Police Arrest Teen In Case Of Newborn Girl Found In Trash Bin

[Sequoia]

Police arrested a teenage girl Tuesday in connection with the discovery of a full-term newborn found Monday in a restroom at a Denny's restaurant in Anaheim.

The 17-year-old girl was charged with child abuse and neglect, according to Anaheim police. The child is in protective custody, according to the department.

A call for "medical aid" went out at about noon from the restaurant at 1168 W. Katella Ave. A woman who found the infant was instructed by a dispatcher to take the baby out of the trash and make sure she was breathing, said Anaheim police Sgt. Rick Martinez.

"A person walked into the restroom, saw blood, and noticed movement in the trash can," Martinez said.

http://www.knbc.com/news/13691986/detail.html?dl=mainclick

What the hell is wrong with that girl!!

[Madspirit]

1. It's called the Immoral Republican's law..."parental consent:"

Teenagers get very very scared. Of all the people who NEED the unimpeded right to choice it's teenage girls. ...but noooooooooooooo.

Lee

[aikoaiko]

11. I don't like parental consent for abortions either, but hopefully she'll spend the rest of her ...

...fertile years in prison if she really did abandon her baby in a trash can.

[Madspirit]

18. Thankfully, you don't make the laws

I'm sorry but the sentence for this crime is NOT anywhere near life in prison. Jesus wept man. The baby is alive. The average sentence for murder, in this country, (go check DOJ stats yourself), is 12-15 years.

YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT SHE MIGHT HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH AND NEITHER DOES THE EVER MORALISTIC AND SIMPLISTIC OMC, NOR DO I.

When you've walked a mile in her moccasins, do let me know.

Lee

[aikoaiko]

21. Sorry Madspirit - Unless someone had a gun to her head, there isn't much of an excuse

for dropping your baby in the trash. Was she scared? Probably. But so what. Lots of crimes of committed in the state of fear and desperation. They are still crimes.

What could she possibly be going through that would justify this? What? Scared of her parents? Scared of God? Numb? Anger at her boyfriend? Hatred to someone who may have raped her? Did she think the trashcan was a hospital bassinet? Did she think the trashcan was a firehouse drop off station?

She didn't want it -- and she didn't care if it lived or died. Its really pretty simple.

My sentencing recommendation was more sarcastic than literal -- in a perfect world she wouldn't get a second chance to do this another baby , hence my recommendation that she stay in prison until she's no longer fertile. So how about 25 years -- not life?

[Madspirit]

25. How about some psychiatric help instead.

As I said, murderers get 12-15 years, according to the Department of Justice. She could have had a psychotic break, dissociated, who knows. YOU don't. I don't.
Lee

[Mandate My Ass]

28. Yeah but those are men.

So much for enforced pregnancy and the sanctity of life. The freeps who are so worried that an embryo might feel something during a legal abortion are guaranteeing that fully-developed newborns will be found in trash cans everywhere.

[CreekDog]

37. That baby was probably hours away from dying

If the girl had her way, the baby would be dead.

[Madspirit]

42. ...but the baby isn't dead. Live in reality...n/t

[Madspirit]

30. Lastly, NO, I am not willing to throw away another child's life

...and as the baby is fine, I bet you she doesn't spend a second in prison. I hope not. She needs some therapy and some help and some support.
Lee

[aikoaiko]

58. Cute, "not willing to throw away another child's life" who literally threw away a child

Maybe with a little therapy she can be a good mama.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

33. She Was Going Through Immaturity, Selfishness And Utter Stupidity.

In the process, she almost murdered an innocent newborn baby.

Must we ALWAYS have to assume out of the gate that there was some "oh the poor mother was a victim! Poor poor her!" excuse every single fucking time?

Give me a break. Sometimes, people simply do horrible and terrible things. Sometimes, yes, sometimes, even women do. Please learn to accept that someday.

[Madspirit]

39. Yawn...n/t

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

45. Yes. The Attempted Murder Of A Newborn Baby By Throwing It In The Garbage Is Quite The Yawner.

I don't know how your perception can be as monumentally skewed as has been shown here.

I feel for you. I really do.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

15. Can You Provide Evidence Of This In This Case? Evidence Matters. Thanks.

[Quantess]

19. Bu conversely, can a parent....

forbid their teen daughter from carrying the fetus to term? As in, forcing their daughter to get an abortion? I don't know, that's why I'm asking.

[Madspirit]

20. I Hope Not

I don't think parents can force a girl to have an abortion or even give it up for adoption. It is her body.
Lee

[Warpy]

2. Giving birth alone in a restroom is enough to freak anybody out

Add to that the fact that she's only 17 and cut her a little slack. We don't know what her home life is like, especially her religious home life. We don't know what relationship, if any, she had with the baby's father.

We don't know the whole story here. Yes, a reasonable and prudent woman would have taken the baby into a hospital and had them call social services to set up an adoption. However, this was no woman and she had to be terrified, to say the least.

I'm just glad somebody else found the baby quickly.

[Bluebear]

4. And then to return to her Grand Slam breakfast!

Can you imagine the horror? I am with you, thank goodness the baby was found.

[Madspirit]

8. I didn't read that part

Kind of cold. A little sociopath in the making or just someone who is dissociating. We really can't know until we hear more.

Lee

[Warpy]

10. Have you ever given birth?

My bet's on dissociation.

[Madspirit]

12. That's what I think too

Probably dissociating. If she was really a sociopath or immoral rather than freaked, she would have split.
Lee

[Bluebear]

14. She was visiting from Indiana with the family...

I am guessing baby decided to arrive during breakfast, she freaked out, couldn't get away from the family and the boyfriend, obviously, so she panicked and had the baby and abandoned it. Can you imagine?

What she did was wrong but who knows what kind of situation she is in.

[EFerrari]

13. Yep. God knows it took me a few days to crawl back into my body

both times.

Poor babies, both of them. And what is up with that family?

I once read that there are no orphans in wild dog packs. Too bad we can't do as well. :(

[ikojo]

27. Something like this happened when I was in

college. It was the fall of 1981 and a girl in an all female dorm gave birth and threw her baby down the garbage chute. She was from the Chicago suburbs and afraid of what her parents would do if they found out she was pregnant. We had heard that her parents would have pulled her out of school if she had sex. Oh well, I think she got worse than getting pulled out of school. I don't know what happened after her baby was discovered.

Kids freak out because they just don't know. Sure there are some laws that say you can drop off your baby at a firehouse or a police station with no consequences but how many 17 year olds know this. Most of the time those things are discussed on the news and most teenagers do not watch the news.

[CrispyQ]

3. Doesn't CA have a law where the mother can take the baby to a fire station,

without recrimination?

Such a tragic situation. What she did was wrong, but I can't begin to know how desperate she was.

[melody]

5. A firestation, police station, hospital, anywhere similar

We still have abandoned infants here, but there are as many that are turned over to "no questions
asked" locations.

[Bluebear]

6. She is from Indiana, visiting Disneyland with her parents & boyfriend

The police found her outside the restaurant with the parents and boyfriend, there must be denial going on all around in that family. Very very sad.

[Madspirit]

9. We even have that in Texas, so Cal. must...n/t

[The Straight Story]

16. Yeah we have it here, one was turned in last week - and given back later

Was on the local bakersfiled news, kget I think (did not happen in Bakersfield but in a surrounding area).

[BlooInBloo]

7. sheesh. Sad all around.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

17. I'm Amazed At How Selfish And Mind Numbingly Stupid Some 17yr Olds Are.

My god what an idiot she is.

[proud patriot]

22. We have an drop off program here in Calif to avoid this stuff

this shouldn't have happened . :grr:

She could have taken the infant to an emergency room
and walked away w/o fear of persecution.

[LisaL]

23. I don't understand how anybody else didn't notice the 17 year

old was pregnant.

[Minimus]

24. post-birth abortion

[ikojo]

26. She was frightened and didn't know what else

to do. If the 17 year old was large then there is a possibility that her mom may not have known she was pregnant. I don't think what this girl did was right, but remember she probably got pregnant at 16.

This is what happens in a country where kids are not given REAL sexuality education. They have the parts that are telling them FEED ME. They do "it" and some get pregnant when all they wanted to do was satisfy their body's urges.

[Madspirit]

29. Kind of a "DUH"

Unless her parents said, "Go to the bathroom, give birth and then dump the baby in the trash", she was OBVIOUSLY hiding it from her parents. Hmmm...now why would a 17 year old girl want to hide her pregnancy from her parents? Gee....

Parental consent laws are immoral and there will be much more of this happening. I promise.
Lee

[Bluebear]

31. N.H. 1st state to repeal parental notice abortion law

CONCORD, N.H. --With his signature Friday, Gov. John Lynch made New Hampshire the first state to repeal a law requiring parental notification for teenagers to get abortions.

The repeal took effect immediately.

"I strongly believe parents should be involved in these decisions, providing important support and guidance," said Lynch. "Unfortunately that is not possible in every case. The Supreme Court found this law unconstitutional because it fails to protect the health and safety of all women, which is why I am signing its repeal."

http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2007/06/29/nh_1st_state_to_repeal_parental_notice_abortion_law/

==

I am more and more proud of my little state!

[Madspirit]

32. That is FANTASTIC.

You have every reason to be proud of your little state.
Lee

[Bluebear]

35. Lynch is a wise man. "Unfortunately that is not possible in every case."

That is so true and says it all.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

34. Hiding It Is One Thing. Trying To Kill A Newborn Baby Out Of Utter Selfishness Is Quite Another.

Please stop confusing the two. They are quite different and distinguishable from each other.

[Madspirit]

41. Do you have any idea

Do you have any idea how LITTLE a grown MAN'S opinion about a 17 year old pregnant girl means to me?
Less than nothing.
Lee

[Madspirit]

43. ...and the reason

The reason I usually assume there is a reason is because there usually is a reason people do things unless you are a shallow moron.
Lee

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

44. That Statement From You Shows How Absolutely Warped Your Perception On This Is.

This is about an immature, selfish and cold hearted girl who just tried to murder an innocent newborn baby for likely the only reason being that she didn't want to face the consequences. Her behavior is condemnable and I think it shows quite readily how unable you are to objectively look at these things based on the fact that every time it happens, it ALWAYS has to be because the woman was some poor poor victim who should be hugged or something. Give me a break. She just tried to MURDER a newborn baby!!! WAKE UP FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!

Do you have any idea how absolutely absurd your defenses of her look to almost everybody?

[Madspirit]

48. :rofl:

Read again...not so accurate... :rofl: but delude yourself all you want. It's how you live. You are shallow and simple-minded. I'm sorry for that.
Lee

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

51. Yes, Yes, I See It Now. It Was Just An Innocent Newborn Baby. Who Cares!!!!!

Yes! I see your deep rooted and objective wisdom now! Oh thank you madspirit, for your wise wise perception on this issue.

I will preach to the masses that if you have a newborn baby, THROW IT AWAY!!!! It's ok!!!! Just as long as you were scared just a little of telling your parents, then your behavior is excused!!!! Hey, hey, next Tuesday, let's have a throw your baby in the trash day! Everybody, join on in, it'll be a riot!!

Know what? Some things are worthy of debate. Other times, there is a position so insane, distasteful and misguided, that debating it is unnecessary as the ignorance stands out on its own without need for further exposure.

On that note, I'm done with you. Go defend her all you want. Ain't no one gonna take the sentiment seriously anyway.

Nite.

[CreekDog]

38. Her desire to avoid shame was greater than her shame in committing a murder

And folks think we should give her a break?

Sheesh.

[Madspirit]

40. What the fuck makes you think

What the fuck makes you think her father wouldn't have beaten the crap out of her. You have NO IDEA what the situation was and neither do I but she didn't tell her parents for SOME REASON.

...but go be an OMC. I really don't give a fuck. Let me know when you become pregnant.
Lee

[Bluebear]

47. Oh is THAT who you were talking to?

See? Ignore is your friend!

[Madspirit]

49. Yup...Mr. Deep as an empty well...

He is now on Ignore. He is a thorn in everyone's side.
Lee

[CreekDog]

36. The baby was the victim here, not the mother who threw the baby in the TRASH

Threw the baby in the trash.

Even if the baby is fine, there should be charges. Is that considered attempted murder?

[Bluebear]

46. Of course she did the wrong thing. But being progressives, we are asking WHY

How did this happen, and what could have prevented it? What are the parental notification laws in her state? Why was she afraid to tell her boyfriend and parents what was going on?

None of that interests you?

[Madspirit]

50. EXACTLY!

Why was she afraid to tell her parents. EXACTLY!

Some here are quite shallow.
Lee

[Forkboy]

52. Stop making sense.

:spank:

[Madspirit]

53. Hi Forkboy!

Thank-you. I love the empty-headed garbage producers around here, who think about nothing, question nothing and think they actually know something.

How are you doing Forkboy?
Lee

[CreekDog]

54. Pardon me, I'll ask why after I get over what she did to her baby

How many mothers out there would do this to their baby because they were in fear?

[Madspirit]

57. Ummm

Her baby is OK. Her baby is just fine. She is the one who is not.
Lee

[hedgehog]

55. We have no idea what was going through this girl's mind.

As some one else noted, how could someone be that pregnant and no one notice; let alone someone going through a first time labor?

As for the comments above about abortion and parental notification, how does anyone here know that the girl ever admitted to herself that she was pregnant?

[Madspirit]

56. True too

She may have not even admitted it to herself. Good point. ...and dissociated after. Who knows.
Lee