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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 04:13 PM
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Enough about the GD flight attendant! REAL tragedy: Bush about to veto children's health insurance!
Covering no child's behind

Category: Health care Health insurance
Posted on: July 16, 2007 4:39 PM, by revere

Many Republicans and most Democrats in Congress seem to agree on at least one thing: President Bush is full of crap. Not about Iraq. Virtually all Republicans disagree with the rest of us on that. No, what they agree on is that the federal government should expand, not deep six, the Children's Health Insurance Program. 7.4 million children were covered at one time or another last year but it will expire on September 30. For 6 months a bipartisan group in the Senate Finance Committee has been crafting a compromise bill to cover the 8 million children in the US with no health insurance at all. For many Democrats it falls short but better than nothing. But "nothing" is what the Bush administration wants:

Tony Fratto, a White House spokesman, said: "The president?s senior advisers will certainly recommend a veto of this proposal. And there is no question that the president would veto it." (New York Times; hat-tip Tennessee Guerilla Women)

The bipartisan compromise would increase spending over the next five years to total $60 billion, reducing the number of uninsured children by 4.1 million. So what's wrong with it? The current Congress (Democrats) doesn't want to spend money it doesn't have so it will raise the money by increasing cigarette taxes. This will have the salutary effect of reducing smoking, saving even more money. But the Republicans and Democrats on the Finance Committee forgot to read the President's lips:

Mr. Fratto, the White House spokesman, said, Tax increases are neither necessary nor advisable to fund the program appropriately."



White House officials said the president had several other reasons to veto the bipartisan Senate plan.

"The proposal would dramatically expand the Children's Health Insurance Program, adding nonpoor children to the program, and more than doubling the level of spending," Mr. Fratto said. "This will have the effect of encouraging many to drop private coverage, to go on the government-subsidized program."

In addition, Mr. Fratto said, the Senate plan does not include any of Mr. Bush's proposals to change the tax treatment of health insurance, in an effort to make it more affordable for millions of Americans.

So no health insurance for uninsured children, even if paid for by people who are costing the rest of us money by their behavior. No health insurance for uninsured children, because the only people who should get government subsidies are friends of George W. and Dick Cheney. No health insurance for uninsured children, to protect the private health insurance industry.

I get it. I think we all get it.


http://scienceblogs.com/effectmeasure/2007/07/covering_...
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 04:14 PM
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1. K & R
They will pay.
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 04:24 PM
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2. If he vetos this it will simply be
more ammo for Tuesday's marathon Senate session.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 05:43 PM
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16. Correct
This needs to be spread all over.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 04:28 PM
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3. And this thread will sink like a rock...
but not if I can help it.

:kick:
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 04:29 PM
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4. K & R because this is important.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 04:35 PM
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7. But he WILL dare v eto it.
If enough GOP congresscritters won't vote to override the veto, they should be taken to task next year.

Fifth recommendation for the thread, by the way.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 05:29 PM
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15. I'm preparing a Letter to the Editor of our newspaper about this. Just waiting for him to do it.
This will be the gist of it. We have money for war, for killing adults and children, but not for healthcare for children.

"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron.

Dwight Eisenhower, April 16, 1953"

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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 04:32 PM
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5. K&R
Let's see the bastard DARE to veto this.

It would make the Republicans unelectable. Or it should.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 04:34 PM
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6. K&R.nt
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 04:42 PM
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8. K & R
"encouraging many people to drop private coverage, to go on the government-subsidized program." - Bullshit! :grr:
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 04:49 PM
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10. Bush never misses an opportunity to put greedy corporate profiteers over people's lives
Edited on Mon Jul-16-07 04:54 PM by PA Democrat
does he? For Bush, it's more important that health insurance CEO's not miss a single opportunity to make a profit, even if it means that a lot of kids will go without health care insurance, and thus without health care.

Oops. Edited because I forgot to use spell check.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 04:51 PM
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11. the greedy corporate profiteers are sucking at the public tit so much more
than 4 million poor children could ever possibly dream of.

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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 04:45 PM
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9. leave no child behind
right *? :grr:

:dem: :kick:
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 04:56 PM
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12. Kick
:kick:
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 05:03 PM
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13. He wouldn't dare!
Think about the children, Dubya!
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 05:25 PM
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14. kick
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 06:29 PM
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17. What flight attendant?
:shrug:

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 07:48 PM
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19. There have been thousands of views/posts about the baby on the airline
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 08:02 PM
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21. Thanks. Glad I missed them. :)
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 07:21 PM
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18. Just when you thought * couldn't get any lower
Vetoing CHIP is the lowest of the low. I certainly hope that they have enough votes to override this!
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 07:50 PM
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20. k&r...n/t
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 09:59 PM
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22. kickety kick. What a filthy legacy this blivet will leave behind...
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 12:22 PM
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23. shameful nt
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 04:08 PM
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24. K & R!
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 04:08 PM
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25. Oh, I had thought you meant the flight attendant who was murdered by the Christian nut
who thought he was doing God's work:

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4968717.html

and I was about to object that we had not heard enough about that.

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Dakini23 Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 04:25 PM
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26. kick
kick
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 04:27 PM
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27. Wow, for once I agree with Bush.
Edited on Tue Jul-17-07 04:29 PM by Clark2008
Hope that doesn't get me kicked off this board, but sin taxes are stupid and ensure that NO ONE will be insured. Price the sin out of the sinner's wallet and NO ONE gets JACK.

P.S. We should find other ways to provide health care for everyone, kids and adults alike. Everyone should pay. Not just those with an addiction. Hey - let's tax McDonald's purchases.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 04:28 PM
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28. Bush is about to veto the goddamn flight attendant? OMG!!!!
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 08:54 PM
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29. Kicking....
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