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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 07:51 PM
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Keith is taking Mike Stark to task
for confronting O'Reilly at his home.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 07:52 PM
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1. Goddamn it!
Billo has had NO qualms using such tactics against HIS critics - turnabout IS fair play!!!!
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Bright Eyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 07:53 PM
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2. "The good guys are supposed to be above that."
Bravo Keith!
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 07:53 PM
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3. Nice guys finish last...
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 07:54 PM
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5. fucking A!!
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 08:00 PM
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8. Exactly. Bringing it to O'Reilly at that gutter level gives him undeserved relevance.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 07:54 PM
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4. Keith is right about this one. Stark was over the top.
I hold no brief for O'Lielly, but this made his opposition look bad. I found it to be embarrassing -a concept the likes of O'Lielly, Limbaugh and Coulter do not understand.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 07:57 PM
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6. Geeze...I am kinda torn..
O'Reilly has people stalked and for lack of a better term ambushed....and half the time he gets the story wrong...

No sympathy really....he dishes it out and doesn't get his hands dirty and then it happens to him and we should feel sorry for him....

:shrug:
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 08:00 PM
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7. i'm disappointed in KO
Billo established the rules of the game by harassing, sickin fox security on callers, agitating his brain dead viewers etc. If he thinks that's the way things should be done then Mike Stark or anyone else who chooses to do so is well within his rights to play the game according to o'reilly's rules.

If billo can't take it then he needs to find another line of work or learn to keep his fuckin threats to himself.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 08:01 PM
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10. Keith's point is a good one
don't take these fights to someone's home.

As a recipient of fake anthrax mail, he understands this well.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 09:01 PM
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21. What if they do it first? O'Reilly sent his producer to wait outside the JetBlue
...CEO's home and ask him questions on camera as he left the building.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 09:04 PM
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24. that's the kind of argument a 5 year old uses
if it's wrong, it's wrong.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 08:02 PM
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11. When we play by their rules, we slowly become them.
We need only one Limbaugh, Hannity, and O'Reilly in this world, and we don't need any on the left.
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 08:01 PM
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9. KO is dead on with this issue -
Edited on Thu Aug-02-07 08:02 PM by givemebackmycountry
Leave people alone at HOME.
In public - well that's a different story.
As he said - He doesn't want FOX SHEEP confronting him on his doorstep.
And he has a valid point.
Look, Bill-O is a jerk off.
We all know that.
Confront him at his workplace, but at home?
Not a good idea.

WE ARE BETTER THAN THAT.

Just my 2 cents.
Right or wrong.

Edited to add this:

Two wrongs don't make a right.
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Greylyn58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 08:05 PM
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12. I think Keith is right about this
If we act just like them(Billo, Limbaugh, Coulter, etc.) then we are no better than them.

Yes, nice guys do sometimes finish last, but it's the burden we bear trying to prove there is a difference between us.




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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 08:07 PM
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13. Yep. It's been said over and over,
but it really is not right to stoop to their level. Otherwise we are no better than they are.

Same reason we don't believe in depriving people of civil liberties in the name of "catching terrorists." If we don't hold ourselves to the high moral ground, we are no better than the terrorists.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 09:02 PM
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23. If someone punches you, and you punch him back, are you...
...no better than him?

O'Reilly sent a producer to the JetBlue CEO's home BEFORE Mike Stark went to O'Reilly's home.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 08:22 PM
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14. I don't agree with Keith on this one. But I don't expect to agree with anybody, even CATWOMAN on
Edited on Thu Aug-02-07 08:49 PM by UTUSN
everything. I've heard this old argument about the "good guys" for decades. Yeah, while all of our undeniably GOOD GUYS were playing NOBLE, the street-fighting a-holes were kicking our butts.

Yeah, that's how BOOTS kick our SANDALED asses.

HOOEY (sp?)!!1 When I've been sermonized about MY *having* to FORGIVE a-holes, that *I* have to be BIGGER, NOBLER, BETTER? Uh, has anybody noticed that a-holes FEEL NO QUALMS about their
a-hole-ness?!1 This is B.S., for US to VACATE THE FIELD and let the a-holes be a-holes. We need some a-hole-ness.

So, what? O'LOOFAH is fine to send his "producers" out there to ambush judges and whomever, while WE canNOT snap pictures of O'LOOFAH with half of his red shorts crammed up his crack?!1 I want that HALF ASS out there!!1

O'LOOFAH's chickenhawk chicken legs, courtesy of Mike STARK, the "HANNITY sucks ass" dude:


COLMES was at LAMONT hqtrs signing off, and a NEDhead, Mike STARK, behind him held up the standard blue LAMONT campaign sign. Then he slowly, coolly turned it over, and there was a hand printed sign, "HANNITY SUCKS ASS"!!1 The camera stayed there a tad, then switched to HANNITY, who had a sheepish, martyred look. PRICELESS!!1


Here's chickenhawk O'LOOFAH receiving the VFW Errect Loofah Award


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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 08:26 PM
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16. Hey Hon, I'm with you
fuck O'Loofah!!!!

I hope Mike made him miserably uncomfortable :hi:

and THEN some :)
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lordsummerisle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 09:10 PM
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25. While I don't usually agree with these tactics
I totally agree in this case for the reasons UTUSN stated...
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 12:05 AM
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27. Nobody says you have to "vacate the field"
or let assholes be assholes.

You just have to make the decision you will stand your ground without becoming one yourself.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 08:25 PM
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15. Here's the low-down
For those interested:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/7/31/9920/91146



And Stark does claim that BillO first threatened to come to Stark's house to straighten him up.

I contacted O'Reilly's producer (and recorded the voicemails and archived the email - 3 times to let him know I wanted to interview him. I never heard back.

Bill O'Reilly threatened, on national radio, to come to my house and "surprise me". I'll link the audio soon. (now linked) Just last week, he threatened to visit the home of an oil company CEO. I did not do a thing that O'Reilly hasn't advocated several times himself.


Even still, going to BillO's house is kind of a low blow.

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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 08:51 PM
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17. I need some e-addy to tell Mike I'm WITH HIM!!1 n/t
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 08:53 PM
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19. go to Mike's website:
www.callingallwingnuts.com
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 08:54 PM
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20. He's asking for donations.
If you want to, you can give him a donation via the bottom-right of this page:
http://www.callingallwingnuts.com/
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 09:02 PM
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22. Thanks, CW and Eric. I sent him an e-mail. n/t
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 08:53 PM
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18. Keith was wrong on this one.
Stark was doing exactly what O'Reilly did to JetBlue CEO David Barger. He went to his home and confronted O'Reilly.

<snip?
This summer, that Web site is having a convention in Chicago and only one major corporation has stepped up as a sponsor. That company is JetBlue, the airline that melted down last winter.

As is our policy, we contacted JetBlue last week to ask why, why would it sponsor a hateful Web site? It had no answer. So we sent "Factor" producer Jesse Watters out to see JetBlue CEO David Barger.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,289573,00.html
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 12:03 AM
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26. Obviously some people are forgetting that an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
Where does the evil end?

Does it end with them? Or with you?
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 12:07 AM
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28. Keith was NOT wrong. He was right.
If you become a jerk to fight jerks, then it just becomes a contest of jerks. The end does not justify the means. And it doesn't matter one bit who did what first.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 11:44 AM
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29. sometimes when your opponent is in the gutter
you have to crawl in there with him in order to duke it out.

Just sayin'.........
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 12:47 PM
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30. We can't be pussies forever...
...and Mike Stark proved to BillO that you CANNOT fuck with the Left without some sort of blowback!:thumbsup:
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