Tony Snow has only months to live. I am predicting 6 months

[greenbriar]

he looks a lot like my father...

greying hair

bug eyes

quieting voice

lack of energy in the face



I am predicting he has less than 6 months


my father looked like that and he died in 3 months

[SoCalDem]

1. I think you are right. I am saddened for his family. n/t

[DemReadingDU]

2. Spouse and I said same thing last week

Tony Snow does not look well, his eyes are sunken in, and color is ashen

[Saphire]

19. I've noticed the way his suit coat swallows him. Thoughts for him and

his family.

[Raven]

3. It could be the drugs but from what we've been told of his cancer,

I'm inclined to agree with you. I had a friend with the same condition, almost exactly, and he worked up to a month before he died.

[greenbriar]

4. so did my father. In fact. the day he died, was his official retirement party

the guys at the airplane manufactoring shop had cake and balloons and stuff at the shop and my father was in the hospital in a coma dying of cancer

[Iris]

5. what kind of cancer does he have?

[greenbriar]

9. my father had leukemia and died exactly 3 months to the day of diagnosis

I think it was the materials he was around for 45 years at the aircraft plant

[Iris]

15. my mother-in-law died of leukemia, too. That fast.

It seems sneaky b/c the main symptom is being tired. She just thought it was because she was getting older.

[greenbriar]

18. exactly

my father drove 130 miles daily for work

we thought it was just tiredness as well. That and the fact he was 65

[Iris]

23. yep. After my mother-in-law was diagnosed, I learned that

a local ob/gyn in our town died of the same thing not long before. He thought he was just tired from getting up in the night to deliver all those babies.

We were lucky, though, because she died peacefully. We had time to say our goodbyes and were able to alleviate her pain in the end, which is some comfort. But she was like a second mom to me and I still think about her every day.

[indie_voter]

95. My dad died of Leukemia too

He died 2.5 years after the diagnosis. We thought it might be anemia, because he was so tired. He was 73 when he learned he had cancer. Horrible horrible disease, and for some (my dad included) it's a painful death.

[Cabcere]

97. Leukemia is a terrible disease.

Sorry to hear that many of you have lost loved ones to it. My grandmother died of leukemia at the age of 36 (when my mom was 12), so I never got to know her. (My step-grandmother is a wonderful person and I'm really glad she's in my life, but I still feel sad for my mom sometimes for losing her own mother at such a tragically young age.)

[Mz Pip]

10. Colon cancer

He was okay for a couple of years but it came back.

Pretty nasty way to go. I wish him well.

Mz Pip

[Iris]

11. yeah. That's pretty bad. n/t

[npincus]

79. I think it spread to his liver

prognosis for that is not good.

[Sadie4629]

6. You may very well be right

But remember, also, that the treatment for cancer also takes a lot out of a person. Even a person who will survive his cancer can look very, very ill while undergoing chemotherapy and/or radiation.

[Catherine Vincent]

7. I really wish he would spend more time with his family instead of lying for the Bush cronies.

Especially since he is financially secure to do so.

[Robbien]

28. The man has many choices on how to spend the little time he has left

and he chooses to spend the majority of it smoozing with the DC press lapdogs instead of his family?

Oh well, his choice.

[malaise]

88. My feelings exactly

What kind of man would spend his last days spinning for LIARS rather than being with his family.

Sp.

[shadowknows69]

104. Maybe just because

for some people to have to quit working is to admit defeat. I see the logic, misdirected as I think it might be. I'd like to think I'd spend every minute with my family.

[JacquesMolay]

8. Colonoscopies suck ...

... I had to have one last year - I was having some symptoms and doctor said I needed one as I'm over 40, and had some history (grandmother) of colon cancer. Man, it sucked, but was worth it to know I'm completely clear. Symptoms don't occur usually until it's too late - so I would advise people to have one some time in their 40's.

[greenbriar]

13. I'm getting one next week

they are scoping both ends the same day


I told them to be sure and not forget which end goes where

[JacquesMolay]

24. Good luck - read the prep instructions carefully.

n/t

[greenbriar]

30. which flavor pack should I choose? I am leaning towards cherry

but I hear they are all nasty

[JacquesMolay]

37. I doubt that the flavor is going to matter much ....

... the first drink will go down easier than the subsequent ones - don't plan on having any parties that night.

[slackmaster]

42. I've just used plain Fleet Phospho-Soda, lemon-lime flavor

It'll blow it out your ass for sure.

[Sadie4629]

45. Did you cut it with 7-Up or anything? n/t

[WinkyDink]

56. Ginger ale. Though you won't ever be able to drink it again---until your next colonoscopy!

[greenbriar]

61. you can do that?

I will

[Sadie4629]

64. I took it straight the first time

Wasn't too bad, because it was only about an oz. and a half. The second time I cut it. It still tasted pretty bad, but there was a whole lot more of it to drink!

My friend had to drink a whole gallon of yucky-tasting stuff.

[Longhorn]

86. Sure!

We were told to mix ours with 8 oz. of liquid. I mixed mine with Snapple. I think my husband used gingerale. Whatever you use, you want to drink it quickly as it tastes pretty salty.

We were told the prep was the hardest part. That's true but it was actually pretty easy. We had some broth and Jello and never really got hungry. The need to visit the powder room wasn't as sudden as I thought it would be.

We both got great reports and don't have to do it again for ten years. Best wishes!

[slackmaster]

75. I just do the whole thing in two doses and wash it down with beer

That enhances the cleansing effect.

[Longhorn]

87. I don't remember beer on the list of beverages we could have!

Too bad, too!

[slackmaster]

90. My instructions always say "clear liquids only"

Beer is fucking clear enough IMO.

[Bluebear]

72. Ask, ask, ask, if you can do OsmoPrep, a new prep MUCH easier to withstand

http://www.gihealth.com/html/test/prepColonoscopy4.html

[slackmaster]

43. And don't turn down any medication they offer you

[Sadie4629]

48. IMPORTANT word of advice!!!

Make sure you get "cleaned out" well. I had to have two, only about three weeks apart, because I didn't get cleaned out well enough the first time. My doc ordered a 24-hour fast both times, but on the advice of my dental hygienist (!) I did a 48-hour fast the second time. No problems.

BTW, I had to pay for both of them.

[greenbriar]

51. good advice thanks

I will do that

[WinkyDink]

108. P.S. For the second drinking session, I needed a "receptacle" at both ends. Just sayin'!

[pink-o]

106. I was scheduled for one a month after I turned 50..

..but it was the weekend of New Year's 2005! I immediately canceled and never re-scheduled--for one reason only: I don't wanna fast and drink those laxatives!!

Has anyone asked their doctor if they could just get a full-on colonic irrigation the day before? I've had those, they're actually pretty relaxing and man! Do they clean you out!

[npincus]

55. LOL- it's a nothing-procedure.

But, if you can, ask your doc if you can swallow pills instead of the horrible liquid. Family members who have had both say the pills are much much easier. The liquid is NASTY NASTY...

Good luck, and enjoy your sedation! hee hee (I love going that feeling when the intravenous anasthetic starts to kick in...)

[greenbriar]

58. well, I can't take the pills because of the condition that is warrenting this test

the pills would probably be out of my body within 15 minutes

[npincus]

69. oh, so sorry!

I have all sorts of 'issues' myself... acid-reflux and Irritable bowel syndrome... I had a colonoscopy and endoscopy a few moths ago, and just was at the gastroenterologist this morning.

Alright, best of luck!

[Sadie4629]

14. Standard guidelines are over 50

I had one this year. The prep was the worst part. The doc I had used Versed as the anesthetic. You come out from under feeling like everything is right with the world. Great stuff!

(BTW, mine was OK, too.)

[JacquesMolay]

21. The Versed is an amnesiac - I got demerol, too...

... I was more scared of being 'put down' by drugs (yeah, I know - control issue) than anything else. But I was out in seconds.

[slackmaster]

91. Versed and fentanyl in my case

Love the stuff!

[Javaman]

20. Actually I thought the procedure was pretty much of a nothing but..

the day before preparation really sucked.

[la la]

50. I was out during mine, too

but the day before sucked big time.

The dr showed me the video after. That was nice, too!

[Javaman]

70. me too, so much for lunch. LOL nt

[SharonAnn]

89. I got a report (with color pictures) mailed to me a week later. Too funny!

I was really taken aback by that. The report I could understand, but I wasn't expecting the pictures. Oh well!

[Cabcere]

100. My mom got color pictures from hers, too.

And having the twisted sense of humor that apparently runs in our family, she posted them on the refrigerator. Talk about an excellent diet aid!

[GreenPartyVoter]

40. I have had ulcerative colitis since I was 10 so I get checked out ever other year

[LeftishBrit]

65. I've had Crohns since childhood...

so I'm also supposed to have one every few years.

At least the procedure and prep are gentler now than they were 15-20 years ago!

[npincus]

53. my colonoscopy was a breeze... no pain, nothing.. didn't suck

4 me at all. The worst part is drinking that vile stuff the day before. My sisters took pills instead of the liquid, which I'd reccomend.

I don't think they suck, I was put under and woke up feelig A-OK.

[Toasterlad]

96. Mine Was Also a Breeze. I Slept Through the Entire Thing.

I don't know what they gave me, but one minute I was counting, and the next minute I was waking up in the recovery room, fresh as a daisy, not groggy at all. Seriously, I could have driven to Pittsburgh seconds after waking up. By far the easiest procedure I've ever had done.

Now the prep period beforehand...THAT was nasty. Not so much the medicine you have to take, but all that time in the bathroom. Exhausting.

[madinmaryland]

12. Please. Let's not go there.

Regardless the time Tony Snow may have left, let's not turn it into a speculation game.

Thank you.

MIM

[AlCzervik]

34. What you said.

[TwilightGardener]

52. Agreed--a bit ghoulish.

[acmavm]

62. Just a question, and I've resisted trying to ask it for years now,

but I can't help it.

Why do some people feel that they should be the conversation police? Why do some people think they can tell people what they can and cannot talk about?

As for Snow, you think this isn't a topic of conversation all over the place? You think people aren't wondering how long this guy is gonna last either because of pressure or health? And you really think that you have the right to tell people no to post about it?

[madinmaryland]

74. I just think its real tacky.

Sorry, but I thought this board rose above that kind of stuff. If you or others want to make predications about how long a person has to live, then that's up to you. As I said, I think its pretty tacky.

[onenote]

77. For one thing, it smacks of hypocrisy

Since we, justifiably, are outraged when freepers engage in similar speculation (as was the case with Elizabeth Edwards, for example).

[greenbriar]

85. thank you

apparently my responses were too forceful because they were removed

[otohara]

16. His Hair

it's almost completely gray now. I know cancer patients have hair loss, but this graying is something I've not seen.

Taking the job where he has to lie more than he had to lie over at Fox Noise was a bad idea. The stress can't be helping his already compromised immune system. He should quit now and eliminate the stress of having to lie and make lame excuses for lame ducks in White House.

[greenbriar]

22. that is why I say he is not well

in three months, my dads hair went from a little grey and a lot of black/brown to white and almost gone

[leftofthedial]

17. will he renounce the evil before he dies?

[Javaman]

25. I'm thinking death bed confession. nt

[greenbriar]

27. probably not

hopefully he is getting paid well to provide for his family

[LisaM]

26. If he's really that sick, why is he still working?

Of course, I recall that one of his requirements for taking the job was that he had input on policy, so perhaps that is so important to him that he would work when he was sick.

[Javaman]

32. Good question...

perhaps he's advised to continue on as long as he feels up to it.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

41. work is keeping him alive. sheer evil can do that.

this way, he can avoid the hard truths about the harm he has inflicted on the US, if not the world, and by staying involved, too close to the forest, he can maintain a fiction that he is a worthwhile human being.

[Justyce]

29. If I was in that position, I could find a hell of a lot better ways

to spend my last months -- screw politics. I'd be spending time with my family & enjoying life while I could. Sympathy for him & his family though.

[Maribelle]

31. They have made great advances with colon cancer just this year

My husband's doctor told him last week that my husband has "licked it", after four years, four surgeries, and endless rounds of chemo. I could write a book on this.

[Sadie4629]

68. A nurse's aide at my hospital

told me about her colon cancer. Diagnosed at age 43. Only one polyp, and they told her she'd probably had it for 15 years. Her cancer was stage 4 by the time she was diagnosed. She had YEARS of treatment, including some really radical surgery. They have finally pronounced her clear--after something like 7 years.

[Maribelle]

82. That's wonderful.

There is such hope today.

[BrotherBuzz]

71. What great advances have been made just this year?

I'd like to read that chapter. I had ass-kicking surgery three months ago, and am doing my first round of chemo. I get depressed reading the stats on recovery from my prognosis. Is there some new approach that I haven't heard or read about? A PM would be appropriate. Thanks.

[Maribelle]

81. Some important issues ...

(1) If at all possible get treatement at a National Cancer Institute Cancer Center, because (a) they have access to the latest treatments that a lot of oncologists do not yet know about, (b) they offer the very best care, and (c) if there is one available, you can participate in a clinical trial receiving medications perhaps for free.

http://www.cancer.gov/templates/doc.aspx?viewid=b0d39c6...


(2) The one where my husband is being treated and which we highly recommend for advanced care:
http://www.moffitt.org /


(3) Vectibix was just approved for use in Florida this year - - this became a major element in my husband's success fighting colon cancer that had seriously spread to his liver.

http://www.vectibix.com /

(4) A new option for the treatment of metastatic colorectal cancer

http://www.strivewell.com/news/redirectnews/6435

[BrotherBuzz]

84. Thanks for the info

This whole ordeal is very new to me and I'm being force-fed information at a frightening pace. On the day I had my colonoscopy I couldn't even pronounce the word, and two days later I was hospitalized (The doctor performing the colonoscopy scheduled emergency surgery, and referred me to 'the' surgeon while I was still sedated). I'm happy to note my oncologist is a Clinical Associate Professor at UC Davis, part of the National Cancer Institute Center. I will query him directly about any clinical trials that might apply to my condition, and I will also ask about him about Vectibix.

In the mean time, I'm on an Irintecan (Camptosar) infusion followed by Xeloda regiment. Blood tests continue to look good, and I continue to learn. But the proof is in the pudding, and I'm scheduled for a new CAT scan next month to determine how I'm actually doing. Patience has never been my strong suit.

[Maribelle]

109. Fight the good fight, BrotherBuzz

Your blood test will speak the loudest. If your CEA counts go up firmly request a PET scan. Someday you might learn what the heck CEA counts mean, perhaps after you find out what a PET scan is.

Take care of your nutrition. Eat when you are not hungry. Every day take Iron, Potassium, Coral Calcium and a multivitamin. Go buy them now if you haven‘t already.

Express love to your caregivers, especially the ones that have the big needles.

This difficult experience will give you bragging rights for years - - so go ahead and brag about your ordeal to all that will listen. Connect with all you can.

Soon, too, you will be able to tell us you’ve “licked it.” I’ll be waiting to hear it.

[LSK]

33. how is this any different than Frist diagnosing Terri Shaivo???

Please dont start threads like this and diagnose something from watching TV.

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[HiFructosePronSyrup]

47. Um, because...

The OP's not demanding a certain course of treatment from behind a bully pulpit?

[Blue_In_AK]

35. He's not looking well, is he?

The stresses of the job can't be good for him, either. I would think he would want to get away from that den of vipers and seek some peace ... but maybe he's such a true believer that thought never crosses his mind. It is sad, though, to watch someone waste away before our eyes.

[UTUSN]

38. He should SPEAK THE TRUTH. Put his life to a NOBLE purpose. n/t

[Bitwit1234]

39. My sister had breast cancer that metastasized

in to liver cancer. Five years after the operation the doctors told her it had gone to her liver. They told her the last of August 2005 and she quickly went down hill and died in November of 2005. Before she died she turned deep brown. So if Tony Snow gets that type of complexion he won't last too long. I don't know why he is still on TV, unless he needs the money and health insurance. Just think of the favored treatment he is getting and all the uninsured suffering out there.

[Captain Hilts]

44. Stop it. RIGHT NOW. Bad form. nt

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[HiFructosePronSyrup]

54. Oh, I don't think anybody's gonna miss him.

[Sadie4629]

59. I would guess--

--that his family and friends will. He's a human being. Have a little compassion.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

60. Maybe them.

But nobody here.

[slowry]

66. Does he have compassion for the hundreds of thousands

he has helped massacre? The millions who've left behind their jobs, homes, and hope? I'm not going to dance on his grave, but I won't lose a picosecond of sleep.

In any case, like another poster said, he'll live to 105.

[newportdadde]

57. He will be around for years... guys like that live forever.

Seriously, count on an asshole to live through almost anything. Cheney and his heart attacks or Tony with his cancer. Now if he was a single father with 2 kids under 18 and a volunteer he would drop dead in 5 minutes.

[LeftishBrit]

63. I hope you are wrong, but fear you may be right

I am very sorry about your father.

I wish there could be better treatments for cancer.

[noonwitch]

67. He does look pretty badly, but would he be working if he was that ill?

When my uncle died of cancer, he couldn't work for the six months between his diagnosis and death.

[AlCzervik]

73. my mom died from brain cancer, she worked up until 6 weeks before she died.

she tried keeping everything as normal as possible, i was 17 at the time and thankfully in her last month she had in home hospice care, in the end it was just Mom, me and one hospice worker.

[flashl]

76. In DC area I heard a lot of folks talk about the 'rush' they get from the circus

Many times, I heard "it's the adrenalin rush", as individuals went to work figuratively ignoring the fact that their homes was on fire. Folks would arrive to work with stories about what they left at home that left me speechless. Missing a day at work in that area could literally mean that when you returned to work the next day, you may learn that your job has been abolished. The environment was so vicious that most felt that they were constantly in a 'fight or flight' mode. I willing to guess that somehow, he has not been able to distinguish between his 'fight for life' modes of job and health.

[militaryspouse]

83. I really hope no hypochondriacs are reading this

the is a depressing thread. My condolences to all those who lost loved ones to this disease.

I have to remind myself not to judge ppl like snow. it just wouldn't feel right, me being a healthy person and not knowing what he's going thru to cast stones. I wish his kids were a bit older. i think dying is harder on both parties, when the kids are under 18. maybe he works alot to keep his mind off of dying. Maybe he's only away from his family 2-4 hrs a day, that still leaves a good chunk of time he's spending w/ them.

[soothsayer]

78. bummer. it's sad. at least they've got snippy miss perino is ready to step right in.

[dkofos]

80. And my guess is he will go down lying!!

Sorry, I have no sympathy for anyone in this lying misadministration!!

[defendandprotect]

92. You would think that if ever, his conscience would speak loudly now --

Most of them seem to be disconnected from humanity --

[Rosemary2205]

93. Oh stop it.

I've known chemo patients who looked MUCH worse and lived YEARS longer than anyone expected them to. I've also known people who got through chemo, started looking so much better then the cancer came back with a vengence and they were dead in weeks.

Snow may die tomorrow or he may live another 30 years. You can't tell that by LOOKING at someone on chemo. You just can't.

[DFW]

94. Cancer got my dad, but he went down fighting

He was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer in February, 2000.
That is usually a quick death sentence. Instead, he lasted
until November 27th of that year, and wrote his last column
8 days before he died. If you have the will to live, it can
keep you running on empty for a long time.

While he on a course of useless chemo, a "money-saving" bit of
legislation was proposed: have Medicare cover only 85% of out-
patient chemotherapy instead of 95%. This was in the summer of
2000. My dad arranged a conference call between the (still-Clinton)
White House and then Sen. Moynihan of New York to explain to them
that this was a terrible idea, as it would force low-income cancer
patients to get their treatments as in-patients so as to get the
95% coverage. The White House and Moynihan both got the idea very
quickly. The clause was dropped from the impending legislation, and
has, to my knowledge, never reappeared.

Cancer patients can do good as well as bad.

[ronnykmarshall]

98. I'm suprised he's still working.

That is such a stressful job ... lying for Bush.

Poor guy. That's really horrible.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

99. He's aged 20 years in only a few months.

It's terribly sad.

[in_cog_ni_to]

101. I agree. He looks really bad. n/t

[MonkeyFunk]

102. Sadly

I think you're right. He has "that look".

I feel bad for him and his family.

[mitchum]

103. He's such a lackey he's allowing bushco to exploit his terminal condition...

in the hopes that the WH press corp won't be too hard on "Poor Tony" when he's catapulting the lies and prevarications.

[Ilsa]

105. I was thinking the same thing. He looks thinner, weaker, and unnourished.

He is pale and washed-out looking. I was wondering myself if he would make it through the end of the year. He might get through Christmas if he is determined. I feel bad for him and his family.

[Venus Dog]

107. BushCo probably told him his life insurance policy would be cut off

if he quit and his wife and kids would be sent to the workhouse in Indonesia.

[dogday]

110. I am locking this

Please do not post inappropriate death predictions...