DUMB letters to the Plain Dealer, Part DCLXVI: "The Anti War Left just DOE'NT GIT IT!"

[HughBeaumont]

Anti-war left doesn't understand risks of defeat

http://www.cleveland.com/letters/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/opinion/118690753666450.xml&coll=2

It's the mother LODE of dumb. If dumb were bricks, this bunch is the Great Wall.

The usual. ALL white males. ALL Republicans; the most extreme, uncultured and delusional kind. ALL Bill'O talking points.

This is worth the comedy - the Plain Dealer devoted an entire section to the Bozo-rama. SO much stupid in one section. Here's a taste of what lies ahead:

"These letter writers need to know that their enemies are not President Bush, the conservatives, the Republicans, the "neocons" or those of us who defend the president and his fight against the 1 billion-plus fundamentalist Muslims determined to drag the rest of the world kicking and screaming into the seventh century. Wake up and smell the gunpowder, because one day soon, it will be in your neighborhood."

:rofl:

"Our military might, courage and efficiency in the Middle East are all that is stopping Islamic extremists from accomplishing their fatal goals here in the United States."

:rofl:

"Talk to the vets who have been to Iraq; the surge is working. Let us finish the job. "

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

"It wasn't always this way. His thoughts drift back to a time of horrible oppression when he lost uncles and cousins to the brutal regime of a ruler whose name never deserves mention again. As a convert to Christianity, he knows they smile from heaven at what has now become of their country. After a terrible, bloody transition and monumental human sacrifice where coalition troops, along with his own countrymen, finally brought lasting freedom, he and his granddaughter now rest in an Iraq that is a leader for peace and prosperity in the Middle East."

:rofl: :rofl:

This is the clincher -

Why do they want our troops to lose? Why do they degrade positive developments in, arguably, the most crucial war America has ever fought?

:wtf: :wow: :wtf: :wow: :wtf: :wow: :wtf: :wow: :wtf: :wow: :wtf: :wow: :wtf: :wow:

OH, so I guess those things in the early 1940s or the mid-1800s were just little skirmishes that didn't matter, huh? Dear GOD, get back in your crawlspace, idiot. You're just insulting my grandfather now.

What must it be LIKE to be a 26%er? What color is the SKY in these moran's worlds?

[OzarkDem]

1. I knew you would post this one

This guy is really drinking the kool-aid.

[Hepburn]

2. I grew up in Ohio...in the general area of Cleveland....(more Akron-Canton area really)...

...and now people can understand why I left....40 some years ago....and thereafter never regretted one day of my life NOT living in Ohio. IMO: Great place to be FROM.

[HughBeaumont]

17. My uncle moved to Florida in 1974, when he was in his 20s.

His words: "I've never even given a second thought about coming back. Sure, there's idiots, but at least there ain't 6 months of winter down here."

Maybe it's the weather that's got these chickenhawks all riled up.

[Kolesar]

32. The hot weather must be what makes them as nasty as fire ants

The sunsets over the ocean are beautiful in Florida, but that is about it.

The way I look at it is that it takes weather like this to keep "only the kind of people we want to be around" living here. You gotta be tough to live in Cleveland. The whiners can get on the highway and go somewhere else.

[Berry Cool]

18. Please don't insult all of Ohio or even Cleveland here.

I came back here to live and am not sorry I did. And please realize...Cuyahoga County is blue as blue can be. It's when you get to Lake County that you get into scary red territory. But even there, as with Texas, the place is not filled with ignoramuses like this.

In fact, last Sunday's whole PD letters section was full of sensible letters. I was shocked. Not a single pro-Bush freeptard in the bunch.

Too bad they appear to think they had to make up for it this week.

[rucky]

34. I see your Lake county and raise you a Miami county.

and as long as I don't discuss race, religion or politics, I get along great with my neighbors.

[Dogmudgeon]

3. Most of these neo-hawks are quite serious

They are like the anti-Communists of old: they think the Islamist (so-called) militancy is fanatically dedicated to the destruction and subjugation of the USA, and any "weakness" on our part will result in immediate defeat. This isn't the snickering-frat-boy entitlement conservatism making wisecracks on South Park, it's hard-ass paranoia. Fear writ large.

Most people, left and right alike, go no further than conspiracy theories to quell their paranoia, and eventually shake free of it. Rightist culture-warrior paranoiacs don't.

--p!

[Hepburn]

5. Well, I remember in the 1950s as a kid living in Ohio....

...some of my neighbors actually built underground bomb shelters cuz the commies were comin' to bomb us any day. Ummmm....that was well over 50 years ago. IMO, these nuts just switch enemies and salivate just like Pavlov's dogs. Ring the "enemy" bell with these RW nutcakes and they will do ANYTHING!

JMHO

[postulater]

26. I grew up in Wisconsin in the 50s

I remember nearly every night going to bed and watching out the windows for the Russian planes that were going to bomb us.

The nuns had us convinced that the Russians were coming in 1960. Then when that year ended without an attack, I wondered if they had actually meant THE 1960S. So I spent several more years scared to death at night thinking I wouldn't wake up in the morning.

Thanks a lot, Sister Mary. That's why I quit the Catholic Church. (Along with the priest we had who was a divorced guy and decided he wanted a free ride and free boys so he became a priest).

[beberocks]

6. But you notice they are not serious enough to join the military

Otherwise we would have enough troops. And these nuts don't want their kids to serve of course (just look at Romney's kids).

[marions ghost]

7. Agreed--these rabid hawks are still as paranoid as ever....

My latest encounter with them was in Pennsylvania. But they can be found in every state.

[proud2BlibKansan]

4. "1 billion-plus fundamentalist Muslims"

:wtf:

[The Magistrate]

8. Something Of An Exaggeration Indeed, Ma'am....

[NMMNG]

16. There are only about 1.5 billion Muslims in the entire world

What are the chances that 1 billion+ of them are fundamentalists? (And it's impossible that they're all living in Iraq, which only has a population of around 27 million something.)

These people are fried in the brain.

[unhappycamper]

9. I'm having a hard time picking out my favorite.

Positive news on the war in Iraq sure brought the frothing Bush- haters out of the woodwork. I'm certain that by now, all of their letters are hanging in the al-Qaida Hall of Fame. I wonder how many more American troops and allies will be killed because of their terrorism-emboldening letters. I find their irresponsible, ignorant and anti-American rhetoric disgusting.

In attempting to set the agenda, the anti-Iraq-war contingent already is painting Gen. David Petraeus as a dishonest, dishonorable, disreputable man - before he has even given his progress report. These leftists continue to demoralize our troops with their destructive bashing of America, our military leader in Iraq and our president.

Why do they want our troops to lose? Why do they degrade positive developments in, arguably, the most crucial war America has ever fought? The thought of losing, at the very least, should be hateful to real Americans. But these people seem to want to wear it like a badge.

---

I want to share a vision that I believe some of last Sunday's letter writers will one day appreciate. I envision an old Iraqi man sitting at an outdoor bazaar with his 6-year-old granddaughter, who is coloring pictures for her mommy who is working as a civil rights attorney in downtown Baghdad. Her father travels throughout the country as a building engineer. The grandfather's weathered face will gently smile as she asks if he wants her to draw a picture for him. He nods yes as he reflects upon all the hustle and bustle around them.

It wasn't always this way. His thoughts drift back to a time of horrible oppression when he lost uncles and cousins to the brutal regime of a ruler whose name never deserves mention again. As a convert to Christianity, he knows they smile from heaven at what has now become of their country. After a terrible, bloody transition and monumental human sacrifice where coalition troops, along with his own countrymen, finally brought lasting freedom, he and his granddaughter now rest in an Iraq that is a leader for peace and prosperity in the Middle East.

After a couple of taps on his arm to get his attention, his granddaughter hands him the picture she made for him, fully confident that he will like it. As he looks at a colored picture of an American flag, he will smile and thank her, but not without saying, "God bless America."




uhc note: I think I'll vote for #2 - it has good snopes.com potential.

[JohnnyRingo]

10. Deja Vu

Always refering to those 70% Americans who want an end to the war as "far left", "Commies", or "fringe elements".

Even though warhawks are loud (via media amplicication), they're always the minority.
Same shit, new war.

[Lincolnian]

21. Don't you just get

sick and tired of hearing it, reading it?

If you are anti-war you are anti-American.
If you are anti-war you are un-patriotic.

Bullshi..!!!

[MLFerrell]

27. It's OK, you're allowed to say BULLSHIT here!

Welcome to DU!

:hi:

[Lincolnian]

30. The problem is

my fingers won't allow me to type cuss words in full.

Thanks for the welcome, I think I'm going to be happy here.
Seems great minds think alike.

[liberalmuse]

11. They all need to be sent to Iraq.

I don't care how old they are. If they are so 'for' this war, then they need to donate their bodies to the cause. Drop 'em from a plane right into the middle of the conflict. They won't even encourage their kids to sign up. It's odd they'd devote an entire section as a forum for these f*cktards since most of the readers of The Plain Dealer are anti-war Democrats.

[HughBeaumont]

13. Cuyahoga County = democratic. PD = still O & O by Republicans.

In 2004, then-publisher Alex Machaskee flat-out told his editorial department, who was ready to endorse Kerry in the presidential election, the paper endorses Bewsh or endorses NO one. Option B was chosen and Cleveland instantly became a political laughingstock. The most Democratic county in Ohio endorsed NO one because of a Bewsh-supporting warhawk calling the shots in our own paper.

The same white-male Reagan Democrat leftover curmudgeons apparently still exist in the PD. The publisher and reader representatives are Republican. The republican columnist is a lunatic "support our President first, then the troops" nutjob named Kevin O'Brien. The PD repeatedly endorsed DeWine in every Senatorial race even after his continued support of the Failure Fuhrer's policies. They called Sherrod Brown's working-class favoring platform "A page from the AFL-CIO/Dennis Kucinich handbook, not something grounded in good economics" or something to that effect.

And in the comics, after YEARS of The Boondocks being available but never put in the Plain Dealer's pages (you know, because Cleveland doesn't have a very big urban or Democratic readership for that sort of thing) :eyes: , recently they chose the very unfunny and "conservative" strip Prickly City for permanent placement.

Yep, not renewing THIS rag.

[Berry Cool]

19. HughBeaumont called it right.

The PD in general is not reflective of the political sentiments of the place in which it publishes. Not even when nutjobs get their letters printed.

Kevin O'Brien is a complete joke as an editorial columnist. Talk about a Kool-Aid drinker.

[HughBeaumont]

24. That dummy has a 24 hour Kool-Aid IV!

It must be a bitch to be so shameless and insufferable.

Yet another one who never seems to state WHAT the mission is or HOW exactly we get it finished.

I should make this a weekly series; it isn't like Clevo's well-to-do suburbs are going to be depleted of angry ignorant Fauxtards anytime soon.

It ain't just the east. Westlake and Bay Village are quite moran-heavy, and my city is about 50/50.

[Bill McBlueState]

33. I've noticed this, too

I often visit family in the Cleveland metro area, and it's weird how the PD's op-ed pieces are always full of suburban white people telling black people how to solve their city's problems.

Regina Brett seems to be the worst offender.

[HughBeaumont]

36. Free Times has called them on Regina's weirdness more than once.

Like, how does a suburban white lady have any pulse as to what goes on at E 105 or Collinwood?

Either that, or they have Kevin O Brien reaching new lows in shamelessness, telling us how global warming is a hoax and George W Bush is the greatest president since Ronald Reagan.

Free Times is a good Cleveland paper. For one, it's got great articles, and secondly it has concert reviews on groups that I give a shit about.

[rucky]

35. The Blade is the only Ohio paper worth a damn. n/t

[jimshoes]

12. A quick google of their

names brought up other articles by same authors,(they're obviously wingers) and one of the writers is in the Lake Geauga Young Repugs. Clearly they had their orders to prop up the chimp regarding the PD's anti-war themed LTTE's last week.

[HughBeaumont]

14. Which one?

Young Repukes, huh? Chickens for Colonel Sanders?

I'll have to tell that "war on ideas" man to head down to the recruiter and SIGN UP!

[jimshoes]

15. The second one from painesville

I dont want to type his name here. He's actually the treasurer.

[Berry Cool]

20. Once you get out to Lake (where Painesville is) and Geauga counties

things start to get quite red. Not everyone there, but it's much redder than Cleveland proper.

It's a shame that people read this crap and think Cleveland is as bad as Cincinnati when it comes to redneck idiots. Just remember, this is not the land of Mean Jean Schmitdt up here. People from Cincinnati think we are godless commies.

[jimshoes]

22. That's true,

Cleveland and the surrounding suburbs are very blue. But there are enough glen beck, mike trivisano and rush limphose listeners around to irritate. Kind of like sand in your shoe. My sister & brother in law lived in Painesville for a few years.

[VP505]

23. Occasionally I

see similar LTE in the local paper, I can't help think, its no wonder we have some of the elected we have if apparently so many of the people voting are that ignorant.

[Gregorian]

25. Pinochet died, with supporters.

I heart Pinochet. Wave that flag.

[mwb970]

28. What a sad bunch of letters that is.

I grew up in the Cleveland area (Shaker Hts). I hope these letters are not typical of the current area residents.

[Berry Cool]

29. From what I understand, Shaker is about as blue as the rest of Cuyahoga.

There are conservative wackjobs everywhere you go, you can be sure, but they are not as thick and heavy on the ground as you might think from reading some of the PD letters.

Then again, if you really want to step through the looking glass into Moran-ville, try the Lake County News-Herald, where every columnist is right-wing and almost every letter is from a freeper. (Except that the majority of them are things like "Thanks so much to So-and-So and the Whatsisface Club for helping make our school bake sale such a success!" and "I want to thank the man who returned my purse when I left it on the counter at the store. God bless you!")

[Nevernose]

31. Blame Reagan.

It was him who killed public mental health care, after all.

I'd also like to post a little evilfrown or something, but find myself quite unable: even I, someone notorious for his flippancy, can't come up with something that's not at heart just-plain-SAD.