I'm Larry Flynt. Don't You Love Me? Althea did.

[cherokeeprogressive]

Pervs like him prey on those poor girls/women who've been used and abused. I can almost hear it: "Hey, I'm your friend, I'm not like those OTHER people..."

"Althea met Larry at age 17 in 1971, when she applied for a job as a stripper at his club in Columbus, Ohio. Larry became interested in her when she informed him he wasn't the only one sleeping with the other strippers...

Althea began using the drugs that Larry was prescribed for pain after he was shot in 1978, and developed an addiction. She was diagnosed with AIDS in 1983; Flynt claims that she contracted the disease from a blood transfusion during a hysterectomy, and that she always used clean needles when using drugs.

Althea died when she drowned at the couple's Bel-Air mansion in Los Angeles, California on June 27, 1987. According to reports, she passed out from an overdose and drowned in the bathtub. Flynt however states that by that point she was in the final stages of AIDS and would have died within a year regardless."

Let's send him some wine, some flowers, and a few bucks to pad his already HUGE bank account, shall we?

"Our" Hero

[Zucca]

1. Dodgers have no shot!

GOOOO METS!


LOLOLOL Good luck this season, it looks like its gonna be wide open in NL!

[cherokeeprogressive]

4. All I know is at this moment, the Dodgers are blanking the Giants with two on in the ^ of the 7th.

I hope they walk Balco Barry every time he comes to the plate LOL.

Mets? We'll give 'em a hell of an LCS. I'm thinking it'll be the series that decides who's going to win the WS.

[helderheid]

7. Why on earth would it be wide open in the Netherlands? I didn't think baseball was that big there!

:shrug:
:evilgrin:

[blogslut]

2. So, don't send him any wine

n/t

[Decruiter]

3. Cheap shot, you are looking for responses, I hope you find not many.

Yes, Larry is not the paragon of virtue, but at least he stands up and uses his money to take down the politicos that campaign on their virtues and family values. I find absolutely no fault with what Larry has done. I think he is just calling a spade a spade and asking the other spades to stand up and own it.

Thank you Larry Flynt and/but I hate his magazine.

[cherokeeprogressive]

8. "Calling a Spade a Spade"

"Black as the Ace of Spades"

"Calling a Spade a Spade" is supposedly traced back to the Greeks "calling a bowl a bowl". Hmmm. When do you suppose it morphed from "bowl" to "spade", and why?

You go on loving LF. He has your best interests at heart. Bet the farm on it.

[Decruiter]

20. Cherokee, I never once said I loved Larry F. I'll bet my farm on him though

before I ever bet on you.

Peaceb to you CherokeeProgressive .....

[cherokeeprogressive]

21. Do Tell: What would you be betting your farm on? n/t

[Decruiter]

30. Anyone but you, CP, anyone but you. n/t

[muriel_volestrangler]

55. In the 16th century, due to a mistranslation

It derives from an ancient Greek expression: ta syka syka, te:n
skaphe:n de skaphe:n onomasein = "to call a fig a fig, a trough a
trough". This is first recorded in Aristophanes' play The Clouds
(423 B.C.), was used by Menander and Plutarch, and is still current
in modern Greek. There has been a slight shift in meaning: in
ancient times the phrase was often used pejoratively, to denote a
rude person who spoke his mind tactlessly; but it now, like the
English phrase, has an exclusively positive connotation. It is
possible that both the fig and the trough were originally sexual
symbols.
In the Renaissance, Erasmus confused Plutarch's "trough"
(skaphe:) with the Greek word for "digging tool" (skapheion;
the two words are etymologically connected, a trough being
something that is hollowed out) and rendered it in Latin as ligo.
Thence it was translated into English in 1542 by Nicholas Udall in
his translation of Erasmus's version as "to call a spade <...> a
spade". (Bartlett's Familiar Quotations perpetuates Erasmus'
error by mistranslating skaphe: as "spade" three times under
Menander.)

http://alt-usage-english.org/excerpts/fxtocall.html

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

5. LOL.

Apparently, DU loves it some Larry Flynt. Who knew? :shrug:

:rofl: MKJ

edited for smilies.

[Alexander]

6. Is this supposed to make me forget Vitter's hypocrisy?

Because it doesn't.

[cherokeeprogressive]

11. Great. Send the Purveyor of Porn a bottle of Dom then.

I'm sure he'll send you a PERSONALLY signed Thank You Note. Because, afterall, he's on YOUR side.

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[mzmolly]

9. I like your post because we should be careful not to elevate anyone to hero status

simply because he/she has done something we "like." Thanks for the balance and the background.

If I recall Flynt admitted to sexual encounters with chickens? I'm not sure I want him on our "team" even if I like what he's up to now.

Recommended.

[cherokeeprogressive]

16. I'm not familiar with the chicken allegation. I read once that he put on parties

where women having sex with animals were the main event, and involved his own children.

Maybe someone here should google Tonya Flynt-Vega.

Then we can joyfully read about what a big liar his OWN DAUGHTER is, after finding God.

I don't want to be a player on a team that idolizes him because they think he's out for THEIR BEST INTERESTS.

[LeftyMom]

10. So his late partner had an addiction, caught HIV (clearly not from him, as he's alive and well)

and eventually died. He stuck by her through all of it to her dying day.

What part of this makes him a bad person?

[cherokeeprogressive]

12. Um, the part where he's the purveyor of the most degrading type of depiction of women?

But hey, that's just MY opinion, as worthless as it might be.

[Ghost in the Machine]

15. I think *you* are more degrading to women than Larry Flynt is

by your implying that every woman in the world who has ever posed for a magazine or shot a porno film is some kind of helpless, easily led, drug addicted, weak willed person who just could NOT have possibly made this decision themselves, that they were somehow forced into it.

Yeah, you're a real champion of women's rights, aren't you? You imply that they can't even think for themselves.

[cherokeeprogressive]

17. MMMkay. I never IMPLIED anything at all. But you go on defending your beloved LF

"every woman in the world"...?

No, just those he preys on.

[Ghost in the Machine]

24. Oh, my mistake. So it's just the women in *Larry's* magazine. All the

others in the hundreds of other mags and movies are a-ok.. I got it now. Thanks for clearing that up...

[LeftyMom]

29. If that's the issue, why post about his long-dead partner?

Can people appreciate any good he does do, or since you have a problem with porn generally or Hustler in particular should we neglect to honor his positive contributions in other areas?

I don't think real highly of Hustler. I like porn, but I'm grown up enough to realize that not everybody likes the same things that I do in terms of sex or food or sporting events or whatever. Such is life. That doesn't mean I can't say anything nice about people who like meat or sleazy gyno shots or even the fucking Raiders (though that would be rough) and still disagree with them about other things.

[cherokeeprogressive]

33. "any good he does do"

Care to enumerate his good deeds?

[LeftyMom]

36. Apparently somebody already did, or you wouldn't have started this thread.

He exposes corrupt and hypocritical politicians. He advocates for the first amendment. He was an enemy of the late and unlamented Rev. Falwell.

[cherokeeprogressive]

43. I'm really curious to see if DUers will be so quick to come to his defense

if 20 out of the next 50 people he exposes as phonies are Dems.

I'd be more than willing to bet he or his sources will be called liars, or that his sources are called out and out liars.

Which way is the wind blowing?

[wildbilln864]

37. And it is worthless! n/t

[cherokeeprogressive]

44. So YOU say. When someone on our team is exposed, will you be as quick to defend him?

What if, in the 46 pounds of phone records, 200, 300, 500, 1000 of the phone numbers are traced back to Dems?

After all, 46 POUNDS of phone records must comprise tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of phone numbers.

You're searching the records with an unbiased state of mind, NO?

My opinion about LF is as worthless as your opinion of the destruction of the WTC towers. Argue that.

[wildbilln864]

48. What if?

If they've broken the law. If they're immoral hypocrits. I don't give a shit what party they're in! Kick them out! Procecute them if it's warranted!

[Ghost in the Machine]

13. Thank you...

I couldn't have said it better...

[eridani]

14. So, scumbags never tell the truth? Ever?

News to me.

[cherokeeprogressive]

47. Scumbags tell their own truth. Naive people eat it up like it was manna from heaven.

Larry wants you to eat it.

[eridani]

51. You might have noticed that Vitter confessed n/t

[cherokeeprogressive]

54. Six monts from now: Vitter?

[Cobalt-60]

18. Victory First!

I swear i would employ the re animated skeleton of Himmler himself if that's what it took to drive out our enemies.
I don't give a tinker's damn about what any one thinks of Mr Flynt's racket. He's getting results. It's more than I can say for the Congressional leadership.

[cherokeeprogressive]

23. "I... would employ the re animated skeleton of Himmler himself..."

That's not the way I would go about trying to make a point. Hey, but that's just me.

[Cobalt-60]

40. It was the most evil thing i could think of atm

I suppose the chicken farmer's zombie would be of little use anyway.
We need to win first and clean house later.

[cherokeeprogressive]

45. Win first and clean house later. Can that compared with "shoot first and ask questions later?"

I'll bet it can.

[davepc]

42. If you stare into the Abyss long enough the Abyss stares back at you. - Friedrich Nietzsche

[cherokeeprogressive]

46. Your argument is based on the words of a guy who died 207 years ago?

How convincing.

[davepc]

50. whats the use in stopping a monster by becomming one yourself?

you've replaced one monster with another.

stopping them at any cost! is a tactic the republicans use.

[Cobalt-60]

49. They will stop at nothing whatsoever to hold power

If we allow them to win the world will die.

[davepc]

52. why borrow the hyperbole of the right?

the world will still be here long after there is no such thing as a democrat or a republican.

[cherokeeprogressive]

53. Oooh. News Flash: The World Will Die.

We're parasites living on a piece of dirt that only orbits a star because of the chaos of dust floating in the Universe. Somewhere along the timeline of history, tiny pieces of matter left over from the Big Bang came together due to the laws of physics. Strange thing, physics. Float two things in a liquid and sooner they will come together.

This little piece of dirt is here wholly due to chance. We're parasites who've wound up on a piece of dirt circling a star we call Sol due to nothing more than blind luck.

Someday, the star we call Sol will start to fight itself due to the lack of fuel. During that time, a small piece of dirt that was once a part of universal dust (Luna) will decide to make its acquaintance known. When it collides with our little piece of dirt it and the larger piece of dirt (earth) will fragment into a million little pieces.

See Ya.

THE WORLD IS GONNA DIE.

GET IT?

[WillyT]

19. Wow... A Guy Who Strenuously Objects To Porn... Do You Have A Museum Or Anything ???

You one rarity sir!

:shrug:

[Nomad559]

22. Video: Jerry Falwell And Larry Flynt

Jerry Falwell And Larry Flynt On CNN - Larry King

(1997)

Part - 1
http://www.vidiac.com/video/24a04cba-879b-472d-a14a-992f0108ca5e.htm

Part - 2
http://www.vidiac.com/video/e7bdacd4-8b29-4ec3-9040-992f010d9c43.htm

Part - 3
http://www.vidiac.com/video/8cc5f3fb-fec4-4ce6-80a0-992f0120fbb4.htm

Part - 4
http://www.vidiac.com/video/3e575ceb-5e38-436e-a913-992f0123cc3b.htm

:)

[Catherine Vincent]

25. Welcome to DU, Larry!

:hi:

[uppityperson]

26. Personally I think donating to a worthy cause in someone's name is a better thing to do than

stuff or money. That way it goes directly to a good organization. I know, how to get DUers to agree on 1? Don't. Just donate individually and send whomever the notice. As far as Larry Flynt goes, I don't know a lot about him but I agree with whichever other DUer wrote here about the problem of elevating someone to hero status, we are all human with good and bad mixed in each of us. Express gratitude to people for their good and kind acts.

[cherokeeprogressive]

28. Google "Tonya Flynt Vega"

Then call her a liar. She IS, after all, his daughter.

Then send him a bottle of Dom. Tell him YOU think she's a liar. I'm sure he'll appreciate it.

[mondo joe]

32. Is he, or did he, violate anyone's rights?

People have all sorts of fucked up relationships.

If no one is violating another's rights, I don't see what business of ours it is.

[cherokeeprogressive]

34. No business at all, as long as he serves "our purpose", right? n/t

[mondo joe]

35. Whether he serves "our purpose" or not.

I'm pro-choice as a rule. I respect people's rights and responsibilities over their own bodies.

[wildbilln864]

38. get over your righteous self, please! eom

[Zookeeper]

39. Larry Flynt is a scumbag...

The least he can do is reveal information about his fellow scumbags.

[cherokeeprogressive]

41. In that context, I'd say I have to agree with you.

Let me rephrase that: I don't HAVE to, but I will.

Let's hope he does. And let's hope the Good People of DU recognize him for the scum he is. Let's also hope that we take his "scoops" with the skepticism that makes this place what it is.