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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 12:13 AM
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Just Curious...How many DUers have started meds since becoming a member of the community??
I am just wondering. I have been here for a few years now. Sometimes I just get so depressed. I feel so hopeless. Really, I can't count the times I have been so shocked by the events that have taken place in this country and abroad by the mob in DC.

The victories we have experienced, seem so short lived. Only to be followed by more assaults on our democracy.

OK...so Rove is going back to Texas. Hard to get excited about that on the heals of the new FISA legislation. I hate the turd as much as anyone but that wasn't even enough to arouse me after the last ass kicking.

I am on Effexor XR now. Been on everything else before this new try.

My own life is in just as much peril as our country's.

I. Don't. Feel. Good.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 12:15 AM
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1. ativan-I tried zoloft but couldn't....cum
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 12:16 AM
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2. I love ATIVAN
tis my drug of choice!!!!!!
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 12:22 AM
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10. ativan helps me maintain some normalcy
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 12:16 AM
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3. Just told my doc I won't take Effexor.
Hang in there, this place is as good for support as it is for doom. :)
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 12:22 AM
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9. So true. Love the DU mood swings like a roller coaster.
THIS is the GREATEST PLACE ON EARTH TO VENT!!!
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 12:30 AM
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13. rAmen!
This is my only real refuge, I live in red state hell.

DU is therapy.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 12:49 AM
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17. Same here but I'm seeing FAR fewer "W" stickers these days.
And noticeably more "Impeach" ones. It's a small comfort for the days that I open my paper to be confronted with the usual spate of bigoted, homophobic, RW spew in the OpEd page.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 01:08 AM
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20. It still sucks, though, doesn't it?
It's like some kind of insane sit-com that never ends. Jeez, talk about having to keep your thoughts to yourself...
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 01:46 AM
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30. It's so hard to do that, when the stupidity is so thick
But I continue to be heartened by the pockets of sanity that emerge. Tonight at my Dem district meeting there were two (former) Republicans who said they'd "had it" with the GOP. One of them changed his registration and the other one said he was strongly considering it. :woohoo:
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 01:57 AM
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36. Yes, me too.
I do get the occasional "you were right" comment and believe me, I'm thrilled with those little victories. If I've opened just one pair of eyes, it's worth it.

The "These people are NOT your friends. They do NOT care about you or your family and never did" argument speaks to lower income people more than grandiose speeches about the sanctity of the Constitution.

I pick my battles carefully now.
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 01:50 AM
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57. I told My Doctor, "Effexor Reminds me of Poorly Manufactured MethAmphetamine"
The stuff drove me right up a wall. Turns out I'm Bi-polar.

Of course, now, I legitimately need major pain management

I wear a Fentanyl transdermal patch and take 30 mg immediate release morphine every day.

For bi-polar I take Trileptal and it's a cadillac compared to lithium and such
Never even know i'm taking it and have no problems

i do take Remeron for depression, but it really doesn't help.

Ending the war and imprisoning the criminals is the only anti-depressant that would work at this stage
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 05:17 AM
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70. Yeah, at this point I'm willing to try almost anything,
but when I did the research on Effexor, I decided that was a road I shouldn't go down.

They'll have to find something less addictive and MUCH less expensive since I lost my job and insurance.

Thanks for the heads up.

I agree about the war and the criminals.

When I can listen to the news without tearing up because of all the damage that was done in my name that day, I'll be in a much better place.
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Colorado Progressive Donating Member (980 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 12:21 AM
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5. went on zoloft about a month into this admin. wish I was joking
:grouphug:
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:40 PM
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84. I went on Prozac around the beginning of the second term.
We've just got to try to hang in there. I was on Paxil before but went off in '02 because it wasn't working for me.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 12:22 AM
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6. I actually stopped drinking and smoking when he took office.
I find that I'm healthier this way, even though it's less comfortable. I honestly don't think I could go back.


If you feel lousy, it might not be Bush. Now that I'm totally clean, I think I've discovered an underlying problem that was just being masked.

Sorry. I know this is the totally opposite of the kind of post you want here. But it's just another perspective. I'm not saying it's what you should do.
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Colorado Progressive Donating Member (980 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 12:24 AM
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11. No I'm curious. please explain
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 12:54 AM
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18. Good on you.My son bottomed out emotionally & then did what you did
In his case it was over his job and boss, and not politics, but he really was in bad shape for awhile.

He tried more than one kind of anti-depressant (the first one had terrible sexual side-effects), did some brief therapy, completely gave up alcohol, got into diet and exercise, got a new job where he's well-respected -- the life changes were literally a life-saver.

Sounds like you had a similar experience -- it's really hard to do all that. Congratulations.

Hekate

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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 01:00 AM
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19. It does not matter if I am intoxicated or not as far as the confusion goes
I keep on thinking maybe even everybody else is on something even, what is poor crazy person to do :crazy:
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 04:51 PM
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77. I quit anti-depressants shortly after I found DU.
I started taking them about a year before posting, here. I started that medication because I thought, maybe, my line of thought and info-gathering and conclusions were near an isolated thingy. In other words, I thought the 'truth' I saw was possibly, merely,...my anxiety driven imagination leading to profound sadness,...as a compassionate person.

When I found DU, I discovered the 'truth' I saw was not just my imagination, as aweful as it was/is, but a sight many others shared with me. I guess I needed to know there were other real-life people out there (other than writers)who shared my perspective.

I think I understand what you mean about discovering an underlying problem being masked. I thought all I needed was myself to get through life. I was wrong and still have to remind myself, from time to time, that I need more than just me to live, fully.
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:45 PM
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86. Your situation is not uncommon. About four years
into my sobriety I was found to be clinically depressed. I know of many others who drank and used to feel better because they were trying to remedy something.
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chefgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 12:22 AM
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7. Nothing fun, no
Just Atenolol for high blood pressure...which I blame on the Bush administration.

-chef-
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 12:22 AM
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8. Take from me, kid:
Keep taking the meds. The alternative is way too messy.

Keep seeing your doctor. Keep seeing your therapist. Have a friend you can really TALK to, without reservation. One that will listen and not tell you to "snap out of it". Oh, if it were all that easy, how beautiful life would be.

Don't be afraid to reach out and borrow the strength of someone else. That's not weak, that's smart.

Exercise. It works.

Sleep at night. Naps when you need them.

Don't drink alcohol or do cheesy comestibles. Ain't nothing there you want or need. Just makes things worse. Really.

Get the feeling I know what I am talking about? Lemme tell you, I got hashmarks all up my arm. ;-)
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LeighAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 12:25 AM
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12. What are "cheesy comestibles"
Whatever that is, I hadn't considered doing it until you mentioned it :P
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 12:33 AM
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14. That's how...
Frank Zappa used to refer to drugs. For all the weirdness, Zappa was a real straight arrow guy.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 03:23 AM
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40. He must've stolen it
from Monty Python.


"Well, I was sitting in the public library on Thurmon Street just now, skimming through 'Rogue Herrys' by Hugh Walpole, and I suddenly came over all peckish."

"Peckish, sir?"

"Esuriant."

"Eh?"

"Ee, ah, wor 'ungry-loike!"

"Ah, hungry!"

"In a nutshell. And I thought to myself, 'A little fermented curd will do the trick.' So, I curtailed my Walpoling activities, sallied forth, and infiltrated your place of purveyance to negotiate the vending of some cheesy comestibles."

"Come again?"

"I want to buy some cheese."

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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 01:41 AM
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28. Yeah Tand
Naps...I love to sleep
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 01:53 AM
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33. They recharge you. They are therapeutic.
Stress wears you down, hard.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 12:39 AM
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15. ok-all jokes aside-
sexual side-effects are the price you pay with zoloft,you can masturbate until you have a callous-no orgasm.Whatever,I'm a nurse-I don't mind talking about these things
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 01:18 AM
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23. Wow good to know
Although I don't want to know how you know that.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 01:52 AM
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32. not all antidepressants do that=ask your doc-they expect the ?
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 01:53 AM
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35. I'm not on any and do everything I can to avoid being perscribed them
Was a ritalin kid and avoid any behavior-altering drugs like the plague, I go for things like working out to keep me regular.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 02:58 AM
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65. lexapro does the same thing, friends say...
many ADs have some very surprising side effects. ME? I got my thyroid checked and fixed. That was the problem.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 12:45 AM
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16. Other bad things were happening.Fear of losing my country just made it so much worse.
You really have to ask yourself what ELSE is going on in your life.

In my case, my mother's demise was truly awful -- I mean, how many ways can a woman go completely and unpleasantly batshit, beating off her loved ones with a stick? (you do understand the stick part is metaphorical) Getting on Wellbutrin two years ago helped me a LOT. I wish SHE would have taken drugs. I wish she would have gotten into THERAPY, too, but at least I did.

The situation with my country was and is horrible, but now that I've burned out and calmed down -- and my mother is finally at rest in the earth as of last November -- I wonder if I would have handled the Bush-Cheney-Rove situation with less overwhelming fear, anxiety, and depression if my family situation had been less stressful.

A good anti-depressant can help turn the tide, but talk-therapy can be absolutely essential to getting a handle on your inner life as well.

Best of luck to you all.

Hekate

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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 01:39 AM
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27. thanks nt
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 01:15 AM
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21. Lots of people have suggested good things in this thread...
First would be to determine whether your depression is "situational" or chemical; it makes a difference in treatment.

EXERCISE: the last thing a depressed person usually wants to do, but it also increases the endorphins and helps lift that depressive "cloud"; the effects will vary in length from individual to individual, but they will grow in duration with time. Also remember: one of the common side-effects of anti-depressants is WEIGHT GAIN (my experience with Effexor demonstrated this) therefore, exercise is especially important.

DRINK HEALTHY AMOUNTS OF WATER: Keep your body flushed of the impurities we accumulate.

EAT HEALTHY: Try to avoid pre-processed foods; eat as many fresh fruits and vegetables as your budget allows.

DON'T CLOISTER YOURSELF FROM YOUR FRIENDS: It's hard to do, but it helps.

GET OUTSIDE: something else depressed people don't want to do, but is a great boon to health. Take walks, or just find a nice place to sit.

SEEK COUNSELING: If your situation allows, find a good counselor. It's a safe place to express your every thought and to get feedback to help you with the thinking patterns which come with depression.

One of the above posters made a point which cannot be over emphasized: STAY AWAY FROM ALL ALCOHOL OR ILLICIT DRUGS; yeah, sometimes these things can give you temporary relief but many alcoholics and drug addicts are actually self-medicating for such things as depression, and these things will create much worse problems.

IF THE ANTIDEPRESSANT YOU ARE ON DOESN"T DO THE TRICK (AFTER GIVING IT ENOUGH TIME TO WORK) ASK THE DOC TO TRY ANOTHER ONE:

I went through several over 25 years, including Effexor XR, and the one that works very well FOR ME is lexapro.

ABOVE ALL: NEVER, NEVER, EVER QUIT THE FIGHT!!! I went from an extremely clinically depressed individual, with concurrent severe OCD and severe anxiety disorder (lost my job for awhile, almost lost my family, almost took my own life) to a normally functioning person who feels good most of the time. IT TOOK TIME, BUT IF YOU DON"T QUIT IT WILL WORK!!!

If you can, check out the "Anxiety and Phobia Workbook". It is the best "self-help" book I have found.

Keep going brother, there IS light at the end of this tunnel even if you can't see it now.


:hi:
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 01:37 AM
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25. hey....
adsosletter!!!!

Thanks for the killer response.

I have done most of the things that you recommend. However, I have had a recent family tragedy, and coupled with my domestic problems, I had rendered myself hopeless.

I am feeling a little stronger now that the initial shock is over.

You are too kind. I have drug resistant mdd. Had it for years. But it does help when I can have regular therapy. I have denied myself that for a couple of months. I will get back when I handle my parents affairs.

Thank you so much.



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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 01:15 AM
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22. Sometimes, you have to feel a little better and a little supported
to take better care of yourself. You go, hang a left. :)
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 01:38 AM
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26. Your are so sweet sfp2...
thanks.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 01:53 AM
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34. I totally subscribe to the idea that we've been traumatized for the last
seven years, and I also have this wacky belief that if we hang together, we'll be okay.

Make me wrong. :)

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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 02:53 AM
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39. Right you are, m'dear
:hi:

Hekate

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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 01:29 AM
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24. k&r..n/t
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 01:44 AM
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29. depressed and hopeless over what?
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 01:48 AM
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31. Over you not posting more to the threads I start n/t
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 01:59 AM
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37. Wellbutrin, just last week, in fact
Today is Day 6.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 02:33 AM
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38. Watch out for Effexor!
Edited on Tue Aug-14-07 02:38 AM by quantessd
It's effective, but it is addictive!!! Wyeth, the maker of Effexor, wants people to get hooked.

I am in the process of kicking effexor. Quitting Effexor--even lowering the dose--is about as pleasant as quitting smoking.

I would advise you to not go higher than 75mg per day, ever.
If I could go back in time, I would never have raised my dosage to 150mg per day, even though I was terribly depressed at the time. When I was ready to cut back (as I expected I would do), it turned out to be a nightmare to go without my stupid daily pill! Going from 150mg to 75mg made me shaky and nervous for months. I drank alcohol to ease the nervous shudders that resulted from reducing the dose.

For a couple of years I maintained my 75mg dose, partly because I felt normal on this dosage, but mostly I got horrible withdrawals if I went more than a day without it.

Then in June, when I read that long term antidepressant use can cause weakened bones, I decided I need to gradually quit Effexor. So I went down to 37.5 mg per day, which is the smallest capsule available. (37.5 mg is what they started me on.) It took me over a month to completely stop feeling the withdrawals. I'm currently at 37.5mg per day.

I intend to someday quit effexor completely, but I don't know how soon I will be ready. I am no longer depressed, and I don't want to be taking a drug just to make me feel normal, but the withdrawal is so bad, I have to quit gradually.
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 03:43 AM
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41. Effexor has some of the worst side effect (brain-shivers, weight gain)
of all of them, and also some of the worst withdrawal symptoms. I chose to stop mine and promptly came down with the flu to add to the misery (ah well, might as well get all the misery out of the way at once).

Careful about the "I'm no longer depressed" thing. I seriously hope it's true but sometimes people quit taken their meds because the symptoms have abated (due to the meds) and most people would like not to have to take anti-depressants. So they stop. And sometimes the depression recurs. I have tried to stop 8 times in the last 25 years...seems to come back after a couple of months. That's just been my experience.

I don't blame you at all for wanting to get off the Effexor...

:hi:
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 04:31 AM
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43. "I don't blame you at all for wanting to get off the Effexor..."
Edited on Tue Aug-14-07 04:35 AM by quantessd
No actually, what I want is to stay on Effexor my whole life.
I just can't because I know it's not good for me.

I've taken Zoloft before, when I was diagnosed with Serious Depression at age 25. Quitting Zoloft was nothing. Didn't feel any withdrawals at all.

This fucking EffexorXR is 100x worse than cocaine to stop. And, EffexorXR does not get you high.
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 04:44 AM
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44. Well, I hear ya' about the health concerns...
...I think the stuff is directly responsible for some liver "issues" I am having which require me to get my blood tested every couple of months....

There are some new, cutting edge SSRIs out there...

I am also interested in some of the headway they are making in very targeted, low dose electro-shock therapy. There are very recent studies out that seem to be quite promising.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 04:55 AM
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45. You have got to be kidding me.
Edited on Tue Aug-14-07 05:04 AM by quantessd
"I am also interested in some of the headway they are making in very targeted, low dose electro-shock therapy. There are very recent studies out that seem to be quite promising."

What the fuck are you talking about? Look, I don't mean to be rude, but, at the time I got my college degree, electric shock therapy was a crude, rudimentary, barbaric thing of the past that resulted in brain damage.

I hope you reconsider! I'm sorry for being so blunt, but, people need to respect their bodies.
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 12:04 PM
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49. well...I'm not sure what your college degree has to do with anything...
...I have one myself, if that's the issue...apparently you haven't been following the new forms of ECT which pinpoint specific areas with greatly reduced shock levels...it's not the ECT of the past...That's "what the fuck I am talking about"..to put it in your oh-so-highly-educated terms...
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 01:37 AM
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54. You're right, I was sort of a jerk. I'm sorry for sounding pretentious and rude.
No, I am not aware of new ECT therapy techniques. Even if I were up to date on this new fangled ECT business, I wouldn't touch it with a 10' pole, so-to-speak.

I do have a tendency toward depression, and I do want to be supportive of other people who also have a tendency toward depression. I don't want to be insensitive, but I can't help but be skeptical.

No medical professional has ever tried to suggest ECT to me. And I was pretty damn seriously depressed, at one point, in early 2003.
Where do you get your information?
This just does not sound right.

Again, no offense intended. I have often been really harsh to fellow DUers, and sometimes I'm just mean. I usually feel bad about it later, (as in this case). I really should have chosen my words more carefully.
:)
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 02:51 AM
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64. No problem...I've been working on an MA thesis...
...and its been keeping me up late and getting me up early, and crabby to boot :hi:

I will try to find the info on the new ECT therapies/research...the research is much newer than 2003. I agree with you, in 2003 traditional ECT was recommended only in the most severe forms of depression which were non-responsive to drug regimens. They did actually provide some temporary relief, but at a cost.

From what I recall the new ECT techniques do not cause seizures, and are very highly focused on specific parts of the brain which seem to be most closely associated with depression in these studies...it isn't about focusing on any of the various re-uptake nodes.

I think it could be compared to the old style anti-depressants like Sinequan which functioned as a chemical sledgehammer (with the lack of functionality to accompany it) and the modern SSRIs which operate on the icepick principle (I take Lexapro and don't even know I'm on it until I try to stop for a couple of months...then the old "dark friend" returns...every time...)

As soon as I get the chance I will find you a link to the info...

No problems...

:D
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 03:18 AM
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66. Great! It sound interesting.
Sometimes I really lash out, and regret it later. Thanks for accepting my apology. :hi:
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:33 PM
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82. Anyone who ever wants to be forgiven for something...
...must be willing to forgive others. :hi:
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 12:06 PM
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50. Effexor makes people hostile. That explains DUs attitude.
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 03:23 PM
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53. no,no,no...that doesn't explain my attitude...
...I quit Effexor years ago... :rofl:
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 01:48 AM
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56. Sorry, xultar, if I somehow insulted you.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 06:31 AM
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71. No you didn't at all. I used to take Effexor and it made me want to fight and argue
non stop. Now I'm off it and I'm fine. I've talked to others who felt agressive on the drug.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 04:30 AM
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42. IMO, the people who aren't depressed aren't paying attention
Or they're too dumb to figure out what is going on (or much smarter than I am, since everything just confuses me).
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 05:13 AM
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46. I was on Effexor XR
Edited on Tue Aug-14-07 05:35 AM by JTFrog
for over two years. Went on them in 2004 after four years of Bush.

I almost died trying to quit them. I was out of the country longer than expected and couldn't get a refill. Three weeks of absolute hell. I quit them cold turkey and I can tell you now that I will never put myself in that position again. At first I thought they were ok, they gave a little burst of speed throughout the day, but I gained a ton of weight, I became dangerously forgetful and I certainly wasn't any happier or more productive. I was pretty much in a fog all the time.

Having been off of all meds for over a year now, I realize that it's ok to be pissed off at what is happening in this country. In fact, I SHOULD feel pissed off and depressed. It's turning into a really ugly place out there. BUT...realizing it and FEELING it gives me the opportunity to do something about it instead of taking a pill and suppressing it. I think they can be helpful if you use them for a couple months to get past the really can't pick yourself up moments, just be sure to ween slowly off of them for a week or two before quitting.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 01:58 AM
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60. did you get the electricity in your head when you ran out?
that is a very disturbing side effect
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 04:35 AM
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68. Yes, the zaps.
I was extremely disoriented for over a week. The only comfort I got was laying on the cold tiles of the bathroom floor. I wouldn't wish anything like this on my worst enemy.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 03:57 PM
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73. I was getting my stuff through mail order for a while, and sometimes it was late
it's hard to describe how distracting that was
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 02:49 AM
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63. Effexor is horrible to quit Cold Turkey.
These are the withdrawal symptoms that I've had to deal with:

"Brain shivers", which feels sort of like a short circuit, or an electric shock, in your head. There's no other way I can describe it.

Feeling frightful and tense.

Bad, horribly anxious, dreams. According to my boyfriend, I was twitching and yelping in my sleep. I remembered that it was a NIGHTMARE.
When I awoke, I told him what my NIGHTMARE was about: "Everyone was offended because I put a half eaten loaf of bread into a bag."
:shrug:

Mild confusion and short term memory problems.

Nausea.

What's Great about Lowering the Dose / Quitting :

I feel more like "myself" again.

I feel more motivated.

I'm more emotional (okay, when you're really sad, I understand that a drug is helpful to make you feel less emotional, but now that I'm not really, really sad anymore, why should I snuff out my emotions?)

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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 09:13 AM
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47. Not on any meds, but my 'low blood pressure' disappeared and now I'm borderline to having
'high blood pressure'. Seriously, my normal blood pressure throughout my first 50+ years ran low. It caused medical problems during the birth of my son and in two post-op situations. Now it's gone.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 09:20 AM
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48. Effexor is what worked for me, but I'm off of it now because I'm broke.
And I have no health insurance. It turned down the volume of my anxiety attacks to a manageable level, which I first noticed when I climbed onto a roof without freaking out (heights - bad). Unfortunately, it didn't save my marriage, and it may have actually hurt because it killed my sex drive.

Take care of yourself.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 12:07 PM
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51. ATTENTION: EFFEXOR side-effect is HOSTILITY...
That can explain DUs sink into the nasty.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 01:38 AM
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55. STFU, you ass.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 06:32 AM
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72. tee hee hee.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 12:13 PM
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52.  I have been on either Zanex or valium since 1987
All due to anxiety and panic attacks . However since the loss of jobs and not being able to find new work things have really gotten worse than ever , this on top of this admin and it's freakish dealings which affect just about everything one can think of just must have pushed me over the edge , plus the loss of my mother , who was my last contact to years gone by .

I have been put on Lexapro too but this really screws me up big time even though I went through their determined adjustment period .

I would rather not be on anything and just be able to function enough to get out of the apt and deal with what it left of my life which is very little . I don't like being under some drug corps control .
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 01:52 AM
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58. I stopped taking mine...
as if it weren't obvious. :crazy:
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 01:54 AM
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59. please take care of yourself
no, i have not tried any meds or wished to try any, i think some of this may be a genetic thing, if i was going that route then reagan would have pushed me over the edge WAY before now

but they do say that most people in the new orleans area now are on some kind of meds, not sure if i believe it, seems to me you can hardly find a doctor to begin with, but that's what they say
:shrug:

most of human history is wars and rumors of war, sometimes you either have to laugh or you cry

maybe try to browse the cartoons for a few days and look at the funny side of it? or skim bartcop, yes, silliness, but sometimes it pays off in mental health to get a little silly
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 02:10 AM
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61. I was on max dose and it didn't help sometimes
For a few years there, I thought, "these guys could haul us off and kill us and no one would stop them" or "Rush could tell these fuckheads to go Hutu on us and no one would stop them."

Then when Arnold got shoe-horned in here in California, he cut education so deeply that my tenuous existence as a community college instructor was in jeopardy. At one nearby school, they fired a third of their instructors.

When I went home one Christmas, a few hours before I was supposed get on the plane to come back to LA, I suddenly got a sharp pain in my stomach like somebody stabbed me. I felt so bad I couldn't go to the airport. I just laid in bed and cried, which is kind of bad since I was almost 40 at the time, I had to reschedule my flight, and I couldn't tell my family what I felt so bad about. I thought I was fucked, and if I did something useful to fix things, it could put my family in jeopardy--on maybe I already had.

Now I am still frustrated and wouldn't trust the democrats to keep us out of the ovens, but I know enough Americans and even those in the military and intel agencies have wised up that if the Bushies tried to cross certain lines they would lose control instantly like when the hardliners did the coup against Gorbachev then ordered the military to attack the demonstrators. The military refused and the coup was over. I think American soldiers have at least as much conscience as Russians.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 04:50 AM
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69. That's pretty fuckin' hilarious.
:eyes:

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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 03:59 PM
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75. which part, the stress or the hope?
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 04:34 PM
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76. Oh, I need to stop being so nasty. Seriously. I misread your post.
Edited on Wed Aug-15-07 04:37 PM by quantessd
Maybe xultar is right, Effexor makes people hostile. I've been very agitated since I've been trying to gradually quit the drug. Sorry! :blush:
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 07:17 PM
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79. that's what I take but it does't make me hostile just less conflict averse
It used to be if I had friction with someone and I ran into them somewhere like a computer room where I was working, I wouldn't be able to concentrate until they left or I did.

Now I don't care.

And when conflict is called for at work, I tend not to avoid it (at least not for emotional reasons).
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 02:27 AM
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62. I feel pretty grounded

But I am not depressed--just pissed.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 04:20 AM
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67. I was on them before I discovered DU
DU positively helps, not hurts, the depression issue.

Maybe it is because I am used to debating right wing nutcases. But to me DU is wonderful for showing me there are like minded people and I am not alone.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 03:58 PM
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74. Sometimes... in GD...
it seems liek there are more people who are off their meds.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 05:01 PM
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78. No condemnation at all but I think we gobble -way- too many pills.
I take probably 4 aspirin a week because I think it probably has some value but have not had a prescription since
1983 which was for antibiotics for a dog bite (my own dog and it was accidental)

The doc who gives me my annual flight physical sez I'm disgustingly healthy. (I think he samples his own samples)
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 07:24 PM
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80. Boycott Big Pharma!
Ew! Don't take their pills!
They use Fluoride in Pharmaceuticals and even Hitler used Fluoride to stupify the masses!

Just say NO to their Drugs!!!
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Mutineer Donating Member (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 07:30 PM
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81. Half the country is on meds,
the other half should be.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:40 PM
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83. I'll probably get preached at for this...
but I was on Prozac for awhile (right when Iraq started) and it helped. Now I self-medicate: back on cigarettes and taking Goji juice every day - and they're both helping quite a bit. still have some rotten days, but in a more human sort of way.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:43 PM
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85. Buspar
it's a pretty mild one.

My therapist is about to retire. I'll miss talking politics with her.

Actually, I started on them after my mom died.
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thegreatcause2 Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:52 PM
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87. I take Lamictal
I just couldn't get over my depression with anti-depressants, so now I take the drug Lamictal and I feel great. DU helps my depression because reading the thoughts of others, in this Bush-made hell on earth world we live in, makes me feel like I have the moral and intellectual support of a true blue group.
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