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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 10:42 PM
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Of Chertoff, Cheney, Radioactive Trucks and Tinfoil...
So Chertoff is now warning that Al Quaeda will be attacking us using trucks laden with radioactive materials?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2947844

Well, as soon as I saw that, I remembered this story...
http://wakeupfromyourslumber.blogspot.com/2006/04/500k-seized-at-nuke-plant-suspects.html
The one about the obvious spooks disguised as truckers and the half a million in cash they brought to the nuclear power plant in Pittsburgh.

The "truck drivers" worked for Bechtel. Now, the links between Bechtel and Cheney and Rumsfeld and all those other scum are well known...

Nuff said. I don't have any desire to be declared an enemy non-combatant...
If I dissappear off this board, you will know I was picked up. (half-kidding only)

This is very, very scary stuff to even consider.

:scared:
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 10:59 PM
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1. I'm impressed.
I don't even think the news is covering this stuff anymore. And this is the stuff they usually go after.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 11:10 PM
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2. You are the only responder to this, so...
Am I nuts?

I really don't generally go for tinfoily theories, but... it, it, it seems so obvious.

Am I crazy? Paranoid? Did I have a brilliantly rare synaptic connection? What?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 11:20 PM
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could you give me a hint to what that thread was about?
it's gone now :hi:
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 11:27 PM
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4. Ummm, why is that thread gone?
It said that Chertoff was warning about attacks coming from Al Quaeda with trucks loaded with radioactive material.

When I saw it, I remembered this. Here is a link to a different article, the original I think, from the Post Gazette. It is the one that says they worked for Bechtel.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06110/683609-57.stm

The truckers worked for a company hired by San Francisco-based Bechtel Corp., which is performing construction work and replacing equipment at the plant, said Richard Wilkins, spokesman for plant owner First Energy Nuclear Operating Co.

The name of the company was not released, but police said the truckers had come from Chicago and were making a scheduled stop to pick up and transport containers of tools to Youngstown, Ohio.

The white semi-truck and empty flatbed trailer pulled up to the plant entrance about 4:15 p.m. Plant security officers told them every vehicle entering the plant must be searched and obtained permission to do so, police said.

In the search, the officers found a green, blue and black duffel bag with a padlock in the sleeper berth of the cab, Trooper Bayer said. The truckers didn't have a key for the lock, so guards cut it off and spotted cash inside, he said.
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 11:32 PM
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6. Well...
I believe this is the last ditch effort of a failed cause. A feeble attempt at scaring everyone back into compliance.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 11:20 PM
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3. I don't see in the article where it says the drivers worked for Bechtel.
Am I missing something? And your first link is a missing topic. Thanks in advance.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 11:28 PM
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5. Here. Please copy in case this disappears.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06110/683609-57.stm

The truckers worked for a company hired by San Francisco-based Bechtel Corp., which is performing construction work and replacing equipment at the plant, said Richard Wilkins, spokesman for plant owner First Energy Nuclear Operating Co.

The name of the company was not released, but police said the truckers had come from Chicago and were making a scheduled stop to pick up and transport containers of tools to Youngstown, Ohio.

The white semi-truck and empty flatbed trailer pulled up to the plant entrance about 4:15 p.m. Plant security officers told them every vehicle entering the plant must be searched and obtained permission to do so, police said.

In the search, the officers found a green, blue and black duffel bag with a padlock in the sleeper berth of the cab, Trooper Bayer said. The truckers didn't have a key for the lock, so guards cut it off and spotted cash inside, he said.
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 11:34 PM
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7. Two guesses
Guns or drugs.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 11:38 PM
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8. Why outside a nuclear reactor?
Why were they hired by Bechtel?

Why were they let go?

Why no real investigation by national security?

Isn't it possible they were there to make a payoff or to procure radioactive material in preperation for a black op involving setting up another causa belli?
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 12:03 AM
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11. Let's see...
First the easiest... They were let go because they didn't commit a crime. Having that money isn't a crime.

Why no investigation? Because there is no crime visiable.

Why were they hired? Ask the company. They were doing construction, I would assume it had to do with that.

You're asking why a trucker was hired, to move a load usually. He was coming from a Texas based location I believe. It was probably some sort of black market trafficking between California and Texas. This is suprisingly common amongst truckers who drive across country especially those who do it along the Mexican boarder. The money was likely the drivers/passengers, of course they're not going to cop to it. If it was a payoff or a means to procure radioactive material, I would assume they would have covered their bases at the gate and the truck wouldn't have been stopped. That's all.

Tinfoil hat propagating, in my opinion.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 12:07 AM
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13. Most trucker/criminals can't afford to lose half a million dollars.
As far as not investigating and not arresting, you know it is normal procedure to hold someone on suspicion of a crime if there is even 1/100th of that amount of money in cash in unusual and suspicious circumstances.
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 12:28 AM
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15. Well, the longest they can be held without proof is usually 24 hours.
And it is an unusual amount of cash, but truckers generally are a go-between in these deals. They wouldn't actually be getting this money personally, they'd be dropping it off somewhere.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 12:28 AM
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16. Dropping it off= responsible for it = you lose it, you die.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 11:47 PM
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9. UMM, I think this is very important.... Please someone smarter than me!
Pick up the phone someone, please.

I think I may be right about something very, very scary here unfortunately.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 11:53 PM
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10. Chertoff's client Dr. Elamir - brother Mohamed has ties with bin Laden
Edited on Thu Aug-09-07 11:55 PM by seemslikeadream
Chertoff's client Dr. Elamir - brother Mohamed has ties with bin Laden

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3031371


Chertoff's client Dr. Elamir - brother Mohamed has ties with bin Laden
Posted by seemslikeadream on Sun Jan-30-05 05:35 PM

“Did Mohamed give Glass any indication as to who was going to get these arms?
“Never got a chance to ask him,” says Glass.
Glass says federal agents told him to drop the matter.
So, what happened to the case? “Nothing,” says Glass.
There was no follow-up. “No,” says Glass.
Was this a missed opportunity? “Hundred percent,” says Glass.
And Randy Glass doesn’t know the half of it, because that same intelligence report that talks about Dr. Elamir also names his brother Mohamed as having ties to Osama bin Laden.” (1)

...

The suspects named in Operation Diamondback are now known to have had ties to AQ Khan’s nuclear weapons network operating out of Pakistan. This info was not known during the operation by the ATF and FBI Agents who worked on the case. Dateline NBC revealed this information on January 14, 2005. ATF Agent Dick Stoltz who supervised Operation Diamondback had this to say:

“In the summer of 1999, a group of illegal weapons dealers were meeting at a warehouse in Florida, their conversations recorded by federal investigators. One of the men, from Pakistan, was seeking technology for nuclear weapons. Who did he say he was working for?
Dick Stoltz: “Dr. Abdul Khan.”
Chris Hansen: “A.Q. Khan.”
Dick Stoltz: “A.Q. Khan.”
Former federal undercover agent Dick Stoltz was posing as a black market arms dealer.
Hansen: “Did you realize what you had at the time?”
Stoltz: “No. We didn't.”
But now he does -- because A.Q. Khan is considered, by some, to be the most dangerous man in the world. Why? Because Dr. Khan has peddled nuclear weapons technology to some of the countries the United States considers most dangerous, and some accepted his offers.”

I find it very interesting that Michael Chertoff, the man tapped to cut off the flow of finances to known terrorists, had in fact represented a man from 1998-2000 who allegedly had ties to Osama Bin Laden and may have sent millions of dollars to him.

I also find it interesting, that while Michael Chertoff served as Assistant United States Attorney and then United States Attorney for New Jersey from 1987 to 1994, that terrorist acts, including the first World Trade Center bombing, were perpetrated under his watch and were fueled from a mosque in Jersey City that was never shut down and still exists today. Chertoff’s former client, Dr. Magdy Elamir, is known to have supported the mosque financially while having suspected ties to Osama Bin Laden. Ramzi Yousef, the mastermind of the 1993 bombing, just happens to be the nephew of the 9-11 mastermind, Khalid Shaikh Mohammed.

more
http://www.opednews.com/duncan_013005_chertoff_questions.htm


Chertoff Buried Early Evidence of Bush Torture Campaign in Afghanistan
Posted by seemslikeadream on Sun Jan-30-05 06:06 PM

Public Policy: Chertoff Buried Early Evidence of Bush Torture Campaign in Afghanistan

By Dave Lindorff, ILCA Associate Member

The nominee for new Homeland Security secretary, back in 2002, worked hard to keep the public from hearing courtroom testimony that would have revealed the Bush government’s new campaign of torture, allowing it to spread from Afghanistan to Guantanamo to Iraq.
From an article of mine in the current, Feb. 14 issue of The Nation magazine (www.thenation.org ).


Back on Friday, June 12, 2002, the Defense Department had a big problem: Its new policy on torture of captives in the "war on terror" was about to be exposed. John Walker Lindh, the young Californian captured in Afghanistan in December 2001 and touted by John Ashcroft as an "American Taliban," was scheduled to take the stand the following Monday in an evidence suppression hearing regarding a confession he had signed. There he would tell, under oath, about how he signed the document only after being tortured for days by US soldiers. Federal District Judge T.S. Ellis had already said he was likely to allow Lindh, at trial, to put on the stand military officers and even Guantánamo detainees who were witnesses to or participants in his alleged abuse. >br>

...

Accordingly, Michael Chertoff, who as head of the Justice Department's criminal division was overseeing all the department's terrorism prosecutions, had his prosecution team offer a deal. All the serious charges against Lindh--terrorism, attempted murder, conspiracy to kill Americans, etc.--would be dropped and he could plead guilty just to the technical charges of "providing assistance" to an "enemy of the U.S." and of "carrying a weapon." Lindh, whose attorneys dreaded his facing trial in one of the most conservative court districts in the country on the first anniversary of 9/11, had to accept a stiff twenty-year sentence, but that was half what he faced if convicted on those two minor charges alone.


But Chertoff went further, according to one of Lindh's attorneys, George Harris. Chertoff (now an appeals court judge in New Jersey) demanded--reportedly at Defense Department insistence, according to what defense attorneys were told--that Lindh sign a statement swearing he had "not been intentionally mistreated" by his US captors and waiving any future right to claim mistreatment or torture. Further, Chertoff attached a "special administrative measure," essentially a gag order, barring Lindh from talking about his experience for the duration of his sentence.


At the time, few paid attention to this peculiar silencing of Lindh. In retrospect, though, it seems clear that the man coasting toward confirmation as Secretary of Homeland Security effectively prevented early exposure of the Bush/Rumsfeld/Gonzales policy of torture, which we now know began in Afghanistan and later "migrated" to Guantanamo and eventually to Iraq. So anxious was Chertoff to avoid exposure in court of Lindh's torture--which included keeping the seriously wounded and untreated Lindh, who was malnourished and dehydrated, blindfolded and duct-taped to a stretcher for days in an unheated and unlit shipping container, and repeatedly threatening him with death--that defense lawyers say he made the deal a limited-time offer. "It was good only if we accepted it before the suppression hearing," says Harris. "They said if the hearing occurred, all deals were off." He adds, "Chertoff himself was clearly the person at Justice to whom the line prosecutors were reporting. He was directing the whole plea agreement process, and there was at least one phone call involving him."

more

http://www.ilcaonline.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=1636&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0


Chertoff Denies Advising CIA on Torture
Posted by seemslikeadream on Tue Feb-01-05 07:56 AM

Chertoff Denies Advising CIA on Torture


WASHINGTON -- Homeland Security Secretary-designate Michael Chertoff privately told congressional staffers Monday that he did not advise the CIA on the legality of using specific torture techniques on terror suspects when he headed the Justice Department's criminal division.

Meeting with Republican and Democratic staff members two days before his Senate confirmation hearings, Chertoff said any legal advice he gave the CIA was broad and generalized -- and merely from the viewpoint of "what a prosecutor would look for," one aide said.
...
The Capitol Hill meeting, which lasted several hours, was described as cordial. Several aides who spoke on condition on anonymity said Chertoff grew slightly exasperated after repeated questioning over whether he had any role in approving techniques that critics said violated Geneva Conventions prohibiting violence, torture and humiliating treatment.
...
Chertoff repeatedly told aides he gave only basic and generalized advice as "how a prosecutor would approach the statute."


http://www.newsday.com/news/politics/wire/sns-ap-chertoff-hearing,0,1001949.story?coll=sns-ap-politics-headlines

Monday, January 31, 2005 · Last updated 11:05 p.m. PT

Chertoff denies advising CIA on torture

By LARA JAKES JORDAN
ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER

Federal appeals court judge Michael Chertoff speaks during the announcement by President Bush of Chertoff's nomination to be his new secretary of the Department of Homeland Security in the Roosevelt Room of the White House in Washington, Jan. 11, 2005. Chertoff is expected to win confirmation easily following his Wednesday, Feb. 2, 2005, hearing, although Democrats said they plan to question him about his role in advising the CIA about torture standards. (AP Photo/Susan Ann Walsh/File)

WASHINGTON -- As he prepares for his upcoming confirmation hearing, Homeland Security Secretary designee Michael Chertoff has denied advising the CIA on using specific torture techniques on terror suspects when he headed the Justice Department's criminal division.

Chertoff is expected to win confirmation easily following his Wednesday hearing, although Democrats said they plan to question him about his role in advising the CIA about torture standards.

Meeting with Republican and Democratic staff members Monday, Chertoff said any legal advice he gave the CIA was broad and generalized - and merely from the viewpoint of "what a prosecutor would look for," one aide said.

The Capitol Hill meeting, which lasted several hours, was described as cordial. Several aides who spoke on condition on anonymity said Chertoff grew slightly exasperated after repeated questioning over whether he had any role in approving techniques that critics said violated Geneva Conventions prohibiting violence, torture and humiliating treatment.
more
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apwashington_story.asp?category=1152&slug=Chertoff%20Hearing
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 12:05 AM
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12. found it check your pms
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 12:22 AM
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14. kick
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 12:29 AM
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17. What is it you think is happening then? I've given my idea.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 12:38 AM
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18. My fear is it is a set up MIHOP in the works.
Radioactive trucks go boom.

We go into Iran (or wherever, probably Iran).

Explain the Bechtel connection.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 08:20 AM
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19. kick for day crowd.
The missing link in the OP was from Debka, so it was removed from LBN, but it claimed that Al Quaeda was going to come with radioactive laden trucks.

If the MSM starts talking about this, I will be worried.
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 09:40 PM
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20. Helluva day crowd. lol
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 10:07 PM
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21. Is THAT what those Bechtel workers were doing a few years ago?
Got busted with bags full of cash in a van. Fell off the radar in mere seconds.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 10:11 PM
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23. Yeah, Rex, I think maybe... yes.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 10:22 PM
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24. Well shit, I can't believe our glorious leader ain't out kicking ass and
oh...

"Captain Cokehead, right, we are screwed."
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 10:08 PM
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22. All hail Generalissimo Busho!
"George Bush is the President. He makes the decisions. He wants me to line up, just tell me where." -- Dan Rather
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 11:22 PM
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25. I remember the truck with the money.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 11:29 PM
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27. WOW! Thanks! It certainly seemed to set off DU RADAR at the time, but...
Why not now?

Have we lost all our great thinkers or is everyone just so exhausted and jaded from all the scandals that this obvious MIHOP setup doesn't even bother anyone anymore.

JEEBUS, read the comments people made at the time!

Please DU, we could be missing a big story here....
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 09:47 PM
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31. Why not now?
I think it's because they are advertising it as a threat now. It sounds just like any other threat. "We have no concrete information, but we'd like you to be scared."

When the truck was discovered with the money, it was quite mysterious, and it seems they tried to make light of it. Hence, we all suspected a serious threat or problem. Also, we never heard the resolution.

It was a very strange incident. I would love to know what happened.


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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 11:27 PM
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26. Could this be what was shown to the
Congress and Senate to sway the voting for the new FISA rules?
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 11:35 PM
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28. Where is lala_rawraw? She seemed very interested in the story at the time
and tried to look into it deeply....


Someone know her well enough to ask?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 09:51 PM
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32. Fears of US attacks on Iran grow as media campaign heats up
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 08:04 AM
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29. SOMEBODY PUT TWO AND TWO TOGETHER PLEASE!
I am sick of this being ignored just because I am a poor writer. Someone else fucking take it up already.

It's like one of those nightmares where you are moving in slow motion and the monster is catching up to you...
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:54 PM
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33. Post #285 at one of the old threads:
Edited on Sat Aug-11-07 10:59 PM by NYC
midnight Tue May-02-06 10:42 AM
Response to Reply #17
285. I 'm trying to imagine it.

When I do, I imagine that they were paid to steal nuclear material to plant else where-maybe Iran. Then U.S. could say that Iran was doing what we wanted to say they were doing,and we could go to war with them. But that was just an imagining I had.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2236825


I guess that could be an explanation. Who knows? I landed on that post by accident.

Clues:

When the security guards stopped the two men for inspection, the truck drove away.

The two men were from Houston.

Beaver Valley had just replaced its fuel rods.
So the owners, FENOC, had 56 to 60 hot fuel assemblies to dispose of.

The truck was sent from Chicago, where a "terror drill" involving a simulation of a a dirty bomb attack is being held between the 1st and the 4th of this month. (That was written on May 3rd, 2006.)

It was the first nuke plant built in the US.

Bomb grade uranium and plutonium is highly radioactive, and they would have had to shield it in a lead pig, slipped into a DU container, slid into a wood or metal overpack. All told, the package would have been about five by five by five feet aprox., and weighed close to a half a ton. Not very easy to hide.

There had been a security alert at the plant a week earlier...

I hope authorities inspected the "two large containers" too.
And in a legitimate, non-shady pick-up of the equipment, wouldn't the truck drivers submit to an inspection of their truck? (Interesting. We never heard if the police inspected the two containers that were intended to be picked up.)

State police said the bag...contained 10 plastic-wrapped bundles of cash totaling $504,230.

The truckers worked for a company hired by San Francisco-based Bechtel Corp., which is performing construction work and replacing equipment at the plant, said Richard Wilkins, spokesman for plant owner First Energy Nuclear Operating Co.
(First Energy caused that huge blackout about 2 years ago in August. 50 million people in a blackout.)

In what currency does that come out in round numbers? (Referring to the $504,230.)
Possible explanation:
In this context where the money probably actually didn't really belong to anyone it was probably just weighed rather than actually counted!

Both the Port of Houston and the Port of Philadelphia were included in the Dubai Port deal.

THEY LET THE TRUCKERS GO, BUT DETAINED REPORTERS?

...the sprinkler system was triggered accidentally on Tuesday, prompting the company to take the plant down to 20 percent power...the unit was back at full power Wednesday afternoon. The replacement of water-damaged charcoal filters is nearly complete, a company spokeswoman said, while an investigation into the cause of the sprinkler system's activation continues.

...one "lost" his ID when it was "stolen"

...the truckers were polite, but the passenger had no identification and said it had been stolen from the truck the night before.

"Your ID is stolen but not that bag of cash? Red flags were popping up all over," Sgt. Davis said."


Because of the confusion surrounding the money, Bayer said, security guards notified state police, who began heading toward the plant. In the meantime, Kingsby turned the rig around and drove away, Bayer said.
Davis said Kingsby and Lewis called their boss while state police were being notified, and their boss told the men to leave and he would send another truck to remove the tools.


At the end of the news video the reporter mentioned the oddity that "none of the locks worked" on the truck.


Stop at nuke plant costs truckers $504K
Trooper Jonathan Bayer said police confiscated the money because of the "totality" of the situation and not just because a police dog detected traces of drugs on it.
"It's more than the hit on the money. It's the way it was packaged and that no one is claiming ownership," he said.
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_445487.html
(That's really significant.)

"The men say their boss gave them the bag and that he was planning to buy a truck with the money. Their boss told FirstEnergy security that he knew nothing about the money and that the men had made a stop in Chicago on Monday.....

The bag was locked, but when plant security guards asked one of the Houston men to unlock the bag, he said he did not have a key. The men called their boss for instructions. Their boss told them to leave the power plant.
(That explains the phone call.)

The men, Donald R. Kingsby and William Lewis, were released Tuesday evening, though state police kept the money because they suspected there could be drug residue on it. The men denied the money belonged to them.

A Google of "Donald Kingsby" has one hit...
an Australian case from the late 80s involving the trespass of a military facility...
he did without lawful excuse trespass upon
prohibited Commonwealth land, namely the Joint Defence Space Research
Facility, an establishment near Alice Springs, commonly known as "Pine Gap".

Alice Springs is a nuclear target".

...the rig and flatbed trailer
were registered to Glenn E. Marsh, 37, also of Houston.

Glenn E. Marsh was stationed in Bosnia...

...FOIA requests have been filed with NRC about the incident...






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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 12:17 PM
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30. Kick
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 10:25 AM
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34. I wouldn't trust ANYTHING from the 'wakeupfromyourslumber' site
Edited on Sun Aug-12-07 10:26 AM by LeftishBrit
It is a very dodgy unreliable site, full of anti-semitic articles (e.g. allegations that the media and entertainment are being dominated by 'Jewish anti-Christianity'; that Mossad organized 9-11, etc.); and links to a number of very far-right sites, such as 'Serendipity' and 'What Really (Never) Happened.'

If something was posted there, that makes it fairly likely that it's not true IMO.
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