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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 11:54 AM
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Tony Snow has only months to live. I am predicting 6 months
Edited on Mon Jul-16-07 11:58 AM by greenbriar
he looks a lot like my father...

greying hair

bug eyes

quieting voice

lack of energy in the face



I am predicting he has less than 6 months


my father looked like that and he died in 3 months
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 11:56 AM
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1. I think you are right. I am saddened for his family. n/tUpdated at 5:52 PM
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 11:57 AM
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2. Spouse and I said same thing last week
Edited on Mon Jul-16-07 12:00 PM by DemReadingDU
Tony Snow does not look well, his eyes are sunken in, and color is ashen
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Saphire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:05 PM
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19. I've noticed the way his suit coat swallows him. Thoughts for him and
his family.
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 11:58 AM
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3. It could be the drugs but from what we've been told of his cancer,
I'm inclined to agree with you. I had a friend with the same condition, almost exactly, and he worked up to a month before he died.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 11:59 AM
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4. so did my father. In fact. the day he died, was his official retirement party
the guys at the airplane manufactoring shop had cake and balloons and stuff at the shop and my father was in the hospital in a coma dying of cancer
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:00 PM
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5. what kind of cancer does he have?
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:02 PM
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9. my father had leukemia and died exactly 3 months to the day of diagnosis
I think it was the materials he was around for 45 years at the aircraft plant
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:04 PM
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15. my mother-in-law died of leukemia, too. That fast.
It seems sneaky b/c the main symptom is being tired. She just thought it was because she was getting older.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:05 PM
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18. exactly
my father drove 130 miles daily for work

we thought it was just tiredness as well. That and the fact he was 65
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:07 PM
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23. yep. After my mother-in-law was diagnosed, I learned that
a local ob/gyn in our town died of the same thing not long before. He thought he was just tired from getting up in the night to deliver all those babies.

We were lucky, though, because she died peacefully. We had time to say our goodbyes and were able to alleviate her pain in the end, which is some comfort. But she was like a second mom to me and I still think about her every day.
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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 05:42 PM
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95. My dad died of Leukemia too
Edited on Mon Jul-16-07 05:43 PM by indie_voter
He died 2.5 years after the diagnosis. We thought it might be anemia, because he was so tired. He was 73 when he learned he had cancer. Horrible horrible disease, and for some (my dad included) it's a painful death.
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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 05:54 PM
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97. Leukemia is a terrible disease.
Sorry to hear that many of you have lost loved ones to it. :grouphug: My grandmother died of leukemia at the age of 36 (when my mom was 12), so I never got to know her. (My step-grandmother is a wonderful person and I'm really glad she's in my life, but I still feel sad for my mom sometimes for losing her own mother at such a tragically young age.)
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:02 PM
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10. Colon cancer
He was okay for a couple of years but it came back.

Pretty nasty way to go. I wish him well.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:03 PM
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11. yeah. That's pretty bad. n/t
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:56 PM
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79. I think it spread to his liver
prognosis for that is not good.
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Sadie4629 Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:00 PM
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6. You may very well be right
But remember, also, that the treatment for cancer also takes a lot out of a person. Even a person who will survive his cancer can look very, very ill while undergoing chemotherapy and/or radiation.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:00 PM
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7. I really wish he would spend more time with his family instead of lying for the Bush cronies.
Especially since he is financially secure to do so.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:08 PM
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28. The man has many choices on how to spend the little time he has left
Edited on Mon Jul-16-07 12:12 PM by Robbien
and he chooses to spend the majority of it smoozing with the DC press lapdogs instead of his family?

Oh well, his choice.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 05:06 PM
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88. My feelings exactly
Edited on Mon Jul-16-07 05:45 PM by malaise
What kind of man would spend his last days spinning for LIARS rather than being with his family.

Sp.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 06:21 PM
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104. Maybe just because
for some people to have to quit working is to admit defeat. I see the logic, misdirected as I think it might be. I'd like to think I'd spend every minute with my family.
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JacquesMolay Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:01 PM
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8. Colonoscopies suck ...
... I had to have one last year - I was having some symptoms and doctor said I needed one as I'm over 40, and had some history (grandmother) of colon cancer. Man, it sucked, but was worth it to know I'm completely clear. Symptoms don't occur usually until it's too late - so I would advise people to have one some time in their 40's.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:03 PM
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13. I'm getting one next week
they are scoping both ends the same day


I told them to be sure and not forget which end goes where
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JacquesMolay Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:07 PM
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24. Good luck - read the prep instructions carefully.
n/t
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:08 PM
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30. which flavor pack should I choose? I am leaning towards cherry
but I hear they are all nasty
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JacquesMolay Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:12 PM
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37. I doubt that the flavor is going to matter much ....
... the first drink will go down easier than the subsequent ones - don't plan on having any parties that night.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:16 PM
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42. I've just used plain Fleet Phospho-Soda, lemon-lime flavor
It'll blow it out your ass for sure.
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Sadie4629 Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:20 PM
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45. Did you cut it with 7-Up or anything? n/t
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:32 PM
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56. Ginger ale. Though you won't ever be able to drink it again---until your next colonoscopy!
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:36 PM
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61. you can do that?
I will
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Sadie4629 Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:39 PM
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64. I took it straight the first time
Wasn't too bad, because it was only about an oz. and a half. The second time I cut it. It still tasted pretty bad, but there was a whole lot more of it to drink!

My friend had to drink a whole gallon of yucky-tasting stuff.
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Longhorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 05:03 PM
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86. Sure!
We were told to mix ours with 8 oz. of liquid. I mixed mine with Snapple. I think my husband used gingerale. Whatever you use, you want to drink it quickly as it tastes pretty salty.

We were told the prep was the hardest part. That's true but it was actually pretty easy. We had some broth and Jello and never really got hungry. The need to visit the powder room wasn't as sudden as I thought it would be.

We both got great reports and don't have to do it again for ten years. Best wishes! :hi:
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:18 PM
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75. I just do the whole thing in two doses and wash it down with beer
That enhances the cleansing effect.
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Longhorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 05:04 PM
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87. I don't remember beer on the list of beverages we could have!
Too bad, too! :)
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 05:25 PM
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90. My instructions always say "clear liquids only"
Beer is fucking clear enough IMO.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:48 PM
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72. Ask, ask, ask, if you can do OsmoPrep, a new prep MUCH easier to withstand
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:17 PM
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43. And don't turn down any medication they offer you
:argh:
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Sadie4629 Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:23 PM
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48. IMPORTANT word of advice!!!
Make sure you get "cleaned out" well. I had to have two, only about three weeks apart, because I didn't get cleaned out well enough the first time. My doc ordered a 24-hour fast both times, but on the advice of my dental hygienist (!) I did a 48-hour fast the second time. No problems.

BTW, I had to pay for both of them. :-(
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:27 PM
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51. good advice thanks
I will do that
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 06:50 PM
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108. P.S. For the second drinking session, I needed a "receptacle" at both ends. Just sayin'!
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pink-o Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 06:29 PM
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106. I was scheduled for one a month after I turned 50..
..but it was the weekend of New Year's 2005! I immediately canceled and never re-scheduled--for one reason only: I don't wanna fast and drink those laxatives!!

Has anyone asked their doctor if they could just get a full-on colonic irrigation the day before? I've had those, they're actually pretty relaxing and man! Do they clean you out!
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:31 PM
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55. LOL- it's a nothing-procedure.
But, if you can, ask your doc if you can swallow pills instead of the horrible liquid. Family members who have had both say the pills are much much easier. The liquid is NASTY NASTY...

Good luck, and enjoy your sedation! hee hee (I love going that feeling when the intravenous anasthetic starts to kick in...)
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:33 PM
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58. well, I can't take the pills because of the condition that is warrenting this test
the pills would probably be out of my body within 15 minutes
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:46 PM
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69. oh, so sorry!
Edited on Mon Jul-16-07 12:46 PM by npincus
I have all sorts of 'issues' myself... acid-reflux and Irritable bowel syndrome... I had a colonoscopy and endoscopy a few moths ago, and just was at the gastroenterologist this morning.

Alright, best of luck!
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Sadie4629 Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:03 PM
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14. Standard guidelines are over 50
I had one this year. The prep was the worst part. The doc I had used Versed as the anesthetic. You come out from under feeling like everything is right with the world. Great stuff!

(BTW, mine was OK, too.)
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JacquesMolay Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:06 PM
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21. The Versed is an amnesiac - I got demerol, too...
... I was more scared of being 'put down' by drugs (yeah, I know - control issue) than anything else. But I was out in seconds.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 05:26 PM
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91. Versed and fentanyl in my case
Love the stuff!
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:06 PM
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20. Actually I thought the procedure was pretty much of a nothing but..
the day before preparation really sucked.
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la la Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:26 PM
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50. I was out during mine, too
but the day before sucked big time.

The dr showed me the video after. That was nice, too! :sarcasm:
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:46 PM
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70. me too, so much for lunch. LOL nt
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 05:23 PM
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89. I got a report (with color pictures) mailed to me a week later. Too funny!
I was really taken aback by that. The report I could understand, but I wasn't expecting the pictures. Oh well!
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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 06:00 PM
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100. My mom got color pictures from hers, too.
And having the twisted sense of humor that apparently runs in our family, she posted them on the refrigerator. Talk about an excellent diet aid! :eyes: :P
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:15 PM
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40. I have had ulcerative colitis since I was 10 so I get checked out ever other year
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:40 PM
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65. I've had Crohns since childhood...
so I'm also supposed to have one every few years.

At least the procedure and prep are gentler now than they were 15-20 years ago!
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:29 PM
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53. my colonoscopy was a breeze... no pain, nothing.. didn't suck
4 me at all. The worst part is drinking that vile stuff the day before. My sisters took pills instead of the liquid, which I'd reccomend.

I don't think they suck, I was put under and woke up feelig A-OK.
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 05:50 PM
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96. Mine Was Also a Breeze. I Slept Through the Entire Thing.
I don't know what they gave me, but one minute I was counting, and the next minute I was waking up in the recovery room, fresh as a daisy, not groggy at all. Seriously, I could have driven to Pittsburgh seconds after waking up. By far the easiest procedure I've ever had done.

Now the prep period beforehand...THAT was nasty. Not so much the medicine you have to take, but all that time in the bathroom. Exhausting. :hurts:
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:03 PM
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12. Please. Let's not go there.
Regardless the time Tony Snow may have left, let's not turn it into a speculation game.

Thank you.

MIM
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:11 PM
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34. What you said.
:thumbsup:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:28 PM
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52. Agreed--a bit ghoulish.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:36 PM
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62. Just a question, and I've resisted trying to ask it for years now,
but I can't help it.

Why do some people feel that they should be the conversation police? Why do some people think they can tell people what they can and cannot talk about?

As for Snow, you think this isn't a topic of conversation all over the place? You think people aren't wondering how long this guy is gonna last either because of pressure or health? And you really think that you have the right to tell people no to post about it?

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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:03 PM
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74. I just think its real tacky.
Sorry, but I thought this board rose above that kind of stuff. If you or others want to make predications about how long a person has to live, then that's up to you. As I said, I think its pretty tacky.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:55 PM
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77. For one thing, it smacks of hypocrisy
Since we, justifiably, are outraged when freepers engage in similar speculation (as was the case with Elizabeth Edwards, for example).
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 04:52 PM
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85. thank you
apparently my responses were too forceful because they were removed
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:04 PM
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16. His Hair
it's almost completely gray now. I know cancer patients have hair loss, but this graying is something I've not seen.

Taking the job where he has to lie more than he had to lie over at Fox Noise was a bad idea. The stress can't be helping his already compromised immune system. He should quit now and eliminate the stress of having to lie and make lame excuses for lame ducks in White House.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:06 PM
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22. that is why I say he is not well
in three months, my dads hair went from a little grey and a lot of black/brown to white and almost gone
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:04 PM
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17. will he renounce the evil before he dies?
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:07 PM
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25. I'm thinking death bed confession. nt
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:07 PM
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27. probably not
hopefully he is getting paid well to provide for his family
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:07 PM
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26. If he's really that sick, why is he still working?
Of course, I recall that one of his requirements for taking the job was that he had input on policy, so perhaps that is so important to him that he would work when he was sick.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:09 PM
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32. Good question...
perhaps he's advised to continue on as long as he feels up to it.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:16 PM
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41. work is keeping him alive. sheer evil can do that.
this way, he can avoid the hard truths about the harm he has inflicted on the US, if not the world, and by staying involved, too close to the forest, he can maintain a fiction that he is a worthwhile human being.
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Justyce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:08 PM
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29. If I was in that position, I could find a hell of a lot better ways
to spend my last months -- screw politics. I'd be spending time with my family & enjoying life while I could. Sympathy for him & his family though.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:09 PM
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31. They have made great advances with colon cancer just this year
My husband's doctor told him last week that my husband has "licked it", after four years, four surgeries, and endless rounds of chemo. I could write a book on this.
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Sadie4629 Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:45 PM
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68. A nurse's aide at my hospital
told me about her colon cancer. Diagnosed at age 43. Only one polyp, and they told her she'd probably had it for 15 years. Her cancer was stage 4 by the time she was diagnosed. She had YEARS of treatment, including some really radical surgery. They have finally pronounced her clear--after something like 7 years.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:02 PM
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82. That's wonderful.
There is such hope today.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:47 PM
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71. What great advances have been made just this year?
I'd like to read that chapter. I had ass-kicking surgery three months ago, and am doing my first round of chemo. I get depressed reading the stats on recovery from my prognosis. Is there some new approach that I haven't heard or read about? A PM would be appropriate. Thanks.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:01 PM
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81. Some important issues ...
(1) If at all possible get treatement at a National Cancer Institute Cancer Center, because (a) they have access to the latest treatments that a lot of oncologists do not yet know about, (b) they offer the very best care, and (c) if there is one available, you can participate in a clinical trial receiving medications perhaps for free.

http://www.cancer.gov/templates/doc.aspx?viewid=b0d39c6...


(2) The one where my husband is being treated and which we highly recommend for advanced care:
http://www.moffitt.org /


(3) Vectibix was just approved for use in Florida this year - - this became a major element in my husband's success fighting colon cancer that had seriously spread to his liver.

http://www.vectibix.com /

(4) A new option for the treatment of metastatic colorectal cancer

http://www.strivewell.com/news/redirectnews/6435







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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 04:32 PM
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84. Thanks for the info
This whole ordeal is very new to me and I'm being force-fed information at a frightening pace. On the day I had my colonoscopy I couldn't even pronounce the word, and two days later I was hospitalized (The doctor performing the colonoscopy scheduled emergency surgery, and referred me to 'the' surgeon while I was still sedated). I'm happy to note my oncologist is a Clinical Associate Professor at UC Davis, part of the National Cancer Institute Center. I will query him directly about any clinical trials that might apply to my condition, and I will also ask about him about Vectibix.

In the mean time, I'm on an Irintecan (Camptosar) infusion followed by Xeloda regiment. Blood tests continue to look good, and I continue to learn. But the proof is in the pudding, and I'm scheduled for a new CAT scan next month to determine how I'm actually doing. Patience has never been my strong suit.



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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 06:51 PM
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109. Fight the good fight, BrotherBuzz

Your blood test will speak the loudest. If your CEA counts go up firmly request a PET scan. Someday you might learn what the heck CEA counts mean, perhaps after you find out what a PET scan is.

Take care of your nutrition. Eat when you are not hungry. Every day take Iron, Potassium, Coral Calcium and a multivitamin. Go buy them now if you havent already.

Express love to your caregivers, especially the ones that have the big needles.

This difficult experience will give you bragging rights for years - - so go ahead and brag about your ordeal to all that will listen. Connect with all you can.

Soon, too, you will be able to tell us youve licked it. Ill be waiting to hear it.

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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:09 PM
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33. how is this any different than Frist diagnosing Terri Shaivo???
Please dont start threads like this and diagnose something from watching TV.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:12 PM
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:21 PM
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47. Um, because...
The OP's not demanding a certain course of treatment from behind a bully pulpit?
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:11 PM
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35. He's not looking well, is he?
The stresses of the job can't be good for him, either. I would think he would want to get away from that den of vipers and seek some peace ... but maybe he's such a true believer that thought never crosses his mind. It is sad, though, to watch someone waste away before our eyes.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:12 PM
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38. He should SPEAK THE TRUTH. Put his life to a NOBLE purpose. n/t
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:13 PM
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39. My sister had breast cancer that metastasized
in to liver cancer. Five years after the operation the doctors told her it had gone to her liver. They told her the last of August 2005 and she quickly went down hill and died in November of 2005. Before she died she turned deep brown. So if Tony Snow gets that type of complexion he won't last too long. I don't know why he is still on TV, unless he needs the money and health insurance. Just think of the favored treatment he is getting and all the uninsured suffering out there.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:19 PM
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44. Stop it. RIGHT NOW. Bad form. nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:24 PM
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:29 PM
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54. Oh, I don't think anybody's gonna miss him.
:shrug:
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Sadie4629 Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:33 PM
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59. I would guess--
--that his family and friends will. He's a human being. Have a little compassion.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:34 PM
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60. Maybe them.
But nobody here.
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slowry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:41 PM
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66. Does he have compassion for the hundreds of thousands
he has helped massacre? The millions who've left behind their jobs, homes, and hope? I'm not going to dance on his grave, but I won't lose a picosecond of sleep.

In any case, like another poster said, he'll live to 105.
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newportdadde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:32 PM
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57. He will be around for years... guys like that live forever.
Seriously, count on an asshole to live through almost anything. Cheney and his heart attacks or Tony with his cancer. Now if he was a single father with 2 kids under 18 and a volunteer he would drop dead in 5 minutes.

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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:38 PM
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63. I hope you are wrong, but fear you may be right
I am very sorry about your father.

I wish there could be better treatments for cancer.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:44 PM
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67. He does look pretty badly, but would he be working if he was that ill?
When my uncle died of cancer, he couldn't work for the six months between his diagnosis and death.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:50 PM
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73. my mom died from brain cancer, she worked up until 6 weeks before she died.
she tried keeping everything as normal as possible, i was 17 at the time and thankfully in her last month she had in home hospice care, in the end it was just Mom, me and one hospice worker.
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:49 PM
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76. In DC area I heard a lot of folks talk about the 'rush' they get from the circus
Many times, I heard "it's the adrenalin rush", as individuals went to work figuratively ignoring the fact that their homes was on fire. Folks would arrive to work with stories about what they left at home that left me speechless. Missing a day at work in that area could literally mean that when you returned to work the next day, you may learn that your job has been abolished. The environment was so vicious that most felt that they were constantly in a 'fight or flight' mode. I willing to guess that somehow, he has not been able to distinguish between his 'fight for life' modes of job and health.
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militaryspouse Donating Member (198 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:06 PM
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83. I really hope no hypochondriacs are reading this
the is a depressing thread. My condolences to all those who lost loved ones to this disease.

I have to remind myself not to judge ppl like snow. it just wouldn't feel right, me being a healthy person and not knowing what he's going thru to cast stones. I wish his kids were a bit older. i think dying is harder on both parties, when the kids are under 18. maybe he works alot to keep his mind off of dying. Maybe he's only away from his family 2-4 hrs a day, that still leaves a good chunk of time he's spending w/ them.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:56 PM
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78. bummer. it's sad. at least they've got snippy miss perino is ready to step right in.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 01:59 PM
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80. And my guess is he will go down lying!!
Sorry, I have no sympathy for anyone in this lying misadministration!!
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 05:28 PM
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92. You would think that if ever, his conscience would speak loudly now --
Most of them seem to be disconnected from humanity --


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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 05:29 PM
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93. Oh stop it.
I've known chemo patients who looked MUCH worse and lived YEARS longer than anyone expected them to. I've also known people who got through chemo, started looking so much better then the cancer came back with a vengence and they were dead in weeks.

Snow may die tomorrow or he may live another 30 years. You can't tell that by LOOKING at someone on chemo. You just can't.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 05:37 PM
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94. Cancer got my dad, but he went down fighting
He was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer in February, 2000.
That is usually a quick death sentence. Instead, he lasted
until November 27th of that year, and wrote his last column
8 days before he died. If you have the will to live, it can
keep you running on empty for a long time.

While he on a course of useless chemo, a "money-saving" bit of
legislation was proposed: have Medicare cover only 85% of out-
patient chemotherapy instead of 95%. This was in the summer of
2000. My dad arranged a conference call between the (still-Clinton)
White House and then Sen. Moynihan of New York to explain to them
that this was a terrible idea, as it would force low-income cancer
patients to get their treatments as in-patients so as to get the
95% coverage. The White House and Moynihan both got the idea very
quickly. The clause was dropped from the impending legislation, and
has, to my knowledge, never reappeared.

Cancer patients can do good as well as bad.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 05:55 PM
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98. I'm suprised he's still working.
That is such a stressful job ... lying for Bush.

Poor guy. That's really horrible.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 05:58 PM
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99. He's aged 20 years in only a few months.
It's terribly sad.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 06:14 PM
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101. I agree. He looks really bad. n/t
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 06:15 PM
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102. Sadly
I think you're right. He has "that look".

I feel bad for him and his family.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 06:18 PM
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103. He's such a lackey he's allowing bushco to exploit his terminal condition...
in the hopes that the WH press corp won't be too hard on "Poor Tony" when he's catapulting the lies and prevarications.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 06:26 PM
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105. I was thinking the same thing. He looks thinner, weaker, and unnourished.
Edited on Mon Jul-16-07 06:26 PM by Ilsa
He is pale and washed-out looking. I was wondering myself if he would make it through the end of the year. He might get through Christmas if he is determined. I feel bad for him and his family.
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Venus Dog Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 06:42 PM
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107. BushCo probably told him his life insurance policy would be cut off
if he quit and his wife and kids would be sent to the workhouse in Indonesia.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 06:58 PM
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110. I am locking this
Please do not post inappropriate death predictions...
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