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slater71 Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 07:44 PM
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Can anyone tell me just what in the hell has Guliani done?
Just wondering other that 9/11, what the hell has he done. He was a mayor for christ sake that`s all.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 07:47 PM
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1. Well I'm suspicious that....
he helped coverup for the real perpetrators of the WTC attacks!
:hi:
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 07:51 PM
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8. I agree,all of a sudden him and bush became good buddies
Before 9/11 he was very unpopular,very few people liked him.Then him and bush get on tv and become overnight heros after 9/11 when the firefighters and police and the peopled who rescue the ones in the world trade center are the real heros
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 07:49 PM
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2. He gave a few speeches after 9/11
and was on Seinfeld. That's about it.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 07:50 PM
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3. Nothing of importance
I believe. That will not harm him, though. His position on social issues and his private life will put him at odds with the social cons, and that might be his downfall.

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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 07:50 PM
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4. His name is Ruda!
Edited on Wed Feb-07-07 07:54 PM by Joanne98
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 07:50 PM
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5. He stepped in front of the camera at the right time.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 07:51 PM
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6. People in New York liked him prior to 9/11 for cleaning up the city
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 08:17 PM
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20. many of us here despised him for this "clean up"
among other things. he wasn't popular with liberals here at all.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 08:19 PM
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21. Speak for yourself. He was a fascist and a racist. NT
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:36 AM
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36. Agreed! eom
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fidgeting wildly Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 09:12 PM
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27. I didn't live in New York while he was mayor,
but I have asked many people about it and haven't found a single one who liked him.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:01 PM
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30. I stand corrected, and obviously misinformed.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:19 AM
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34. many of us realized that the crime rates fell because of the financial boom
of the clinton years.

had very little to do w. the arrogant jerk known as guiliani
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 07:51 PM
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7. Just remember, King George hadn't done much either...
and we all know how that turned out.

Oh, and Giuliani blamed the troops for al Qaqaa :D.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 07:51 PM
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9. By comparison to Bush on September 11, he was a colossus
Other than that . . . meh. Good friend and patron of Bernie Kerik. Presided over a police force that delighted in sadistic treatment of arrestees ("This is Giuliani time, not Dinkins time!"). Had an insufferable boy whom he didn't see fit to rein in at public events, like his own swearing in.

Hmmmm. Looks acceptable in a dress, if you like that kind of thing.

No wonder he's the Republican front-runner. Look at the rest of the field so far!
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 07:54 PM
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11. and he let his gestapo police force beat black people to death
How easily people forget.Also remember what he did to his wife while he was blatently having an affair
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 07:54 PM
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10. He held a news conference and said that he needed 12,000 body bags on 9-11
oh and he breathed in a little 9/11 dust.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 07:58 PM
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16. Well, Riverside, to be fair... he didn't think the Towers would fall!
Really, nobody did -- even the original engineers didn't.

However, he has flip-flopped on his support of Bush several times. Air America radio played some of his press conferences, especially the one after 9/11 when he said, "I'm very glad Bush is the President!"

I wonder if he'd say that today!

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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 07:54 PM
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12. he rounded up or homeless and shipped them off to Yonkers so that Disney
would pay to take over Times Square and turn it into a tourist trap.
Seriously, the homeless just disappeared and then Yonkers sued over it.
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EdwardM Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 07:55 PM
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13. He didn't read my pet goat for 7 minutes.
Today, that is considered a plus.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 07:56 PM
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14.  Didn't he launch
The missile that hit the pentagon ?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 07:57 PM
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15. Here:
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 08:05 PM
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17. He's a fascist. Isn't that enough? n/t
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 08:07 PM
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18. He made the pee smell disappear from the NY subway.
According to Tweety.
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Egalitariat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 08:13 PM
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19. Executives (Governors and Mayors) are more electable than Senators
because they've actually been responsible for running something, whereas all Senators do is vote -- or so it seems to the masses. And the masses choose who becomes president.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 08:22 PM
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22. Who went from being a mayor straight to being a President? nt
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Egalitariat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 09:43 PM
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29. In the last 10 elections. None. Oh wait, that's Senators.
I know of nobody to go from Mayor to president.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:07 PM
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31. Only 3 senators were elected Pres since Lincoln
So I agree that it is a bit harder for them.
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Egalitariat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:11 AM
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32. It's too easy to use their individual votes against them, and they don't have tangible....
accomplishments to tout.

"The bill I sponsored" just doesn't scream achievement like the things that executive branch people (federal or state) have on their resume.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 10:12 AM
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40. Of course, we're talking about the Mayor of NYC...
...a city with a population greater than 39 states (and greater than the lowest 8 combined) and connections to just about everyplace in the world, so the experience is probably more relevant than most mayoralties. But as it happens no mayor of NYC has gone on to president, never mind going straight there. Former NY Governors, though, do rank among the presidential "greats".
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 12:15 PM
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41. Alas, Clinton and Obama easily beat Rudy in the latest NY poll
So the people of NYC must not like him enough.
I saw it on TPM cafe or whatever it is called.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 08:23 PM
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23. Rudy can mention 9-11 more times in a single speech than anyone else in America
It is an amazing talent.
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 08:38 PM
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24. He has done a hell of a lot more than that slick pos Romney.
Not that I like the a$$crater, but he at knows how to run a city. Romney has been on autopilot for the last 40 years.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 08:53 PM
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25. He's a political genius, as in: "Bernie, thank God George Bush is our president."
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 09:05 PM
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26. He's a great dramatic actor
Right after 9/11, he pointed and shouted at people off camera who weren't there, giving them orders to do things that weren't real. It's a very rare and special talent and requires imagination and chutzpah, as well as a desire to walk around at a rapid pace at the head of a large entourage, roll up your shirt sleeves, and set your tie crooked so it looks like you're working hard.
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 09:42 PM
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28. He cracked down on squeegee guys
And don't forget the subway turnstile jumpers. He went after those guys too.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:15 AM
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33.  He transformed NYC from a working class city to the playground of the world's bourgeoisie.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:55 AM
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38. That was already happening, but...
...Rudy didn't exactly slow it down.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:34 AM
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35. He tried to cut funding for the Brooklyn Museum
NYC mayor’s decency panel draws fire

(Editor's note: Mayor Rudolph Giuliani appointed a 20-member "decency commission" on April 3. Included on the panel are three artists, three clergy members and Guardian Angels founder Curtis Sliwa. Artist Peter Max declined to join after other artists criticized the panel and several news organizations reported that Max had been convicted of income tax evasion.)

NEW YORK — Mayor Rudolph Giuliani's plan to judge the moral merits of artwork has been roundly denounced by the four Democrats seeking to replace him at City Hall.

"The mayor's so-called decency committee is a sham," City Council Speaker Peter Vallone said March 30. "There are pressing issues for the city to attend to, and imposing arbitrary standards of decency on our public institutions is certainly not one of them."

(snip)

Courts have sided against the mayor on the issue.

In 1999, when Giuliani ordered the city to halt funding to the Brooklyn Museum after he objected to a painting of the Virgin Mary that featured pornographic cutouts and was dappled with elephant dung, a federal court ruled against the city.

And in a countersuit, a judge ruled that the city had violated the First Amendment's guarantee of free expression. The city was forced to restore funding and to stop eviction proceedings against the museum.

Six weeks ago, Giuliani was incensed by another Brooklyn Museum exhibit: a 15-foot-tall photograph of a nude African-American woman portraying Jesus surrounded by disciples, titled "Yo Mama's Last Supper."

more…
http://www.freedomforum.org/templates/document.asp?documentID=13589
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:41 AM
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37. His connection to the events of 9/11 are suspect. He knew the south tower was coming down 10 minutes
before it did.

He was also suspiciously invoived with FEMA games in WTC#7 when the first plane hit. That building, filled with all sorts of hi tech equipment and important CIA/FBI files, collapsed (just like a controlled demolition) without ever being hit by a plane, only having had some fires burning.
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The Gunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:57 AM
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39. He cheated on his wife
Which we all know is more impeachable than starting an illegal war.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 12:41 PM
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42. He did some funny stuff on SNL a few times ...
Other than that, I can't think of anything else.

Bake
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