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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 09:35 AM
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FBI Seeks To Pay Telecoms For Data-$5 Million a Year Sought for Firms To Keep Databases
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/24/AR2007072402479.html

FBI Seeks To Pay Telecoms For Data
$5 Million a Year Sought for Firms To Keep Databases

By Ellen Nakashima
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, July 25, 2007; Page A07

The FBI wants to pay the major telecommunications companies to retain their customers' Internet and phone call information for at least two years for the agency's use in counterterrorism investigations and is asking Congress for $5 million a year to defray the cost, according to FBI officials and budget documents.

The FBI would not have direct access to the records. It would need to present a subpoena or an administrative warrant, known as a national security letter, to obtain the information that the companies would keep in a database, officials said.

"We have never asked for the ability to have direct access to or to 'data mine' telephone company databases," said John Miller, the FBI's assistant director for public affairs. "The budget request simply seeks to absorb the cost to the service provider of developing an efficient electronic system for them to retain and deliver the information after it is legally requested."

The proposal has raised concerns by civil libertarians who point to telecom companies' alleged involvement in the government's domestic surveillance program and to a recent Justice Department inspector general's report on FBI abuse of national security letters. In one case, a senior FBI official signed the letters without including the required proof that they were linked to FBI counterterrorism or espionage investigations.

The report also disclosed that the bureau was issuing "exigent letters," telling telephone companies that the bureau needed information immediately and would follow up with subpoenas later. In many cases, agents did not follow up. Moreover, Inspector General Glenn A. Fine found, there was no legal basis to compel the disclosure of information using such letters.

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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 09:38 AM
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1. Sounds like asking for appropriations through weasel words.
Defray? Does the FBI have the right to pay ONE DIME of this money without prior authorization? None of this pay now, get a refund from Congress later business.
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 11:09 AM
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2. Since it's "customer data"
How about paying ALL the customers? That would be capitalism. Pay the source for their data.

Anything else is enabling corporatism and seems a type of theft and thuggery.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 11:11 AM
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3. This is exactly how they get around the "government can't collect info"
They'll say, yes...but we can buy what someone else has collected.
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