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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 04:29 PM
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Cindy Sheehan is against the war!! Not everything she says is a campaign slogan!!
Edited on Wed Aug-08-07 04:31 PM by Breeze54
:grr:

:wtf: is going on here at DU?

I'm against the war!

Will I be shut down also if I speak out against the War on Iraq??

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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 04:30 PM
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1. So by double-negative: everything she says is a campaign slogan?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 04:32 PM
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 04:34 PM
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4. Chill out. I was just trying to parse out what you had written
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 04:37 PM
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6. No you weren't! You were trying to be superior!!
:grr:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 04:39 PM
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8. I don't ever TRY to be superior. Seriously though, I absolve you of your grammatical misdeed.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 04:42 PM
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12. Good insight about yourself.
Because you aren't.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:22 PM
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39. Oh I am, but it comes naturally and without effort. Bask in my excellence people. Drink it in!
Edited on Wed Aug-08-07 05:22 PM by JVS
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 04:39 PM
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9. Lighten up, Francis.
Telling people fuck you will also get you deleted or locked.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:11 PM
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26. Decaf?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:24 PM
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42. Spelling is the letters you use, not the words you use. I know you can do better!
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:25 PM
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45. You need to get off your, "I'm better than everyone else", pedestal
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:26 PM
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46. And you need to stop making Cindy look bad by your behavior
You are, you know.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:28 PM
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47. LMAO! -- *spits coffee out on keyboard* !!
:rofl:
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 04:33 PM
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3. If you advocate for third party candidates you will
It's not that she's against the war. It's that she's advocating against Dems and for third parties.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 04:35 PM
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5. Skinner said that she and her OP's could be posted here, as long as they were about other topics!
An OP about the war and Ms. Sheehan was locked and it was NOT about her campaign!!

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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 04:39 PM
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7. But in the article she advocated running against "Demopublicans"
that was the rub.

Babylonsister has one out there now on Sheehan about Mitt Romney that will likely stay as it doesn't violate the rules.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 04:40 PM
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10. The topic that was locked was NOT about her 'campaign'!!
:grr:

:nuke:
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 04:41 PM
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11. It advocated running as a third party candidate, even if it were not talking about hers
It's pretty clear why it was locked.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 04:46 PM
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13. Baloney!!
:grr:

It was not about her campaign!!
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 04:47 PM
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14. That's what Little Clarkie just said.
It wasn't about HER campaign, but Cindy did advocate other people forming 3rd-party campaigns, which is still against the rules here.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 04:54 PM
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 04:59 PM
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19. Here's an excerpt from her column:
* All of BushCo's enablers must be fired in '08. There are 19 Congress Reps who are signed onto H(Res) 333 to impeach Dick Cheney. Any others are complicit in the crimes of the Bush Regime and must be challenged in '08.Support candidates who do challenge the Demopublicans or run yourself on a 3rd party or Independent ticket.If you feel you are inextricably tied to the Demopublicans, then mount a primary challenge.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:08 PM
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22. How is that different from calling out the Blue Dogs??
Isn't that what she is saying, essentially?

It seems to me that is exactly what she is saying, without typing the names.

And there have been numerous posts on DU, about the Blue Dog sell outs in the last few days.

None of them got locked.



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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:10 PM
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24. She's clearly advocating for a 3rd-party run.
AFAIK, the posts calling out the Blue Dogs did not advocate voting for a third-party candidate instead -- that is against the rules here.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:14 PM
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28. But those threads didn't advocate running against Blue Dogs as independants
as opposed to progressive Dems.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:03 PM
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20. Oh yeah, my $5 talks REAL loud
pfffffffft.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:10 PM
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23. You only donated $5.00 ?
I gave a lot more than that!! A lot more.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:15 PM
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29. Who give a damn. It doesn't buy you a "get out of the rules free" card
The donation doesn't matter, see? The rules are the rules.

Okay, maybe this time it was $20, now that I think about it. But it can't buy me love.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:20 PM
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:22 PM
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"I'm guessing...that their money talks. ?"
No, actually, you brought up money. I was pointing out that I don't actually give enough for it to make much of a noise.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:18 PM
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31. Aren't you special
It's all about you.

Judging people by how much they donate is a very progressive principal.

:sarcasm:
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:23 PM
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41. He spouted about his donation, not me!
I could give a rats ass about what he did or didn't contribute,

But, if he brings it up? It's fair game.

No, I don't think I'm special.

Why do you think you are? :shrug:
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:25 PM
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44. She, and you were the one who said that money must talk around here
but how do you know if the people who disagree with you donated alot or not?
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:47 PM
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53. I don't know or care if anyone contributes and
You are right. I said it first, about the money.

I re-read the thread. I apologize.

But I was just trying to make a point.

Apparently, I failed. That's cool.

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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:34 PM
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50. The Evidence to the contrary is staggering...
You: "You only donated $5.00 ? I gave a lot more than that!! A lot more.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 04:53 PM
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15. Has she changed parties? Has she become an Independent?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:04 PM
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21. Yawp
Running as one against Pelosi
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 04:54 PM
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16. Oh God Here We Go Again. The Melodrama Knows No Bounds.
Look, it's really quite simple. You can't support 3rd party candidacies here. If you aren't doing so, then there isn't a problem. Enough of the melodramatic malarkey.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 04:55 PM
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18. Get a life.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:22 PM
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40. Yes, That Personal Attack Definitely Makes Your Ridiculous OP More Legitimate Now. Way To Go!
:rofl:
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:29 PM
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48. You should be careful.
Just sayin'.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:49 PM
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54. mmm.... threats - goes well with the anti-party-of-slavery platform....
... Cindy-people really make themselves more and more attractive every day.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:10 PM
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25. Yawn.
There's already 2 (other) Cindy threads on the front page. How many will it take to satisfy you people?


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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:13 PM
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27. "You people?"
Now I know whatever you say is worthless.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:19 PM
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35. Awww - I love you too!!!
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stirlingsliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:16 PM
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30. Beautiful. Now It's "You People".
Beautiful.

Just beautiful.

Now it's "you people".

When we realize that we are ALL against the war?

It's not "you" and "us".

It's "All of us".
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:18 PM
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32. Nah. I'm a member of the party of slavery. You guys apparently aren't. There's no "us"...
... Cindy told us so.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:19 PM
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34. We may all be against the war
but we are not all against the Democratic Party.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:18 PM
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33. Isn't there a Cindy message board out there?
Why the need to bitch and moan about the rules here, when they're pretty easy to understand? Seriously, the article was promoting 3rd party candidates, you can't do that here.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:19 PM
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36. Only if you say Democrats aren't doing a peachy job also.
I wrote a protest to that topic
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:24 PM
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43. Horsehockey
We criticize the Dems here alot.

But we do not advocate voting green or libertarian or whoever.

Civilly rendered criticism is just fine. Bashing is not. Advocating against voting for Dems is not.

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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:20 PM
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38. she is a politician running for office
therefore, everything she says must be filtered through that light, just as we would filter comments by Clinton, Obama, Guiliani or Romney.

are you running for office against a Democrat on an anti-war platform? if so, then anything you say about the war is, in essence, a violation of the rules of this board. it's not a conspiracy, you know, the rules are purty darn simple. When Ms. Sheehan declared an electoral challenge from outside the Democratic Party, she lost the benefit of the doubt on whether her comments are electorally related or not. sorry.
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:31 PM
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49. my god, go chill or something
You've attacked just about every poster here. This helps your cause how?
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:38 PM
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51. I just finished reading the thread and some of it's responses and I can
agree with both sides actually. I do find it a bit strange that threads about an article about Cindy advocating third party voting gets locked when thread after thread and I have seen quite a few seem to be pushing repub candidates, quite a few on ron paul, I never could understand why they weren't locked, it is one thing to say nice things about a person but some of them acutally go as far as stating they would make a good president strictly based on being against the war.

I dont understand the ourtight hositility though against some posters simply for stating the rules...

I have read on other sites quite a while ago since I have not been back to them, and have no desire to seeing as I no longer have the time to read ignorance on such a major scale some of those people writing about how they do what they can to be mods on this board so I think in some ways the op is right on when she questions some of the mods.

It seems to be some kind of honor thingy to hoodwink those on this board to believe they are with them when they are anything but...

I honestly don't understand such childish behavior coming from what appears to be adults but it does exist and a few members of du are definately some of those that do nothing more with thier time than to act in the manner of hannity and company in an attempt to lessen du's importance.

I don't agree with cindy calling the dems the party of slavery, as we all very well know the partys have changed through the years and by her implication the party still is, I have yet to see where she says they have evolved.

The democratic party has not by any means always done the right thing but you cannot say without sounding extremely foolish that the repub party is even close to being better for Americans as a whole, I have no doubt a third party if it ever did come about would easily in time become just as stained as others, with power comes greed always, and no group is immune to having members become greedy power hungy extremists who soon become me me me...

I don't believe Cindy to be right on the way she is attacking the dem party as a whole, I honestly believe such antics to be playing into the party of rove style shanigans...

There is a way to weed out undesirables, but to attack all is really in my opinion self serving and self defeating in tne long run and those doing so do tend to lose credibility which is sad.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:43 PM
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52. It's not her stance against the war and I think you really know this.
It's her bashing of Democrats - some's perception of her as being an attention seeker etc..

It's NOT THE WAR stance. I doubt there is one person here who disagrees with her on that.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:51 PM
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55. locking
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/contact.html
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