Why John Edwards must not only be defeated, but destroyed

[Sapphire Blue]

Edwards: It's Not the Haircut
Taylor Marsh
7.19.2007

It's the message Republicans are scared of, so the $400 haircut was a way in to scuttle the man. It also provided the opportunity to burnish the image before the man could reveal the steel of his character. But Edwards handed it to his adversaries so he's going to have to get himself out of this. It's the gift that may yet sink his candidacy, especially since the American voter is akin to a pre-pubescent teen more interested in dirt than policy plans for the people. We are a scandal nation, so we get the president we deserve, though the 2006 election offered a glimmer of hope. It's that tiny thread Edwards must now grab.

(snip)

John Edwards is different. He talks of poverty, peace and something beyond perpetual war, which completely flummoxes Republicans. The truth is that the reason Republicans want Edwards gone is that they can't attack his message, because they don't understand it, are even scared of it, dread facing it. The haircut is easier to ridicule, as they hope to capitalize on the juvenile mind set of the average American voter who is too busy working two jobs and is willing to hate anyone so rich, good looking and who has succeeded where they have failed. Edwards is a wealthy man who came from nothing who is now making his life's work the poor; people to whom Republicans can't relate, but to whom they continually sell their policy propaganda to, but which will never set them free. Nothing is scarier than the thought of the poor rising up and realizing that the talk of the American dream through Republican policies (and the cheerleading of talk radio) will never reach that far down to them. If the truth be told to the masses, Republicans would never win another election and wingnut radio hypocrisy would be finished forever. That's why Edwards must not only be defeated, but destroyed; like Kerry the veteran turned against war had to not only be stopped, but the symbol he represented obliterated and neutralized. Antithetical notions to Republican thinking are not allowed to thrive in the American dialogue, and the messenger will not survie to sell his story.

Republicans know how to fight on war turf. However, they haven't a clue how to battle someone who's talking about the poor and that terrorism isn't some talking point "bumper sticker," but something we can tackle through our own actions and policies. Looking inwards isn't a GOP strong suit. They point outward and blame others. Edwards doesn't blame anyone, but instead searches for solutions, even if it means picking up a hammer and fixing the problem himself.

Edwards is asking us all to search our souls and unearth results.

(snip)

So on the wingnuts drone about the $400 haircut, about the Edwards "mansion" and about his wealth, which if he were a Republican they would praise, raise up as example, with chants of his name heard everywhere. However, Republicans can't have anyone rise up from being poor to succeed who doesn't follow their path, but instead is a champion of the poor. It threatens their very existence.

Edwards is a self-made man who made good and because he's a Democrat he must not only be ridiculed, but he also must be destroyed. He's too good to be true and a $400 haircut has now made him vulnerable, because the press has also decided to help take him down. It's what America does to its heroes; the men and women who rise up against the odds to make good and go far. As much as we love to see heroes rise, we love to see the good guy fall.


http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=25932

Transformational Change For America And The World - JOHN EDWARDS for PRESIDENT 2008

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A true revolution of values

"I'm proposing we set a national goal of eliminating poverty in the next 30 years." - JOHN EDWARDS 08

Building One America Starts in New Orleans - JOHN EDWARDS 08

Silence is Betrayal - JOHN EDWARDS 08

Moral Leadership - JOHN EDWARDS 08

Ending Poverty in America - edited by Senator John Edwards

[Botany]

1. Outside of Gore Edwards is our best person

Look @ how hard they are trying to ruin him.

[poverlay]

3. Any chance he can pick his wife as his VP? Or she could be prez and he could be VP? That woman is

100 different kinds of powerful. Articulate, cool, passionate, smart, amazing... I could go on and on and on... Oh yeah: Beautiful, talented, wise, brave...
Am I being too obvious about how I feel here?

Seriously though, If Edwards picks the right VP, he'll be unstoppable. I'm a Kucinich voter, but Edwards is seriously starting to tug at my vote-strings.

[jsamuel]

4. Feingold imo nt

[liberaldemocrat7]

88. The Republicans need to slam Edwards as much as Mark Foley needed to slam young boys.

The Republicans appear scared of John Edwards. he's no DLC democrat and he comes from the South.

You see Republicans appear scared when one of them says well Edwards comes from the south but he doesn't appear someone we should elect.

[Botany]

7. On what was one of the worst days in their lives the Edwards .....

.... talked about helping other people by moving on with their campaign.
No one could have blamed John & Elizabeth if after getting the news that the
cancer was terminal if they packed up and went home and enjoyed themselves.

Edwards is w/ otu a doubt the best person in the field now and he scrares the crap
out of the right wing.

[PoconoPragmatist]

56. All The More Reason Edwards MUST Win!!

BECAUSE he scares the crap outta the right wing!!

The right wing has scared the crap outta me for YEARS!!

[loudsue]

90. They scare the crap out of me, too. Edwards is the best one running

as far as true American values is concerned. Hillary and Obama scare me almost as much as the republicans, because they're both corporatists. John Edwards is more of a Michael Moore democrat....he gives a damn about the American people, and how we're all being screwed by the corporatists.

John Edwards is an "American Dream" candidate: he's still under the impression that the American Dream should be available to ALL Americans, and not just the most wealthy ones.

:kick::kick::kick:

[Harry Monroe]

45. I believe Obama would make a great VP...

...if he does not get the nomination. I think that would be an unstoppable ticket Edwards/Obama. Then Obama in 2016 for President!!

[whopis01]

95. unfortunately I don't think that would be allowed... n/t

[Jane Austin]

10. I deplore what the media and the Rethuglicans are doing to Edwards.

That picture of him in the New York Times, fully half of which is taken up by "Hillary" signs is just the latest example.

As soon as they get rid of Edwards they will start in on somebody else.

Meanwhile, Romney is more ridiculous and off-key every day, McCain is more pathetic, Giuliani is more comically awkward and absurd and Fred Thompson just reminds me of that old relative you have to hug even though he reeks of cigar smoke and is so large and clumsy the hug hurts.

But except for discussing McCain's failing campaign, they don't touch the Republicans.

It is depressing, disgusting and demoralizing.

[Botany]

12. The $400 haircut will be the next .....

Al Gore "I invented the internet"
John Kerry Wounded himself in Vietnam Swiftboat shit

The truth is meaningless to these thugs .... Google Creative Reponse Concepts
they specialize in this kind of attack.

[PA Democrat]

37. Mitt Romney paid $300 for a "make-up consultant"

Mitt Romney, the Republican presidential candidate famous for his personal grooming as well as his policies, spent $300 on a make-up consultant, according to papers released under election spending declarations.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/18/wmitt118.xml

But all we hear about is that $400 haircut. Must be the "liberal media".

[PoconoPragmatist]

57. Yup.

goddam liberal media again.

[theredpen]

15. Yes! and thanks a f--ing lot to Esquire

[Harry Monroe]

47. "None of the Above" is leading the Republican pack!!!

At 25%!!!!

From this week's "Top 10 Conservative Idiots"

"Still, it's going to be an uphill climb for all the GOP candidates come election time. TPM Cafe noted that an AP/Ipsos poll of Republicans released last week revealed that their current faves for the presidential nod stack up like this:

Mitt Romney: 11%
John McCain: 15%
Fred Thompson: 19%
Rudy Giuliani: 21%
None of the above: 25%

That's right - a plurality of Republican voters prefer none of their candidates for president. What a hoot."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=103&topic_id=296086&mesg_id=296086

:rofl:

[defendandprotect]

52. The Republican candidates are religous fanatics -- and idiots --

[defendandprotect]

53. Can they remove Edwards as easily as they removed Dean -- ?????

[defendandprotect]

54. Will they be able to remove Edward as easily as they removed Dean -- ????

[Kokonoe]

101. Remember how every political cartoon in 1991 was against

Ross Perot. I guess Bill Clinton was a smaller threat. I think this may be a repeat of that election. If ross had not quit he would have won. Go Edwards. Albert Gore would be happy as as Edwards vice president to achieve a better America.

[Cronus Protagonist]

42. I'd prefer Kucinich, but realistically, you're right and he'd make a fine president too

I'd vote for him.

:P

[kiteinthewind]

50. My thoughts, precisely!

:toast:

[snooper2]

69. You are correct....

NT

[malaise]

99. Outside of Gore and Kucinich

Edwards is the best Dem.

[billyoc]

2. Ok, OK! I'll vote for him.

:hi:

[PoconoPragmatist]

59. Hmmmm

That picture. Just another reason for me to hate Hillary.

If business loves her, then she must hate workers.

I already consider her damaged goods, anyway, she has capitulated with the bushies too often for my liking, and is basically Republican Lite, as far as I'm concerned. There's nothing Hillary says that I want to hear. This is not the same woman who was First Lady in 1994.

Edwards, on the other hand...speaks my language. He cares about what I CARE ABOUT!!

Edwards/Moore '08

[Cookie wookie]

85. I agree about Hillary. She sold her soul somewhere along the line

Sad. Her support for the war was and is disgusting. Her support for "globalization" and exporting our jobs is disgusting.

[judaspriestess]

5. I'm getting ready to donate to his campaign

in the next couple of days.

[bryant69]

6. I like Obama and I like Richardson

But Edwards is the best choice I think. And I think our friends on the right know it.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[Harry Monroe]

48. I'll still go back and forth between Edwards and Obama

Can't really decide yet. I'd take either one as our nominee.

[bpeale]

96. I would love to see an Edwards/Richardson ticket!

Richardson...that's my governor & what a great leader he has been.

[Madspirit]

8. k&r...n/t

[AndyTiedye]

9. Looks Like The Repiglickins Know All Too Well How To Take Down Someone Like Edwards

Republicans know how to fight on war turf. However, they haven't a clue how to battle someone who's talking about the poor

They don't?

Looks like they are doing it, and as successfully as always.

It's easy when you own the media.

[PoconoPragmatist]

60. Out Of Context

They are NOT fighting Edwards on the issues Edwards is talking about. they can't, because his message is not attackable...and they haven't a clue about the issues, or how to fight them. They can't package their shit and make it look good compared to what Edwards is selling, and they know that. so, instead they go after bullshit like the 400 dollar haircut to try to damage the package Edwards has, before anyone sees what is INSIDE the package.

That is what the quote meant.

Republicans are resorting to the same bullshit in trying to take down Edwards, because they know that, in honest debate, their product can't sell against Edwards' product.

[AndyTiedye]

74. They NEVER Attack the Message — Always the Messenger

It is vitally important to them to muzzle the message,
so they don't attack that, they just pretend it doesn't exist.

They always attack the messenger, and they are very effective at that.

[PoconoPragmatist]

76. 'Zactly!!

Did you steal the same page out of the Republican playbook that I did?!?!

The Republicans KNOW their product is shit...but they package it up nice and pretty and sell it as sugar.
Edwards message is a message they cannot counter. They know Edwards message beats theirs any day. so, they smear the packaging before anyone gets a chance to look inside. Because if they ever do...the Pubbies lose, and they know it.

[FogerRox]

11. I'm a draft Gore person, but w/o Gore, I will be working and voting for Edwards

[zazzle]

34. welcome to Team Edwards!

[FogerRox]

36. Best in class.

[xchrom]

13. while i have no dog in the primary hunt -- i will recommend this.

[Gregorian]

14. I think they're afraid Republicans like him.

I don't think it has anything to do with his messages or any of that.

I think Edwards has appeal for Republicans. And that is the most dangerous thing for republican presidential candidates.


It's totally my gut truthiness here.

[AdHocSolver]

40. Spot on! The attack is aimed at scaring Democrats into not voting for Edwards in the primary.

I was asked this past weekend by some very liberal Democrats about which candidate I favored for president. When I said that I thought Edwards was the best choice and added that I believed Edwards had the best chance of winning, each of them jumped on me with the same harangue: "How can you say Edwards can win when he made that mistake of having his campaign paying $400 for a haircut?"

When I pointed out to these "Liberal Democrats" that, in the grand scheme of things, it was not such an important issue and that Edwards had dealt with it right away, they came back with the same almost verbatim retort that it would prevent him from beating a Republican. I am almost ashamed to admit that I lost my cool and blew up at them pointing out that the Republicans supported Bush who started an unnecessary war that cost thousands of lives, has nearly bankrupted the country with huge spending programs, war costs, and tax giveaways to the rich, has destroyed the morale of the military, and earned the U.S. the enmity of large parts of the world, and "you're worried about a stupid $400 haircut that Edwards paid for himself?..." At this point, each of them walked away from me, one of them practically running.

I immediately realized that the "$400 haircut" attack was aimed, not at Republicans or independents, but at liberal Democrats like these two guys, in order to scare them into voting for someone other than John Edwards in the primaries. It also occurred to me that if the Republicans are attacking Edwards even before the primaries, then he is the candidate that they most fear to face.

This experience has convinced me even more that John Edwards should be the Democratic candidate, as he has the best chance of getting the most Republican and independent crossover votes. Our candidate needs a large enough margin so that the Republican dirty tricks won't be enough to steal the election as happened in 2000 and 2004.

[PoconoPragmatist]

61. Yes!!

And we can't retort about Mitt romney's paying $300 to a makeup consultant, it just makes us look petty. But DAMMIT, why can't we find a way to point out the hypocrisy without looking petty?

[Joe Chi Minh]

16. I think Mr Marsh is totally wrong about John Edward's haircut, and the

public's gullibility, at least these days. Not that I believe any but a tiny percentage of Democrats or 'undecideds' would ever have failed to see the irrelevance of the whole haircut flim-flam. Mr Marsh seems to place more faith in the power of the Republican noise-machine than is warranted. All these loony attempts at smears are ineffective. Just cast your mind back the Clinton impeachment circus.

The public seemed to take great delight in confounding CNNs finest with their daily polls.

[hfojvt]

44. I looked up some polling though

Several months ago Edwards was running at 24%. Now he's running at about 16%. Why has he slipped backwards? Has he done poorly in the debates? Have his opponents (Obama and Clinton) done better? Or is the media blitz to attack Edwards and promote Clinton working?

[Joe Chi Minh]

106. None of the above I think. Polls are political tools, used by politicans to .

influence the opinions of the many apolitical people, who just want to vote for the winner. The poll that counts is the election. Alas, even if the machines are bent.

I've seen posts here indicating that Edwards' popularity among the mass of the people far exceeeds that of any of the others. Time will tell. But I'd bet on it. I have done.

[Yael]

17. If Gore doesn't run

I hope Edwards gets the nod. He needs to just keep doing what he is doing and let Hillary be the lightening rod.

I could see him with Richardson as VP.

I'm a DK supporter too -- but he will do better putting legislation through the House and keeping the drums beating within the party. I don't think he can compete on the national level for this office.

[waiting for hope]

18. Edwards is scaring the crap

out of the media - there is a reason behind all of this:

However, Republicans can't have anyone rise up from being poor to succeed who doesn't follow their path, but instead is a champion of the poor. It threatens their very existence.

K&R and a ton of these:

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[sparkleon]

19. John Edwards

visions for One America for all is about as good and honest as anything I've heard in decades. Good triumps over evil. I've heard said by other Democratic voters that any of them would make a good President. Really? I don't buy that at all. The Repubs own the media, the employees who collects their paychecks from them, so it's only natural they want Hillary or a Black man to be our nominee so that can whip their butts.

The Repubs and their media owned companies and all the lobbyists know that JRE will not pander to their cause of greed. So if you want a leader in the White House, it's a no brainer.... JOHN EDWARDS as President in 2008, we can't do better!

[dk2]

29. I have to agree with you

It has been a really long time.

John Edwards is the best choice, for me 2008.

[saltpoint]

68. Welcome to DU, sparkleon.

[bobbolink]

20. And there are so many in "liberal" circles who are ready to swallow the propaganda.

And, yet, his appeal grows.

What a threat, indeed!

[cgrindley]

21. ummm because he already lost to Bush and Cheney once?

why should he get a second chance?

[zazzle]

33. America deserves a second chance!

[bobbolink]

43. "Why should he get a second chance?" Ummmmm, because he didn't lose?

[PoconoPragmatist]

63. I Call Bullshit

One Word. Ohio.

The man didn't lose. The election was stolen. AND...Kerry was the one who got beat. Edwards was along for the ride. I kept saying the ticket shoulda been Edwards/Kerry.

If it had been, I don't think even the shennanigans in Ohio (as documented in Rolling Stone) could have derailed Edwards.

[Mnpaul]

73. and Edwards

fought to get the votes counted long after Kerry gave up.

[PoconoPragmatist]

77. I Was HOPING Someone Else Would Add This

It lends more creedence to what I was saying, than if I'd said it.

[Mnpaul]

98. Damn - I forgot

Elizabeth too :loveya: She played a big part in it

[nan]

22. The right wing memes are starting to backfire on them...

and the press is on notice that we're onto them too.

[Old and In the Way]

23. He'd make a great President, no question.

He's on my shortlist....

[Raksha]

24. Great article and very true. If John Edwards were a Republican,

he'd be their dream candidate. Unfortunately for them...he isn't. I think this article just decided me on my second choice (Al Gore is still the first), if I have to make a choice among the declared candidates.

[zazzle]

35. Republicans don't mention Romney's $300 haircuts nor his $10 million home

[cobalt1999]

25. IMHO, Republicans haven't even noticed him, let alone try to sabotage him.

Hillary and Obama are what Republicans dread.

[Catchawave]

26. LOL n/t

[JANdad]

27. LOL...Rush has been pulling for Hillary for 6 years...

He knows that NO ONE CANDIDATE will enrage their base more than Hillary...they are not afraid of her..they are praying for her!

[cobalt1999]

28. If you think talking about a haircut and his house are because

the republicans are scared, then they certainly aren't trying too hard. Come on, that's low hanging fruit and no effort required. They are not worried about Edwards, because they don't think he'll win the primary.

If he somehow does win the primary, THEN you'll see the guns come out on him. Right now, republicans are planning on defeating either Hillary or Obama in the general election. Like it or not, Edwards is an afterthought.

*edit for spelling*

[zazzle]

38. O'Liely announced today -

Hillary will win because of her huge "messaging machine" - but didn't tell his audience that his boss is funding and promoting her campaign.
Oh - and the Clintons' clo$e friend, Vinod Gupta, whose company conducts CNN's polling - has also "predicted" Hillary will win.
If NBC execs were sponsoring fundraisers for Giuliani, Hillary and Dems would be outraged - but not a peep from the Dems or Howard Dean.

[hfojvt]

46. the media does two things though - clearly

They never mentions Edwards without mentioning a) how wealthy he is, and b) now they bring up hairgate every time they talk about him.

They also never mention Hillary without mentioning that she is the front-runner with a huge lead (hint, hint, 'it's over, jump on the bandwagon already')

[Auggie]

30. I agree. Hillary is a much more beatable opponent.

[Yael]

32. The Repubs here in my 'burg are pulling for her. One of the main reasons I am

against her running. It is too risky.

[PoconoPragmatist]

64. Wrong!!

Hillary and Obama is what the Republicans WANT.

Hillary is a love her/hate her sort of person. As many people will vote AGAINST hillary as FOR her, and they know it. And there's still too much stupid racism for a black man to win, sad but true.

I say this...and I say it here and now for all to hear, and think what you will of me for this....

I will work as hard as I possibly can to deny Hillary the nomination. If she wins it, I'll hold my nose and vote for her, because, as bad as she is, she'll be better than an actual Republican (not that there's much real difference, in my opinion.)

[cobalt1999]

93. Not wrong.

Hillary and Obama may be what the republicans want, but they don't have to do anything to Edwards. He's not a threat to win the nomination. The haircut and house issues would pale in comparison to what the republicans will accuse him of if they were really concerned.

Personally, I think they are terrified of Gore, planning to compete against Hillary/Obama, and ignoring the rest.

[PoconoPragmatist]

97. I Think You Better Back That Up!!

The haircut and house issues would pale in comparison to what the republicans will accuse him of if they were really concerned.

Exactly what skeletons are you suggesting Edwards has?? And where's your documentation?

Edwards scares the crap outta them, so they are trying to smear the messenger, before people get a chance to see his message...because they know their message does not sell against Edwards' message. THEY KNOW IT. They know their product is shit packaged to look like honey.

so, they want to ruin Edwards' package before people get a chance to see what's inside.

We already know what's in Hillary's package...MOTS. She's a corporatist, a DLC member. Need I say more?

I will. Hillary's a lightning rod!! As many people as might vote for her...that many more will vote against her, just because she is who she is!! she will energize the conservative base like no other candidate possibly could! She will destroy us!!

that said, if she DOES become the nominee, I will hold my nose and vote for her, but don't expect me to be too very excited about it.

[cobalt1999]

100. I'm not suggesting anything.

"Exactly what skeletons are you suggesting Edwards has?? And where's your documentation?"
I don't have anything, however, if the republicans really were afraid of him, they would make something up. You'd have a swift boat team already producing much better material.

The reality is unless Edwards improves dramatically, he's no risk, therefore, no one is scared of him. Come on now. Haircut? House? You really think if the republicans were focusing all their energies on Edwards THAT is the best they could do?

[PoconoPragmatist]

103. You Implied It.

And yes...I DO think that is the best the Pubbies can do. They are scared shitless that a populist like Edwards will win! They know Edwards means the end of "Business As Usual." They know that Obama...and particularly Hillary, mean "Business As Usual" continues because either A - they get defeated or B - they have already sold their souls. And this PARTICULARLY applies to Hillary. That woman is damaged goods. I will work my ASS off to keep her from the nomination, because she will kill us! If she gets the nomination, I'll hold my nose and vote for her like a good Democrat, but don't expect me to be very excited about it.

[LSK]

31. K&R

[MilesColtrane]

39. I really like Edwards.

Unfortunately, barring a miracle (and many are praying for one), I don't think he'll still be in the race come November. ('08)

That wouldn't stop the GOP and mainstream media from still destroying him just for fun though.

[saltpoint]

41. Edwards represents a very real possibility of meaningful reform

in a top-down tax-cut society.

It's no wonder he's drawing fire from the Right.

Michael Harrington said the the poor are "politically invisible." And it makes Republicans pee their pants when someone shines a light on the invisible and brings them into view.

Edwards has given voice to those voiceless people all his life.

I'll be very proud to cast a vote for him in the primary.

[PoconoPragmatist]

65. Agreed.

I proudly cast my primary vote for Edwards in 2004...and I'll gladly do so again in 2008.

Welcome to Team Edwards!!

Edwards/Moore '08

[saltpoint]

67. Hi to you, PoconoPragmatist. Please forgive me -- I'm drawing a

blank on the Moore part of your equation.

Which Moore do you mean?

And thank you for the warm greeting.

[PoconoPragmatist]

78. I'll Fill In the Blank For You...

I'm talking about Michael Moore!!

Quite frankly...Edwards and Moore are totally speaking my language right now!!

I've been an Edwards supporter since 2003. I have decided to try to start a campaign to draft Michael Moore for VP. Not that I think it will work...or that he'd even accept the job. the main reason for it is to keep healthcare and poverty - the two issues I care most about (probably because I'm negatively impacted by both) FRONT AND CENTER.

hence, my closing off with Edwards/Moore '08

My way of keeping the healthcare issue front and center...in the way Edwards is keeping poverty front and center.

[saltpoint]

89. Ah. THAT Moore. Now I get it.

Sorry. I'm a bit slow on the draw sometimes.

[sniffa]

49. thanks for the tip

i wouLd have had no idea otherwise.

now i'LL start noticing that he's running. :bounce:

[Cha]

51. Long Beautiful Hair!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=385&topic_id=42958

[PoconoPragmatist]

55. Well I, For One, Do Not Like To See The Good Guy Fall, And Evil Triumph!!

Edwards/Moore '08

[B Calm]

58. I really think Edwards has the best chance of winning out of all

the politicians running. I hope Iowa sees it too....

[harun]

94. Me too, and I think Iowa will as well (n/t)

[draft_mario_cuomo]

62. Great article. The establishment and CMSM know Edwards is the biggest real threat to the status quo

They will stop at nothing to destroy him. The Chicago Tribune even ran an editorial last week about his haircut!

[Lifelong Protester]

66. Edwards is my choice

He is the only one talking about poverty and health care for all consistently, and he does not strike me as waiting to see which way the wind blows on these (or any other) issues like some Dems, mainly I'm thinking Hillary.

Doesn't hurt that he's a bit of a looker, didn't hurt JFK.

[wildbilln864]

70. K&R for Edwards! eom

[abq e streeter]

71. Funny, sad and too often true:

likening American voters to pre-pubescent teens. Edwards isn't perfect, but who is? I like him more and more all the time. He needs to go after the "haircut issue" (my god, how pathetic to even have to say those words)---and turn it to his advantage; something along the lines of laughing derisively at those who bring it up and belittling them for having to resort to that because they have nothing to say about the real issues he brings up. Sort of the flip side of Rovian hit 'em at their strength strategy ( I mean strategery)---bring up your own supposed weak point and mock those who try to make an issue of it. The day I knew Clinton would win in 92 was when I heard him mockingly repeat the Repub anti-Democrat mantra "tax and spend, tax and spend". It said I'm not going to cower in front of these assholes. That's the attitude we need more of from our " leaders".

[Greylyn58]

72. Edwards is my candidate

What I find interesting is how the media keeps pushing Hillary and Obama as the Dems most likely choice.

Why is that? Have you ever stopped to think about that? Why are we allowing the right-wing and the media to chose for us? His words are being thrown under the bus by the MSM because they are terrified of him. So all we ever hear is: he's rich, his expensive haircut, he's a lawyer.

Most politicians are lawyers. Jeez!!!

Both of Clinton and Obama have interesting messages, but Edwards speaks for me and I love Elizabeth.

I also agree that Hillary is Repug lite. She actually was a Repug before she met and married Bill. So it doesn't surprise me.

Edwards is my choice and nothing the media says will change that.

[JCMach1]

75. I love Edwards, but I cannot get past the IWR

I will persist with my displeasure in the primaries...

[Apollo11]

84. Edwards is the best of the current candidates

But I think Al Gore or Wes Clark would be even better - as a candidate, and as President.

That's why Edwards is my 3rd choice, after Gore and Clark.

I expect Wes Clark to announce his candidacy at the start of September.

I guess it's unlikely that Al Gore will run - but you never know.

I also like Obama for VP in 2008, and President in 2016.

I think CLARK-OBAMA would be a very strong ticket in 2008.

Especially on the issues of Iraq and National Security.

Gore, Clark and Obama all criticized the invasion of Iraq.

Edwards was wrong on Iraq up until November 2005.

It's not that I don't accept Edwards' apology for his IWR vote.

But I think it raises questions about his judgement.

:kick:

[JCMach1]

86. Exactly on the judgement thing...

I like everything about the guy... Right now, I am undecided but leaning towards Kucinich for the primaries unless Gore decides to jump in.

I also think Hillary is looking VERY STRONG as a candidate.

[KillCapitalism]

79. Yep, Edwards terrifies the corporatists and neoliberals.

I really want to see a populist like him be our next President. I also hope that he might pick Kucinich as his running mate, that would be one hell of a ticket!

[Manifestor_of_Light]

80. I'll go for Edwards or Dennis the Menace!!

RIGHT ON!!

[Lindsey]

82. Dream ticket #1-Gore/Clark - Dream ticket #2-Edwards/Clark -

The Repugs will do everything in their power to have Hillary the candidate. IMHO the number of people mobilized against her along with the media in tow is frightening. I've pretty much given up on Gore getting in and feel really good about Edwards (and, of course, Elizabeth).

[PoconoPragmatist]

104. Dream Ticket #3 - Edwards/Moore!!

n/t

[Kurovski]

81. K&R. (nt)

[GreenTea]

83. There's absolutely no doubt the republicans (and the DLC) want Johb Edwards out of the race ASAP!

Though I hold DK dearly, I also know that not only is John Edwards a fighter. The republicans want to run against who they believe they can beat much easier, than an excellent skilled charismatic politician with a great progressive platform as John Edwards...They are doing everything possible to destroy Edwards early and get him out of the race...

The republicans much prefer and like their odds running against an African-American or a woman. This is no slight to either, it's just quite obvious...Much the same way ALL republicans have been trashing Edwards from the very beginning....just as they did with Howard Dean in 2004...The republicans don't just sit around each and every day, they are busy and conniving and setting things up, it's to their benefit to make sure the weakest Democratic candidate is nominated and running against them...And Edwards would indeed kick republican ass and the republicans absolutely know it!!

President Edwards would be so great & progressive for our country!

[Ganja Ninja]

87. God help the Republican's if we ever get another ....

Kennedy-esq Democrat in the White House. Someone with charm, charisma and good looks fighting for the poor and middle class against their money grubbing corporate masters. Someone who can win over their bamboozled base like Roosevelt did during the great depression. It would mean another 40 or 50 years in the wilderness for the GOP if not it's total demise.

[femrap]

91. I wish Edwards would stop saying

the word, 'poverty,' and instead focus on the GREED. I wish he would hammer away at the people who on one hand call themselves Christians yet don't share with others less fortunate. These greedy people need to be shamed. The billionaires and the GREEDY CORPORATIONS need to be called upon for their part in creating this poverty.

Of course if Edwards does that, he would be biting the hand that feeds him....right? But it sure would fire up WE, THE PEOPLE.

Edwards needs to say to the Corporations, as did FDR: "I WELCOME YOUR HATRED."

That's what this country needs. Stop meandering around the 'bush' and tell it like it is....THE GREED HAS TO STOP...ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

[The Traveler]

102. You hit a target

The "greed is good" meme must be countered. To put in the language of the Christian base of the Republican Party, "Greed has been identified as one of the seven deadly sins. How, therefore, can greed be said to be good?"

The corporatist philosophy has damn little to do with the ethical basis of Christianity ... creating a fault line in the structure of the current Republican party. Edwards has an opportunity to put considerable pressure on that fault line.

This could be an effective political strategy ... but is also the moral thing to do, the right thing to do. It is time that government stop acting on behalf of the greedy, and start acting on the behalf of the American people as a whole.

[femrap]

105. I sent the Edwards campaign

an email on the topic...sure would be nice if he or one of his staff picked up on it.

I am so sick and tired of the Greed. I always have 2 signs in the trunk of my car...never know when one will run into a good Protest or Demonstration. One is 'War is a Racket' and the other 'Atone for the Greed.' I have fake paper money taped on both of the signs.

[focusfan]

92. I'm happy the repukes are scared

they need to be scared i hope if John Edwards get elected he
will clean up Bush's Mess and make this place better.:dem: