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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 04:39 PM
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seasoned Gore defenders, please help
I am coming to the defense of Gore on another board against someone who called him a hypocrite. (

I'm not an Al Gore pro, and don't have time to become one this afternoon, but I think it's important to shut up Global Warming deniers and their ilk. I'm sure some of you have encountered the following many times, so what's the truth wrt:

Quote: (and btw, the following quote is not from the person I'm debating, he's actually not even a freeper, just someone who thinks he sees hypocrisy. the quote is lifted from some web site full of anti-gore quotes:http://www.martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/nov2006/heats_up.ht... )

So why, then, didn't Gore dump his family's large stock holdings in Occidental (Oxy) Petroleum? As executor of his family's trust, over the years Gore has controlled hundreds of thousands of dollars in Oxy stock. Oxy has been mired in controversy over oil drilling in ecologically sensitive areas.

....
but Gore's home in Carthage is sitting on a zinc mine. Gore receives $20,000 a year in royalties from Pasminco Zinc, which operates a zinc concession on his property. Tennessee has cited the company for adding large quantities of barium, iron and zinc to the nearby Caney Fork River.


(his words to me):
I'm just saying put your money where your mouth is. How can you not see the hypocrisy in this???
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 04:46 PM
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1. don't bother
these things have been circulated and rebutted endlessly

you are debating with someone who wants to believe them. it's pointless.

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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 04:48 PM
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2. Here's the info:
http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/8/17/133652/848

First things first: I talked to some of Gore's people today, including Kreider, about the specific charges. Suffice to say, they're false. Gore receives no royalties from the mine, which shut down in 2003. (USA Today actually printed a correction about this, way down on page 10A.) Gore owns no stock in Occidental, and never has (his father did; it was all sold over six years ago). Gore does in fact take advantage of the green power options his utility offers, and was in the process of adding photovoltaic solar cells to his house when the article came out. He pays for his own personal carbon offsets, in addition to the institutional offsets purchased by Paramount (movie distributor) and Rodale (book publisher), which make both the book and the movie completely carbon neutral.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 05:20 PM
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4. Thanks!
I posted the article.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 04:50 PM
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3. the 1ST RULE OF DEBATE IS
What is the source?

Always remember that.

Sourcing is the key always.
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