************OFFICIAL THREAD 21 FOR SENATE VOTE LEVIN REED AMENDMENT.

[bdamomma]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1366596

THREAD 19 HERE.

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[soothsayer]

1. i think yer a dupe!

[LSK]

2. please put "they are voting now" in topic

[Chichiri]

3. Yay Amy

I love her big loud "Aye!" just now.

[LSK]

4. this will not pass

:(

[karlrschneider]

5. I'm afraid you're right

:-(

[bdamomma]

9. well it just started right the voting.

and if it doesn't pass it will show the American people who the obstructionists really are, but these repigs are giving more and more power to *. very bad indeed. We may have to rise for the occasion.

[Virginia Dare]

15. That's exactly right alyce...n/t

[Virginia Dare]

12. They didn't expect it to..

but they wanted the Repukes on record as voting against this, it's going to look bad for them politically. That's why they didn't even want it to come to a vote.

[TwilightGardener]

16. No, and they all know it. Sad. The war could start to end today--history

is in their hands, if some Repub Senators had a conscience.

[Virginia Dare]

25. Hagel appears to be about the only one who does right now..n/t

[TwilightGardener]

108. Yes--he was a grunt rifleman in Vietnam, not even an officer--

he knows what it's like to get shot at and blown up for nothing.

[alfredo]

40. Our military will be crippled come March. It will not be able to sustain

enough troop levels to fight bush's war. Will he continue driving them into the ground?

[TwilightGardener]

46. He couldn't care less about our military. They're merely tools to him.

[bdamomma]

54. they are crippled already with Brain injuries and PTSD,

these filthy repigs and * are abusing our troops. God, how much power are they going to give to Lord Pissypants, this has got to stop.

[Chichiri]

6. I hate Republicans.

I really do. I really, really do.

[porphyrian]

11. I'll second that hatred, and vote that we double down. - n/t

[bdamomma]

29. they are screwing themselves. go ahead go right off that cliff

you filthy men. Where is that list Larry Flynt has??????

[Jack Bone]

7. I don't think so either...

[DesertRat]

8. I can't hear most of the votes.....where's the running tally?

[IChing]

14. No....I can't hear some of the votes either

:shrug:

[comtec]

10. isnt a simple majority needed?

that is 51 votes?

[harun]

20. It is to end the filibuster so it needs 60 (n/t)

[ticapnews]

13. I can't hear how most of them are voting, but it seems like this will fail..

We only had a handful of Republicans who were going to vote with us and we needed 10.

I think Harry should hold the Senate in session until the Republicans run out of wind.

[TwilightGardener]

19. They'r only starting to vote now.

[Chichiri]

22. Fucking Lieberman votes no

So much for nonpartisanship, asshole.

[Virginia Dare]

32. He gave a speech that any neocon would be proud of yesterday..

what a twerp he is..:puke:

[ticapnews]

GOP on our side: Collins, Hagel, Smith, Snowe

Didn't make it to 60

[TwilightGardener]

33. Good on them, and Collins especially. She was wobbly.

[MrMickeysMom]

38. Don't we need 10 of them?

[bdamomma]

17. call the repigs offices and say thanks alot for listening to the American

people, :sarcasm:

[EFerrari]

30. At least three of them mentioned Code Pink as if they were

the enemy "wandering the halls" of Congress.

[blogslut]

18. this is the cloture vote, right?

?

[TwilightGardener]

21. Yes

[harun]

24. Correct (n/t)

[Norquist Nemesis]

23. Byrd voted No?

wow

[karlrschneider]

35. I wonder if he was confused...

:wtf:

[Chichiri]

57. I think at least one of the dems had to

So that they could bring up a motion to reconsider if need be.

[bdamomma]

59. why did he vote NO?

[Norquist Nemesis]

160. Sounds like it may have been to preserve procedural ability to bring up again

Reid changed his vote to No for that reason. Since Byrd's Senate Parliamentarian (or whatever it's called), it seems the most logical explanation...That way, should anything happen to Reid, Byrd can still bring it forward.

[karlrschneider]

26. 54 aye 34 no as of now

...

[TwilightGardener]

27. Coburn Lieberworm no.

[malta blue]

31. Damn that LIEberman.

[MrMickeysMom]

28. So far, it sounds like there are 52 "yea"

right?

[Wednesdays]

37. When they first announced the roll, it was 52-32

It depends on the votes since then

[DesertRat]

39. 53 now.....

[trashcanistanista]

43. If t doesn't pass cloture

they should debate it again tonight and keep dragging it into into he August recess. It is close right now.

[MrMickeysMom]

49. ABSO-FUCKING-LUTELY!

Ii couldn't agree more.

[Chichiri]

62. Agreed, but the dems don't have THAT much balls.

Sigh.

[Chichiri]

63. Agreed, but the dems don't have THAT much balls.

Sigh.

[Purveyor]

34. Rough tally of 52 - aye 37 - no

She read back the votes so quickly this may not be totally accurate but close.

[Purveyor]

53. It's over 40 - NAY.

[ticapnews]

36. We'll end up with 54-56 votes and will not reach cloture.

[TwilightGardener]

41. Yup. Nelson AYE! Good, I won't have to personally kick his ass.

[karlrschneider]

42. I get it at 53 to 37 right now

...

[MrMickeysMom]

45. Republicans with NO BALLS

They will pay

They are disgusting beyond belief.

[bdamomma]

44. oh, I hate this

we got 52 ayes, and we need 60 that is BS, majority vote for majority rule it should be.

[Chichiri]

52. The alternative is the "nuclear option"

which would have pretty much destroyed us before we took control of Congress. (For all the good it's done us.) And if we nuke them, we would regret it down the road, I guarantee.

[cureautismnow]

87. Tough call.

It may hurt us down the road, but it might save American lives NOW. What to do, what to do... :shrug:

[ticapnews]

47. Both NH Senators voted No

Time to show them the door.
http://www.stevemarchand.com/

[TwilightGardener]

50. Sununu--spineless wanker.

[TwilightGardener]

48. Grassley no--I hate him. Have I ever told you guys that?

[Deb]

51. Up to 41 in the negative n/t

:-(

[karlrschneider]

55. That's what I get too...now 42 with Spector

:grr:
edit: correction...was Hutchison

[harun]

70. Nice one Specter, way to vote against about 95% of your constituents

[TwilightGardener]

114. I'm originallly from PA, and I know that my fellow Pennsylvanians

can see through the bullshit of the war. But they keep putting folks like Specter in office. That's the red area between Philly and Pittsburgh talking, I guess.

[ticapnews]

56. Magic Bullet Boy votes No

[TwilightGardener]

58. Specter no--asshole.

[bdamomma]

66. Specter, he is a waste of time too.

they refuse to listen to us, now, is that our line in the sand.

[TwilightGardener]

60. Warner and Lugar vote yet?

[trashcanistanista]

Lugar was a no.

[Inuca]

71. Yes, they did.

No & no.

[Jack Bone]

72. Lugar NO...Warner NO

[TwilightGardener]

Fucking old farts. They can go to hell.

[bdamomma]

92. Lugar

walking the walking and not talking the talk, these guys have to hear it from their constituents. I don't know but we need to do something to WAKE THESE FUCKS UP NOW.

They act all high and mighty, and do not give a shit about the American people, yes, I am angry. Enough is enough.

[Jack Bone]

134. I called his office around 9:30 this am..

and I got the answering machine that told me, office hours are from 7am to 5pm Monday -Friday...so I left a message asking him to support Levin/Reed..left my name,address & Tele # as well, as a constituent...he'll send me some form letter in the mail in about 3 weeks...like he always does...

[Virginia Dare]

119. Warner announced last night he would vote no..

gave a circular argument about soldiers not dieing in vain or some shit. He's useless.

[MrMickeysMom]

61. fucking specter

I FUCKING HATE YOU, ARLEN SPECTER.

:spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank:

SINGLE BULLET THEORY ASSHOLE MOTHERFUCKER.

I'm calling your Goddamn office now. Excuse me while I kick his ass,

[TwilightGardener]

64. You are excused...

[cureautismnow]

65. Lieberman and the "No" Repukes...

Should immediately be shipped to Iraq for an INDEFINITE period of time. Let them personally "win" the victory. :mad:

[blondeatlast]

76. Watch how FEW will go there now on photo-op trips.

Let's see how well their surge is working by how many go to Iraq after this. I'm sure the soldiers wiould love to have them... :mad:

[TwilightGardener]

91. Gee, they should be so PROUD of what they accomplished today!

[TwilightGardener]

67. Voinobitch--a giant wussy NO

[Chichiri]

68. After this vote . . .

. . . can we expect Harry to just deliver another republicans-suck-oh-well-lets-move-on-to-something-else speech?

[TwilightGardener]

73. Like after the immigration bill failed?

[tridim]

74. I think they should arrest Meirs the second it fails. nt

[trashcanistanista]

77. final

52 to 47. Motion to reconsider by Reid.

[Chichiri]

80. Yep, looks like it. :-(

[shireen]

69. clarify?

a "no" vote on cloture means that they want to keep debate open indefinitely (in effect, killing it), or does it mean the amendment will not go to vote?

[bdamomma]

82. Reid should not back down.

[bdamomma]

75. Start calling the Repigs offices and tell them off.

Really they need to hear from us.

[ticapnews]

78. Wow. That was worse than I thought 52-47

[MiniMe]

85. It was actually 53-46

Reid had to vote not so he could bring it up again

[ticapnews]

90. 53, if you count Reid, who changed his vote so he could move to reconsider.

[LSK]

79. 52-47 failed

[karlrschneider]

83. Absolutely shameful.

God damn the no voters to hell.
:grr:

[tridim]

89. No need to damn them there..

They'll be catching lots of hell from their constituency over the recess. Idiots.

[EVDebs]

88. Is this the Senate record of the vote count ?

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00251

[ticapnews]

95. No. That was to instruct the SAA to go round people up.

The roll call is not up yet.

[LSK]

118. no

[MiniMe]

81. Understood that Harry voted no for a reason

If he wants to bring it up in the future he has to vote no now. So nobody freak out

[trashcanistanista]

86. Yes,

He needs to put it back up NOW.

[MrMickeysMom]

97. He had to vote NO for this?

in order to bring it up again?

[TwilightGardener]

100. Yes, it preserves the right to re-introduce.

[TwilightGardener]

84. Harry's not going to let this die without some final words. Good on him--he did his best.

[MrMickeysMom]

93. His best would be to return to voting in this again and again and...

again... and
again... and
again... and
again... and
again... and
again... and
again... and
again... and
again... and
again... and
again... and
again... and
again... and
again... and
again... and
again... and AGAIN!

[IChing]

96. He said we will continue this fight

Harry makes me proud today for what he has done

[TwilightGardener]

98. Yes. His heart was really in this.

[Virginia Dare]

123. I'm going to go ballistic today..

if I see any threads about do nothing Democrats. NOW do people understand WE DONT HAVE THE GODDAMN VOTES!!.

[TwilightGardener]

132. Oh, I'm sure the Dem-bashing will be full-scale by tonight.

[BlackVelvet04]

157. The whole point is they have to at least try....

now everyone knows who is forcing the war to continue. The Democrats needed to take a significant stand and they did.

[bdamomma]

102. I hope he gives it the repigs. disgusting bunch these repigs are

this decision will bite them on the a$$.

[Chichiri]

Uh, Harry? They deserve more than a debate.

They deserve a fucking revolution.

[bdamomma]

116. yes, from us, and maybe then they will know that

WE ARE AWAKE!!!

[Lasher]

94. These threads are moving just a tad faster than the ones at 4 AM

Just dragging my bones back out of bed.

[Jack Bone]

99. Sen. Biden said that he'd present his speech after the vote was taken..

could that mean that the majority leader keep this open?

[alfredo]

101. MSNBC headline: Senate Democrats fail to get enough votes to pass Iraq troop-pullout bill

to get enough votes to pass Iraq troop-pullout bill That's bullshit, the Republicans blocked a vote on ending the war.

[blondeatlast]

103. CONGRESS fails--this had bipartisan support. GRRRRRRR... nt

[alfredo]

146. The banner is down, a page with a better headline is now up.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19797695/

Senate Republicans defeat Iraq withdrawal bill
Democrats fail to get 60 votes needed to advance Iraq troop reduction bill

[bdamomma]

106. oh fuck watch the spin now

the media is a culprit as much as this regime is. they can go to hell.

[MrMickeysMom]

113. That's what I told Spector's office. He can go to Hell...

... I don't see any evidence of an acuragte news force getting it right either, So, they can pound sand up their asses.

[Virginia Dare]

121. REPUBLICANS OBSTRUCT PASSAGE OF TROOP PULLOUT..

that should be the fucking headline. :grr: :grr: :grr:

[mzmolly]

124. Indeed. Republicans now own this war along with their daddy.

:(

[mzmolly]

127. So it looks like OUR failure vs. theirs? BULLSHIT!

We need to start letting the media have it when we see this shit.

[LSK]

130. at least it shows that the Dems are trying

[Virginia Dare]

137. They can do nothing until the Republicans stop obstructing..

they seem to be prepared to start wearing them down publicly. Make them run to their chimpboy instead of away from him. This is a good move.

[MrMickeysMom]

104. Oh, Blow it out your ass, Mitch!

you fucking ass.

"Of course, it's going to take 60 votes"... only if you're afraid of being wrong, which you ARE.

[blondeatlast]

107. If he did, he'd no longer exist. Therefore...

I heartily echo your sentiments. :rofl:

[GenDem]

109. Get you fat ass over to Iraq McConnell

and put on that 100 pound pack and walk up and down a hostile street in 100 degree heat.

Fucker!

[alfredo]

145. I just wrote him to let him know how I feel about continuing

bush's war.

[Snarkoleptic]

105. Casblanca? Can this ass-clown be any more irrelevant?

More smoke 'em out crap.
Boo Hoo..had to stay up all night.

[blondeatlast]

110. Gad--the first damn thing out of his blowhole. Idjit. Worthless bag of methane. Ugh. nt

[bdamomma]

111. after you gave yourselves a raise, that is all that matters to these

filthy repigs. Shit, enough is enough.

[MrMickeysMom]

115. and, let's not forget, they're doing their best to give 3.5% raise to troops!

:puke:

[atreides1]

159. Are They?

It was my understanding that the Emperor feels that the troops get enough pay and was against giving them the 3.5% raise. So, if the Emperor is against the pay raise for the troops, then his puppet minions in the congress will likely vote against it as well.

After all we know that according to McCain you can't go against the wishes of a "president" in time of war.

[EVDebs]

112. The military industrial complex, "a beautiful friendship", eh ?

Rick: Louis, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship. ...

Luke 9 : 5 is the only thing that gets through to *'s base

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=41628&mesg_id=41668

[IChing]

117. "Obstruction over Progress" is the Republicans neck tie.

Obstruction of justice
Obstruction of subpoenas
Obstruction of voting rights
Obstruction, Obstruction, Obstruction

Which will lead to destruction

[bdamomma]

120. this is totally disgusting, what they are doing to us our troops and

to the people in Iraq, I guess the bodies are piled up high enough yet. This has got to stop, and what makes me even angrier is they are not listening to us, treating us like children, saying things like we know the American people are frustrated, frustrated shit we invaded an innocent country. Sickening.

[MrMickeysMom]

122. What is the next step for us?

[IChing]

131. This is gonna get testy with these tired Republicans

tempers and emotions will fly today more than yesterday.

Harry needs to take this to round 15 today.

[TwilightGardener]

133. Good--fuck 'em--hope they're not allowed to take the rest of the day off.

[TwilightGardener]

125. Arlen Specter--the time to have the "showdown" with Bush was in May--

not now. He and Reid are fighting.

[MrMickeysMom]

126. Speaking for Arlen Specter, he is a collasal waste of protoplasm!

Go FUCK YOURSELF, Arlen!

[crappyjazz]

128. Specter thinks debate on war is undignified?

Has a little hissy fit when Reid interrupts :rofl:

Woops, not Hatch, Specter

[TwilightGardener]

129. It's undignified to challenge the Preznit. Dignity is just bending over and

spreading your cheeks, according to Repubs.

[crappyjazz]

135. I've always wondered why McCain walks like that

:)

[harun]

136. I just emailed his office, suggest any other PA DU'rs do as well(n/t)

[MrMickeysMom]

143. Done... after all he's my senior collosal waste of time Senator!

[harun]

162. Mine too, hope he gets lots of email like that today

I think that is one of the reasons he seemed so ticked at Harry Reed. He knows he is going to take a lot of heat back home for this. Unfortunately he didn't just do what the people of his state want, he did what Bush wants him to do.

[nini]

138. the tone of this woman's voice reminds me of Richmeister

Making copies.....




:D

[TwilightGardener]

140. LOL! You're right--"May-kin' Cop-iiiiiiesss!"

[nini]

144. She's the speakerattolah

:rofl:

I'm glad it's not just me that can hear that.

[cui bono]

139. Just woke up... are they still going? n/t

[TwilightGardener]

141. Naw, they're off of Iraq--higher-education bill vote now.

[cui bono]

142. WTF??? Really?

Caved again?

[ticapnews]

147. The roll call

http://senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00252

Grouped By Vote Position

YEAs ---52
Akaka (D-HI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Hagel (R-NE)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lincoln (D-AR)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Obama (D-IL)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reed (D-RI)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schumer (D-NY)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Tester (D-MT)
Webb (D-VA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)


NAYs ---47
Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burr (R-NC)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coleman (R-MN)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
Martinez (R-FL)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Reid (D-NV)*
Roberts (R-KS)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Specter (R-PA)
Stevens (R-AK)
Sununu (R-NH)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)

Not Voting - 1
Johnson (D-SD)

Reid's vote was procedural, so he could move the question again at a later time.

[MrMickeysMom]

148. Stay alive, Sen Robert Byrd

Or give the best speech of your life before dying on the Senate floor...

I'M LISTENING!

[crappyjazz]

149. God damn he cracks me up

PAY ATTENTION! :rofl:

[Gregorian]

150. I love him, but he is freaking me out a bit. Now he's pointing at ME!

Haha.

[MrMickeysMom]

151. Just the fact that he's behind the podium and saying this is gonna give the wing nuts

a laugh.

He's too polite to Arlen Specter.

Hey Specter, go fuck yourself!

[crappyjazz]

152. Oh get the hell over it Specter

I was rudely interrupted ... excuse my language but

SHUT THE FUCK UP

[IChing]

153. Specter is getting personal to Harry

complaining about he doesn't speak for the people of Pennsylvania.

[crappyjazz]

154. May I respectfully suggest that we need #22?

[Snarkoleptic]

155. Arlen Speculum...

Boo Hoo, I had to stay up all night.
Also, did he just imply that the majority of his constituents are OK with 'stay the course"?
Guess we'll see during the next election cycle.

[bdamomma]

161. yea, I hope his constituents give it to him

geez, he was rude about the whole thing saying the debate was a waste of time, I guess all those who are dying does not matter to this jerk either. How disgusting he is.

[LSK]

156. how about a new post vote thread?

Specter is crying right now

:rofl:

[LSK]

158. new thread up