview denies TRUTH,
so true humor is forever beyond their grasp.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 05:30 PM
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9. I think it goes a little deeper than that. But not much...these are bushbots
A lot of comics of all races and genders can do vulgar and it's very funny. For the RW comics, I think it's persona-related and Miller is the perfect example. He's quite simply a pretentious ass, pandering to an audience he is trying to be smarter than by tossing out obscure references. Any and all right-wing comics come off the same, superficial and pandering.
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bluedeminredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 05:32 PM
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11. I'm sure they would have been rolling on the ground
outside the gas chambers at Auchwitz pointing and slapping their knees at the "losers" shuffling off to their deaths.
I have several wingers in my family and remember vividly a joke my B-I-L made about JFK, jr's death. He nearly wet himself laughing at himself and my sister practically had to pry my hands off his fat, disgusting neck.

BTW, nice to see you...
:hi:
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 05:54 PM
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26. Yeah, I forgot the "jew jokes".
You know, Robin Williams can have fun with gays, blacks, latinos, women, jews and it never is mean. In many ways, he celebrates our distinctions and, of course, everyone knows whose side he is on. And...he always makes fun of himself the most.

And it's great to see you, too! Your love child (shhh) with Al should already be in first grade in that parallel universe we are hopefully soon arriving to, bluedeminredstate.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 05:32 PM
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12. Topical humor is funny because it makes fun of mean people.
The right are the mean people, and they can't make fun of themselves, because the truth would hurt too much, so they can't be funny. They can do slapstick, but that's not very topical.
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New Era Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 05:33 PM
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14. They're funny when
they're trying to be serious. Have any of you watched WTFaux News with a nice bottle of whiskey? Sometimes it seems that some of those shows belong on comedy central. Although most of the time it just makes my skin boil with frustration at the irrationality of certain people.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 05:34 PM
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15. The Right have no sense of humor. Their only joy is Schadenfreude.
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 05:36 PM
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16. k&r
Unfortunately, I often see some of that same mentality here. Fortunately, if usually gets deleted or locked.
Lee
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 05:36 PM
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17. You can't do satire
On groups of people who have less power, rights, lower status quo, etc. than you do. It comes off as mean spirited, and there aren't enough people out there to laugh at, "The White House dog is Chelsea," type jokes to sustain a TV show.

The republican party/conservative movement is overwhelmingly white and male no matter how often they show the same 3 Black guys sitting in the crowd at their conventions. If they're going to use their humor to try and satirically attack people like Stewart/Colbert, they have to go after other races, women, homosexuals, the handicapped, children, etc. It just won't work.

TlalocW
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 05:38 PM
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18. Because Limbaugh, Coulter, O'Reilly, Hannity etc are hilarious...
Edited on Tue Aug-14-07 05:39 PM by edbermac
...when they're not trying to be. Who can stop laughing at their absolute idiocy that they regurgitate day after day.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 12:37 AM
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32. LImbaugh's humour is stuff I outgrew in grade 6
Lot's of pee-pee/poo-poo type of jokes. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink, "add-a-dick-to-me" type of stuff.

And he NEVER misses a chance to make a lame joke about women's breasts.

Just making up for all those times he got beat up in the school yard, I guess.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 05:40 PM
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19. Right wingers have zero sense of humor
To us, they are funny just being their usual selves.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 05:44 PM
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20. So I suppose your going to claim that Mallard Fillmore isn't hysterically funny?


You mean, these aren't funny?

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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 05:50 PM
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24. Steve_DeShazer, you just had to post it, didn't you?
Knee slapping!

Mallard Fillmore! Didn't the LA Times finally drop him, too? That guy has issues. You provided Exhibit A. Thanks for your post. :hi:
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 05:53 PM
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25. At least Prickly City is occasionally funny
I've never, ever read a Mallard Fillmore that didn't fill me with pity for anyone connected with the strip in any way.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 05:45 PM
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21. Yup - just not funny
Lt. Hauk: "I understand you're pretty funny as a dee jay, and well, comedy is a kind of hobby of mine.
Well... well, actually, it's a little more than just a hobby. Reader's Digest is considering publishing two of my jokes."

Cronauer: "Really?"

Lt. Hauk: "Yeah. And perhaps some night we could maybe get together and swap humorous stories... for fun."

Cronauer: "Oh, why not? And maybe play a couple of Tennessee Ernie Ford records. That'd be a hoot."

Lt. Hauk: "That's a joke, right?"

Cronauer: "Maybe."

Lt. Hauk: "I get it."

Cronauer: "Mm-hmm."
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 05:49 PM
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22. EXACTLY
These shows never last because only rednecks continue to think, as adults, that poopoo, nigger, queer, peepee, bitch, cunt, spic, wop, kike, faggot, lesbo, etc. are funny. Hopefully most of us NEVER say some of those words and the others, like the scatological words, most of us grow out of at about 5.
Lee
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 05:50 PM
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23. The problem is, there's nothing ironic about liberalism.
Edited on Tue Aug-14-07 05:54 PM by Gregorian
But those criminals and hypocrites are a total riot.

As an example of how hilarious it is to make fun of conservatives, this thread made me laugh so hard I almost hurt myself.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 06:17 PM
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27. They don't get irony
and are incapable of laughing at themselves.
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 06:48 PM
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28. Agreed. After Checking Out a Few RW Sites, It's Clear That RW Humor is Decidedly Mean-spirited.
I'm not saying they can't be funny (I still maintain that Dennis Miller was the best Weekend Update guy there ever was), I'm just saying they tend to be one-note. I remember a few months back when a train hit a bunch of teenagers parked in a car across the tracks, and someone here posted a link to the Freeper's site because they were saying terrible, awful things. And it's true, they were. And that doesn't seem to be unique occurrence. Even from my college days, I remember the Young Republicans always had not just the lamest comebacks and slogans, but the meanest, as well. There's something about being self-righteous that robs you of your sense of humor. That's why so many religious people are humorless, too.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 12:25 AM
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29. You forgot the fart jokes. Heh, heh, heh. n/t
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 12:29 AM
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30. Right-wingers have no talent
Conservative and "art" are contradictory terms.
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 02:33 AM
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34. I thought all the RW comedians were in Congress ...
B'dum-tish
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 03:34 PM
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36. no sense of irony
You kind of need that if you want to do satire.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 03:37 PM
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37. A right-wing comedian is like an Amish electrician.
The two just don't go together.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 04:21 PM
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41. Comedy doesn't proceed from hatred.
Check out some of my local friends lefty stand up sites:

www.willdurst.com
www.johnnysteele.com
www.billsantiago.com
www.danstpaul.com
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 04:23 PM
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42. I will, thanks.
I've read Will Durst's stuff in The Progressive before -- funny guy.

:thumbsup:
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 04:46 PM
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45. Not just that: In order to be ironically funny, the truth must be on your side
I think deep down, most neocons know Bush is full of sh!t but it's all about the $$$ and, for the less well off repugs-- it's about racism/bigotry (which would be in line with your points).
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