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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:43 PM
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BREAKING: Reid To Force All-Night Filibuster On Iraq Withdrawal
Edited on Mon Jul-16-07 01:45 PM by babylonsister
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/16/reid-filibuster /

BREAKING: Reid To Force All-Night Filibuster On Iraq Withdrawal


Moments ago, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) announced that in response to conservative obstructionism, he plans to force war supporters to physically remain in the Senate and filibuster Iraq withdrawal legislation.

Reid accused conservatives of protecting the President rather than protecting our troops by denying us an up or down vote on the most important issue our country faces. He said that if a vote on the Reed/Levin Iraq legislation is not allowed today or tomorrow, he will keep the Senate in session straight through the night on Tuesday and force a filibuster. From Reids speech:

Republicans are using a filibuster to block us from even voting on an amendment that could bring the war to a responsible end. They are protecting the President rather than protecting our troops.

They are denying us an up or down yes or no vote on the most important issue our country faces.

I would like to inform the Republican leadership and all my colleagues that we have no intention of backing down.

If Republicans do not allow a vote on Levin/Reed today or tomorrow, we will work straight through the night on Tuesday.

The American people deserve an open and honest debate on this war, and they deserve an up or down vote on this amendment to end it.


Reids announcement follows calls from OpenLeft, Firedoglake and others for Congress to call the conservatives bluff and force them to filibuster the Levin-Reed Iraq redeployment bill.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:43 PM
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1. Pack yer' jammies somebeeotches!
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:53 PM
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14. Don't forget your diapers too.
I know some of you won't.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 08:14 PM
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96. LOL nt
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 11:32 PM
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122. HaHa!!!
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:15 PM
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39. xultar, you made me lol
with that post :thumbsup:

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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 10:55 PM
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105. LOL
;)
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 01:34 PM
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177. Let's put itching powder in Mc Cain's sleeping bag!
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:44 PM
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2. What happens after Tuesday? n/t
I am watching MSNBC and did not see this!
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:00 PM
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29. I would suspect they will be turning to Contempt of Congress
charges against Harriet Miers.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:05 PM
Response to Reply #29
36. That's in the House, though. nt
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:44 PM
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3. See Jim Webb
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:45 PM
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4. the wheels they are a turning. I wonder if the Reid haters will even acknowledge this.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:24 PM
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42. I think that a lot of folks will wait and see. There have been too many
times in the past when everyone was cheering "Fighting" Harry only too be disappointed when the cave came. If the Democrats stick to this, then praise will be forthcoming, if they don't, well, it won't be the first time...
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:34 PM
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45. I agree if he blinks that is bad, but I think he has to get some credit too
then again his base is spoiling for a fight so it shouldn't be that hard to be courageous.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:39 PM
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48. That's what gets me banging my head on the wall. The Democrats
could start launching missiles in the Capitol and a huge majority of the Dem base would cheer and start heading for DC, but the Dems remain passive (or nearly so)...it makes me short-circuit!
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GrantDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 03:38 PM
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Exactly....
We'll see if the Dems cave as they have done in the past.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 08:14 AM
Response to Reply #4
142. No one here "hates"
Reid. They disagree with his caution while so many lives are on the line. There is a difference.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 08:28 AM
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144. I'll second that...
I've been frustrated for months with Reid and Pelosi and their seeming fear of a President with a 26% approval rating. Don't want to impeach him? Fine. But for Chrissake, back the Republicans into a corner and force them to either stop the war or commit political suicide.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:46 PM
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5. Somehow I don't think that's gonna happen. Too much disappointments lately. nt
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:48 PM
Response to Reply #5
8. I really, really, wanna believe this.
When I saw the OP I thought it was a joke!
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:46 PM
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6. the republick party pisses and moans when the democratic party threatens to filibuster --
Edited on Mon Jul-16-07 01:47 PM by xchrom
so why is it right to filibuster now?

well what ever -- they can have fun yammering and staying up all night.

may they suffer.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:56 PM
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24. It Is the Repiggies Who Are Filibustering. Reid Is Forcing Them to Do It the Old-Fashioned Way
He's going to make them work at it at least.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 05:32 PM
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71. How can they filibuster, Reid has left them speechless ! ahahahaha ! nt
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 06:39 PM
Response to Reply #24
84. Can you or someone explain to me exactly how the Repubs are filibustering
now? I mean what exactly are they doing to stop an up or down vote? And what are they trying to accomplish by doing it?


I'm tho cornfuthed. :cry:
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 07:38 PM
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92. They are refusing to invoke cloture
Edited on Mon Jul-16-07 07:39 PM by MiniMe
Cloture ends debate on an issue. I think I heard somewhere, not sure where, that there is a Senate rule that has been in place for a long time that has a full debate at 30 hours. I'm not sure what happens after 30 hours, it may be that cloture is not necessary. This will be interesting.

edited to add that this will force the repubs to talk for 30 hours straight.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 08:00 PM
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94. We Need 60 Votes To End Debate: Known as "Cloture"
Reid is going to make them physically keep "debating" if they are going to do this.
That's how filibusters were done in the old days.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 03:04 AM
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132. Didn't Strom Thurmand block the Civil Rights Act once with a real fililbuster?
He stood at the podium and read the Bible or a phone book for like 20 hours, right?
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:47 PM
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7. Give 'em hell, Harry! n/t
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:49 PM
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10. And another!
:woohoo:
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:48 PM
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9. This should be called an "anti-filibuster", or filibuster-buster. nt
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:50 PM
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11. Will the Senate be on lockdown?
Is Harry providing pizza and bathroom breaks? What about the smokers?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:51 PM
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12. they will actually get pizza
and cots
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:53 PM
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16. The smokers will break down first.
(from my own experience, not bashing smokers here.) Does anyone have a list of rethug smokers so we can know who will cave first?
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:55 PM
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22.  hummmm .... then the sex addicts.
This may be over real fast! Good move Harry!
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:58 PM
Response to Reply #22
27. LOL
:rofl:
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:01 PM
Response to Reply #22
32. Do diaper changes count as sex?
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:07 PM
Response to Reply #32
37. Yes! do you even have to ask?
If we've learned anything from last week's collective enlightenment, we should all be up to speed on this.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #37
56. Right, but at what age does it become sex?
And at what age does it stop being sex again?

Age 0-3 : Not sex
Age 4-70 : Sex?
Age 70-death : Not Sex?

I need clarification so I can fill in my score-book tonight. ;)
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 04:45 PM
Response to Reply #56
67. It's only sex if your a rethug
and I think it ranges from 40-90 - sex, but the data on this isn't all in yet, statistics are being calculated as we speak.
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northernsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 03:47 PM
Response to Reply #22
62. that'll (purportedly) eliminate Norm Coleman pretty quickly
See ya, Normie!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 11:01 PM
Response to Reply #22
110. Well, to my understanding they still can still send "sexy" text messages from the senate floor?
;)
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:01 PM
Response to Reply #16
31. Buy a few boxes of Commit Lozenges Harry. They'll be fine. nt
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 10:28 PM
Response to Reply #12
102. And repuke diapers - for those so inclined...
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:53 PM
Response to Original message
13. MSNBC just confirmed, compared to Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, though
their remarks were snide. That Contessa is far happier reporting dope to the masses than news.
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eagler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:53 PM
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15. Bout time
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:54 PM
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17. Give 'em hell, Harry!
I love this. Do it, do it, do it.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:54 PM
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18. Yes. Yes. Yes. nt
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:54 PM
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19. Turn off the AC, Harry!
Edited on Mon Jul-16-07 01:54 PM by npincus
It won't get as hot as it is in Baghdad.
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:57 PM
Response to Reply #19
26. Better yet, turn on the heat in the room!
make 'em sweat!
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:54 PM
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20. Suddenly that Vitter guy is going to look like a fucking Prophet
I can already see all the pukes, sitting there in their diapers. Waiting it out.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:01 PM
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30. Or wading it out... nt
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:55 PM
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21. Good
Give em hell. Harry!
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:55 PM
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23. Thank God! n/t
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:57 PM
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25. Help me out, here. How do you filibuster your own bill?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:02 PM
Response to Reply #25
33. It's a filibuster of the republican filibuster
which threatened to effectively table the amendment
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:02 PM
Response to Reply #25
34. It's actually an anti-filibuster move so the rethugs
won't filibuster, or as someone else has graciously put it "a filibuster-busterer". It does make a lot of sense to me.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:03 PM
Response to Reply #25
35. I believe it's the Republicans that will filibuster
Reid is just making them do it until they drop. Like somebody above said, a filibuster buster.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 11:06 PM
Response to Reply #25
113. He's forcing a filli.
:hi:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:59 PM
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28. Good for him.
Use the tools we have in any damn way we can,and do it now!
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:14 PM
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38. Applause. n/t
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:19 PM
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40. Seriously, someone tell me how this will help?
I missed that part.
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:22 PM
Response to Reply #40
41. I see how it can help a lot of people politically, including pugs and the WH. nt
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 07:10 PM
Response to Reply #41
87. Chickenshit bullshit!
The pugs are doing the filbuster. Reid is just forcing them to do it the hard way.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:27 PM
Response to Reply #40
43. Picture it
The republicans have been threatening filibusters left and right. Reid is forcing their hand.

Now imagine all those chicken-shit wingnuts actually defending their BS for 24 hours. I give them three hours before they start repeating themselves and six hours before they start drooling and fainting from the exhaustion. of lying for six straight hours. They've got nothing and now they're being forced to show their crappy hand. Cards on table, boys.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:31 PM
Response to Reply #43
44. They'll read the phone book,
repeat the talking points, so what?

How will this help?

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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:36 PM
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46. This isn't exactly the classic filibuster
From FiredogLake/Bob Geiger:

Reid will be using the provision of Rule 22 that allows for up to 30 hours of continuous debate once it’s made clear — in this case, by Republicans trying to avoid an up-or-down vote on Reed-Levin — that there is a desire to continue debating the issue.

In other words, the Majority Leader is saying “You want to debate? We’ll stay all night and debate.”
Reid could hold the Senate in continuous session overnight Tuesday and into midday Wednesday unless Republicans agree to a simple-majority vote on Reed-Levin.

Senate Democrats will then be prepared to take to the floor and speak all night and, if their Republican colleagues do not remain in the chamber, invoke ongoing quorum calls and other procedural maneuvers to force GOP members back to the Senate floor...


link: http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/16/boo-yah/
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:42 PM
Response to Reply #46
50. It's the hair of the dog that bit them--the drunken power they used
Edited on Mon Jul-16-07 02:43 PM by blondeatlast
against the Dems is now biting them square on the ass.

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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:47 PM
Response to Reply #44
51. media images
It helps. Not only Bush, but congress has low ratings, because they are perceived as not wanting to stop the war. This may not be effective in doing that, but it will highlight the cause of the problem, and put political pressure on the Republicans. They may think twice before filibustering the next bill that comes along.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 07:13 PM
Response to Reply #51
88. I smell a terror alert coming on....
Then it will be "terra, terra, terra" and "Osama, Osama, Osama" all through the filibuster.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 12:33 PM
Response to Reply #51
162. It draws the lines
This might be a good move. It draws the lines in congress more clearly and forces more detailed reporting than "congresses general approval rating" vs "presidential approval rating."

The various media seem content to delve into this "low congressional approval rating" story frequently without giving it any real context. They report on polling numbers that occur without the people they poll having information as to what is going on.

The majority of Americans want out of Iraq. I think the inability of congress to get us out is part of the frustration. If Americans knew who was REALLY responsible for stalling on this their opinions would be more focused. (This also begs the question as to whether "Do you approve of the job Congress is doing?" is a very good question. It isn't.)
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 10:35 PM
Response to Reply #44
103. It is meant to force them to vote on the bill before them. They are
trying to block a vote on the bill.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 02:12 AM
Response to Reply #44
130. It won't but it's red meat for a population that would prefer impeachment.
Even if the Repos cave (which I doubt) and they pass the bill, bush will veto it. ANd they dion't have the votes to over ride the veto.

But it's kind of fun in a circus kind of way.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 12:49 PM
Response to Reply #44
166. Watch the media buzz....listen to the freepers cry foul! The out cry
from John Q. Citizen will have a tremendous impact, making the republicans look like the die heart double speak bastards they are.

It will help, Watch!!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 07:37 PM
Response to Reply #40
91. It will force the Repugs to go on record as supporters of this
overwhelmingly unpopular war...
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 03:19 AM
Response to Reply #40
134. The Repubs will have to actively debate
The Senate has to first agress to discuss a bill before it can come up for amendments and such.

In this case, by going old school, the Repubs will have to actually talk to fill the space, and it will drag on and on, especially if Reid refuses to bring any other business to the floor or put the Senate in recess or ajournment.

If they don't have the drive to stand at a podium all night, they can't block debating the bill.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:39 PM
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47. Republicans love overtime
But only when somebody else has to do it.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 05:34 PM
Response to Reply #47
73. But poor clock mgt has left them with over 18 months to run out the clock, way too much time.....nt
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 10:14 PM
Response to Reply #47
100. They'll cry like little wimps for just the thought of actually having
to stay at work for awhile and doing their job!
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:40 PM
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49. I smell a terror alert coming.
Another rogue piece of luggage is going to be spotted, I expect.
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mdelaguna2000 Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 03:40 PM
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60. L.O.L.
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 05:35 PM
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74. or envelopes with white powder that's not the usual coke
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 06:32 PM
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82. Or possible a package of anthrax to the senate building.
Can't put anything past those GOP fan boys.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:48 PM
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52. Well su prize su prize su prize!
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:49 PM
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53. Oh Great! Vitter gets to wear his allnighter diapers again!!
Edited on Mon Jul-16-07 02:49 PM by Major Hogwash
And Lindsay Graham will be able to wear his "I'm the Lil' General" pajamas with the little tanks and little planes and little soldiers pattern!!
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 01:03 AM
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128. I keep reading posts about his diapers


What happened that I missed?
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 05:55 AM
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136. Well...
...it's rumored that some ladies engaged in an ancient profession have revealed that a certain Mr. Vitter has a diaper fetish.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 11:25 AM
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158. You mean the family values Senator
likes to dress up in diapers?

Please tell me nooooo! :bounce:
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connecticut yankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 12:02 PM
Original message
and he
wanted to be spanked for pooping in them.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:58 PM
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54. I've been waiting for this.
Harry, you rock!
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 03:24 PM
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55. Love that Reid's shoving "up or down" right back at them
Go, Senator Reid!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 03:31 PM
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57. Harry Reid is the WORST Senator EVER!!! (whinewhinewhine)
:rofl:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 01:04 PM
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170. oh and you know that these SOB repigs will be whining their
heads off, I hope the Dems give it to them hard, no backing down we are watching you? My Senator from RI needs a call for this Levin/Reed amendment. Give him some support.
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Juan_de_la_Dem Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 03:34 PM
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58. Enough is Enough
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DianaForRussFeingold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 03:38 PM
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59. July 13 Iraqi Police Fire on U.S. Soldiers! Al Maliki says we can go home!
It's Time for this nightmare to end!!!
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knowledgeispwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 03:45 PM
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61. K & R n/t
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 04:22 PM
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63. I'm just wild about Harry!!!!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 04:27 PM
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64. make them sign on the fucking line, Harry
then we'll send it to all their constituents....remember this is a greatly unpopular war.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 01:07 PM
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173. or send the Sargent of Arms to arrest them I thought I heard that
Edited on Tue Jul-17-07 01:07 PM by alyce douglas
this afternoon on C Span 2, they want these repigs on the floor to debate.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 04:34 PM
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65. Good. Now, what is going to happen in the House if
this AMENDMENT passes? How long is it going to take to get the House to vote on it, get the language reconciled, and get it passed again in both houses and get it to *'s desk for veto? And, will they have enough votes to override the veto?

I hope this all works, but here's where I'm coming from:

I agree with Dennis Kucinich. To end this war, all that has to happen is for the leadership to REFUSE to bring any more war funding bills to the floor for a vote. When the money runs out, and no bills are on the floor to fund it, the war ends.

DON'T.FUND.THE.DAMNED.WAR!! Don't even bring funding up for a vote.

Absent that, then this step by Harry Reid is the best course. Let's pray that when we hear "no more blank checks" that they won't write any more blank checks, like the last time.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 04:36 PM
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66. Right...after they passed the Lieberman Amendment to Continue War to Iran...
I'll believe this isn't another Reid Stunt when I see a vote that favors something with TEETH that's BINDING. Until then...it's another empty hope.
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flying_wahini Donating Member (856 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 04:52 PM
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68. Get the Popcorn out.....
I hope the Repugs choke on it.....

even if it fails as a fillibusters fillibuster,
it will make the War Mongers stand and defend B***
and that will make great TV ads for the next election.... HA!
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 04:58 PM
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69. Go Reid
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 05:30 PM
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70. Sending the GOP off to bed without their supper, eh ? nt
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 05:33 PM
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72. Guess the repukes better dial up their escort services
and cancel their appointments for the night!
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 01:15 PM
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175. ..........
:rofl:
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 05:41 PM
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75. Do I understand this correctly?
60 votes needed for cloture, i.e., close debate. If cloture fails --> debate must continue for the prespecified number of hours. My question: after the all night discussion, can the amendment be brought to a vote and require a simple majority? Not that in practical terms it will matter much, the magical number is still 67, but still....
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 07:44 PM
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93. I believe that the full debate is 30 hours, it is in the Senate rules
And I think that after that they will only need 51 votes. It will of course be vetoed by Bush, but then it is on Bush and not the Senate.
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 05:41 PM
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76. Reid is showing that he's got some balls n/t
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southern_belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 05:53 PM
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77. Go get 'em Harry!
And don't back down!!!! :bounce: :applause: :woohoo: :rofl: :popcorn:
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 06:10 PM
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78. YES!
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 06:16 PM
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79. Whoo Hooooo! K and R
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 06:17 PM
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80. Our troops are up all night and in peril. Good for Senator Reid. It's about time.
:thumbsup:
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 06:23 PM
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81. for real?! Wha?
Way to go!
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 06:35 PM
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83. It takes 60 votes to invoke cloture, and one vote to defeat it.
At the very least this will get noticed by the media.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 06:59 PM
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85. Excellent news
Even red staters who still feel some obligation to support Bush* because of the troops in Iraq will respect people standing up and fighting for what they believe in.

I, of course, applaud the fact that the dems may finally be 'getting it'
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 07:10 PM
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86. K/R nt
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jonnyra Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 07:31 PM
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89. An all night filibuster?
This is the party and president that has DESTROYED AMERICA. This is an administration that is murderous and lawless. The Republican party is a virtual crime family responsible for the dismantling of the constitution. And Im supposed to be impressed with an all night filibuster? Please.

We have criminals in the white house. We have liars and thieves starting illegal and immoral wars in our name. We have attacks ready to be launched against Iran...a nation that like Iraq has done nothing to us and is no threat. And Im supposed to be impressed with an all nighter??

I'll be impressed when Americans finally stand up and demand an end to the crimes and kick the bastards out with a popular revolt...an uprising of the people against these criminals. But an all night slumber party by the democratic party? Sorry its all too little too late. The damage is done. America has been destroyed by the republican party.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 07:34 AM
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141. get your pitchfork
gather your friends, and get out in the street - storm the bastille. Don't go on the internet and cast asparagus on what is being done if you think it's not enough. This is a government of the people. You are one of the people. Start a hugh uprising. I'm series. Posters saying what others should be doing are just another form of chickenhawk.
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 09:15 AM
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148. Kudos to you for rolling a reference to "the French" and the words asparagus, hugh,
series AND chickenhawk, all into one big freedom-loving frittata.

:yourock:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 07:34 PM
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90. This should improve Congress's approval numbers. . . . . !. . n/t
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 08:13 PM
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95. i'll sure as hell be watching tomorrow! glad to hear this. n/t
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 09:38 PM
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97. Aside from this political theater, what exactly does the proposed legislation say???
Any legislation calling for withdrawal timetables/deadlines that allows them to pass without consequence at Bush's own discretion (like the first supplemental spending bill Bush vetoed this spring) isn't worth the paper it's written on.

I just don't trust our Dem leadership anymore to do anything significant beyond peppering the airwaves with an indignant speech here and there. Then the rubber hits the road they run and hide.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 09:40 PM
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98. EXACTLY- Political theatre.
You just KNOW great change will result, eh?
NOT.

BHN
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 10:59 PM
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109. Gosh, I remember people calling for Dems to filibuster over this n that weekly.
Edited on Mon Jul-16-07 11:00 PM by mzmolly
Now that we are it's considered political theater? Nah, this is democracy and it's timely as hell. This is actually a step in ending the war, though it's not apparent to many just yet.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 11:03 PM
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111. Sorry, Iv'e got to take the "wait and see" what it accomplishes side of the gallery
My brain/soul can't endure the disappointment of any more
"THIS is it!" scenes that lead to more of the same insanity.
That's just me.

BHN
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 11:05 PM
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112. I understand. Not trying to be hard on YOU at all Beherenow.
:hug:
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 11:09 PM
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114. I don't take it personally- it's just that I couldn't help notice this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

In the land where I live, the free pass on Iran Dems somehow
don't give me much hope about the filibuster Dems.

I just can't help but notice the complete disconnect.

BHN
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 11:12 PM
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116. If it's any consolation John Nichols of the Nation is encouraged by this move.
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat?bid=1&pid=214732

:hi:

Have a great night, shutting down for now. *yawn*
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 10:57 PM
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107. What it says tomorrow is that R's don't support getting out of Iraq.
:hi:
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 11:11 PM
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115. While dems vote to attack Iran!
Hey, what's wrong with THAT picture?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
BHN
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 11:13 PM
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117. I'm sorry I don't consider the author of that piece to be very credible.
Edited on Mon Jul-16-07 11:24 PM by mzmolly
:shrug: And upon reading the amendment, I don't see where Dems voted to "attack?"

http://iranlegislation.wikispaces.com/space/showimage/D...

I'll check back in the AM. Again, g-night.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 11:18 PM
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118. How about Seymour Hersh, Scott Ritter and the recent Guardian article?
Not to mention countless other analysts of impeccable reputations.
BHN
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 11:18 PM
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119. They fear Cheney is pressing for an attack, that doesn't mean Democrats support one.
eom
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 11:26 PM
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120. Oh, and they just happened to remove this from their bill on spending....
http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,128420,00.h...

"House Democrats Retreat on Iran
Associated Press | March 13, 2007

WASHINGTON - Top House Democrats retreated Monday from an attempt to
limit President Bush's authority for taking military action against
Iran as the leadership concentrated on a looming confrontation
with the White House over the Iraq war.

Officials said Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other members
of the leadership had decided to strip from a major military
spending bill a requirement for Bush to gain
approval from Congress before moving against Iran..."

So far, they have not uttered a peep about restraining
the madmen.

BHN

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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 11:32 PM
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123. That was in March. But,
there is NO WAY we will fall for their bullshit again. America is tired of war.

Now I'm REALLY out. Again, have a nice evening BHN.

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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 11:36 PM
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125. A stiff drink will help-
Good night to you.
Peace out,
BHN
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 09:45 AM
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151. I sure hope you're right, mzmolly. n/t
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 11:52 AM
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159. I do too redqueen. I just can't imagine taking the bait again?
Edited on Tue Jul-17-07 11:53 AM by mzmolly
:shrug:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 12:29 PM
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161. I don't think it's bait.
I think some of these people are complicit.

Those were bald-faced lies. Too many knew it to let these creeps off the hook.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 12:42 PM
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165. I think if they knew, they must have known history would prove them ignorant?
That doesn't make sense to me? But, I do think that this administration used Colin Powell to convince those on the fence, and given his history of integrity some believed him. Even some DU-ers did? I guess I think they were duped, but regardless it's time to end it.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 12:55 PM
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167. No doubt... time to end it.
However, will they be 'duped' on Iran as well?

I don't think it's impossible. Not by a LONG shot.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 01:05 PM
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171. My only concern is another LIHOP.
If that happens, your guess is as good as mine. But, I think that we'd probably mention the fact that Bush isn't "that concerned" about Osama and decide to go that route.

Peace
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 01:11 PM
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174. Once again, I hope you're right!
Peace. :)
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 01:22 PM
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176. unless cheney has something up his sleeve like Israel will attack
Edited on Tue Jul-17-07 01:25 PM by alyce douglas
Iran, and we (because we are such good friends of Isreal) join in to help our friends. Sickening, what do you guys think? We have to keep several steps ahead of slimy thuggish neo cons. Just speculating and not pushing for it either.
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Chichiri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 09:50 PM
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99. Procedurally, how would that work?
I mean, what would the sequence of events be here? Would all of the war supporters be forced to physically remain in the chamber all night?
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Jillian Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 10:26 PM
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101. You mean they are actually going to try to get something done?
I wish I had their hours - they are never there.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 10:49 PM
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104. I love all night debate
Heh - this could prove interesting!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 10:56 PM
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106. Thanks for the great news Babylonsister.
:hi:
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 10:59 PM
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108. Finally! Now we're getting somewhere. n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 11:31 PM
Original message
Kick
Give 'em hell, Harry. Please.
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 11:31 PM
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121. Good move. But it has to go on as long as it takes
Edited on Mon Jul-16-07 11:32 PM by Strawman
Not just one night as some sort of political theater. The procedural filibuster of current practice is too easy. This could be a welcome development in the Senate.

I have a feeling Harry is giving them a taste now of what they're in for come September. The Dems have incrementally ratcheted up the pressure after their last cave-in on the supplemental. I think he should press now rather than wait.

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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 11:34 PM
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124. It's way, way past time to play hardball.
Thank you for the delighful news!
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 01:02 AM
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126. Too little too late
This should have been done years ago.

Go to hell Harry!

Fuck Reid.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 03:19 AM
Response to Reply #126
133. How could this have been done years ago?
I really don't understand.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 08:36 AM
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147. Whan was the last time the Dems had a majority? The utter ignorance of civics
on this borad is alarming.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 10:18 AM
Response to Reply #126
156. A year ago he was not majority leader


grow up
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 01:03 AM
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127. Finally!
Harry is taking the gloves off! We need to send him lots of encouraging e-mails, phone calls, telegrams etc!
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BEZERKO Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 01:27 AM
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129. This should be interesting...
I think Edwards is right, send W legislation that brings them home, make him veto it, and repeat.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 02:22 AM
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131. recommended
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 03:31 AM
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135. I hope this pays off, but not holding my breath
Bush already has the money. Everything else is really posturing and gamesmanship.

Bush is setting us up with this whole Petreaus report bullshit. Pete Pace is going to report seperately that everything is fine. Petreaus' negative report will be downplayed. And the beat will go on. That appears to be the plan.

Bush should have never gotten this money.

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InsultComicDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 06:17 AM
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137. How many sleepless nights
do our armed forces have to deal with in Iraq?

The least the Senate can do is stay up until they get their work done.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 06:19 AM
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138. They should schedule it over a weekend
Then hear the repuke Senators whine. :evilgrin:
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InsultComicDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 06:23 AM
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139. SUGGESTION FOR FILIBUSTERING MATERIAL
have our Senators read DU comments on the floor of the Senate...
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 09:51 AM
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153. I think they should read the Patriot Act - it is 800 pages long
BTW, we're not the ones filibustering - it's the republicans. Reid is just gonna let them filibuster as long as they want to show that these idiots refuse to do anything about the mess they got us in
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Dragonbreathp9d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 06:30 AM
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140. How can people not balieve in evolution?
This invertebrate just grew a spine!
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 08:25 AM
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143. BREAKING NEWS: DEMS GROW A PAIR!!
nt
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 08:30 AM
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145. As long as the Repukes are going to obstruct, Reid should force
this for every piece of legislation that comes up. Make the Repukes defend their standing with Bush on everything.
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cullen2382 Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 08:34 AM
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146. GIVE EM HELL HARRY
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 09:34 AM
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149. Give 'em your usual tiny bit o' freeze-dried heck, Harry!
And try not to rubberstamp any more war appropriations, mmkay?

That's what you'd have done if you were serious about ending the war rather than merely posturing for 2008, you collaborator.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 09:38 AM
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150. FINALLY!
:bounce:

Give 'em hell, Harry!

:woohoo:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 09:49 AM
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152. Only chickenshits would filibuster this bill
Edited on Tue Jul-17-07 09:49 AM by LynneSin
But then again most of them were too chickenshit to serve in the military so clearly their too chickenshit to do anything about ending this war.

Personally, if I were Reid I'd let them filibuster all senate term - it's only going to make the Republicans look even worse when America realizes they'll do nothing to end the war
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connecticut yankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 10:00 AM
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154. It's about time
Harry showed some guts!

Give 'em Hell!
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 10:02 AM
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155. Good morning....
and it now begins...


Kick for the senate debate...cspan2 now
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 10:34 AM
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157. You can have all the little filibusters you want, go ahead & knock
Edited on Tue Jul-17-07 10:36 AM by The_Casual_Observer
yourself out - dick cheney.
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farmhand Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 12:02 PM
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160. Let the dog and pony show begin!
Is this just another show by the Dems. Are they gonna cave again like they did last time and gave the President a blank check for the war? Or is this some non-binding thing that looks good but doesn't mean shit in end and won't end the war.
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cullen2382 Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 12:33 PM
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163. Sign Reid's petition
http://giveemhellharry.com/obstruction

Republicans are using a filibuster to prevent us from voting on an amendment that could bring the war to a responsible end. They are protecting the President rather than protecting our troops and are denying us an up-or-down vote on the most important issue facing our country.

Plenty of Republicans are talking the right way on Iraq, expressing disapproval for the President's policy.

But speeches won't end the war, votes will.

Tell Republicans: Stop Obstructing. It's time to change course in Iraq.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 12:34 PM
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164. This is nothing more then political theatre!
God Bless them all!
:patriot:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 01:06 PM
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172. LOL!
:patriot:

:kick:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 12:59 PM
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168. let's call our Senators and tell them we are watching them
very closely on this one. And Dems fight it out with those sleazy Repigs!!
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democratdoug Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 01:00 PM
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169. Terrorists alerts go sky high anytime the Democrats try to do something! Is it...
they have to constantly try to keep Americans living in fear? They should change the terror alert chart...lol to Red being "Repukes Escape Distraction". I think they use Al Quida only when it is convienent for them...and right now, they need a distraction!
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