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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 03:31 PM Original message |
Judge Walton's ruling .... |
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mohinoaklawnillinois (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
1. Probably a dumb question, but what does "supervised release" mean? |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 03:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. my guess, and i'm no lawyer, |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 03:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. As A Convicted Criminal |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. that is disgusting |
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joeunderdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:39 AM Response to Reply #5 |
57. Probation. n/t |
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catmandu57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 03:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Supervised to me anyway |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 03:49 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. yes, it means probation. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Footnote 2: |
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cassiepriam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 07:27 AM Response to Reply #7 |
60. Hope the prob officer is bribe proof. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
25. It's probation |
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PurpleChez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #25 |
72. "all normal laws will remain in place" |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 05:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
30. Supervised release = probation |
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badgerpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 08:00 PM Response to Reply #30 |
43. Hmmm...not a lawyer... |
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PurpleChez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 11:10 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. Silly liberal! Laws are for lefties! |
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cassiepriam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 07:26 AM Response to Reply #43 |
59. Yes jail time for regular people who violate probation. Who knows with Libby? |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 08:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
44. He has to carry his blackberry with him at all times. |
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pepperbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 02:00 AM Response to Reply #1 |
55. sounds like a fancy way of saying "probation"....I just don't see.... |
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dragonlady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
74. Text of the order on Libby's supervised release |
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montanto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 03:17 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. "shall not associate with any persons |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
2. Now this should be Breaking news |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
3. I still don't trust "State Secrets Privilege" Judge Walton who's now on the FISA Court... |
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southerncrone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 10:01 AM Response to Reply #3 |
68. Agree 100%. Untrustworthy. But for now, one can only hope he'll be JUST. |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
4. By Accepting The Conditions Of The Commutation |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 03:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Maybe not, but by paying the fine |
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snappyturtle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 03:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. I remember reading that the Department of Justice guidelines |
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Jim__ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. bush ignored the DOJ guidelines when he commuted the sentence. |
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snappyturtle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 04:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. Oh yeah! * is ignoring the guidelines for sure however, I just |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 12:37 AM Response to Reply #4 |
53. Well, inherently, yes because in order to commute a sentence |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
8. This wording by Judge Walton should be a warning ..... |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 03:51 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. actually, I read recently that probation itself, can include incarceration. |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. It reads like he is stating libby is under the same restraints as any other |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. The potential |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 04:15 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. I agree. I posted that on another thread... however, Walton's language here... |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 04:18 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Right. |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 04:30 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. We have rules here that limit what a Judge can give a defendant for probation violation .... |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 04:54 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. I think that |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 12:30 AM Response to Reply #29 |
52. Walton is also one of the few people who likely that know the damage done to the CIA |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 05:19 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. What Exactly Are The Terms Of Probation? |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 05:21 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. I do not |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 05:29 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. So We Are Yet To Be Informed |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 05:33 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Right. |
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jaysunb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 04:14 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. I thought so too... |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 09:50 PM Response to Reply #18 |
46. Does anyone really think that Judge Walton would demand cooperation w a GJ |
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jaysunb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 10:26 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. I don't rule anything out at this point |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 07:50 AM Response to Reply #48 |
63. that would be SO great! and poetic justice against * interference! |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 04:23 PM Response to Reply #8 |
26. Scooter got 2 years supervised release, yes |
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cassiepriam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 07:30 AM Response to Reply #26 |
62. Libby may end up wishing he had just served the 30 months. |
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TransitJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
20. h20man |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 04:20 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Thank you. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
23. I hope he violates the conditions of his probation. |
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eppur_se_muova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 04:26 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Someone needs to take him out for a few drinks ... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
31. Bravo to the good judge! |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 06:50 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. Second That n/t |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
35. Bush "admits" leak ..... |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Impeachable Offense? |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 07:16 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. He is attempting |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 07:25 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. No Words |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 07:35 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. The best thing |
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Virginian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 01:32 AM Response to Reply #40 |
54. Armitage and who else. Weren't there at least two sources? n/t |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 04:49 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Armitage, Rove, |
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TacticalPeek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
36. I could pray for a hot piss test, but that would be wrong. |
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DemSoccerMom (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 09:17 AM Response to Reply #36 |
64. Would a piss test |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
45. Thats good to read |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
47. Judge Walton rules |
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jaysunb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 10:30 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Walton is well aware of Cheney's complicity |
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cassiepriam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 07:28 AM Response to Reply #47 |
61. He should be allowed no contact with any member of the federal govt. |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-12-07 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
50. legitimacy? Hey Judge, what is legit about George Bush or Dick Cheney? |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 10:25 AM Response to Reply #50 |
70. This guy has used "State Secrets" privilege rulings to stop many folks like Sibel Edmonds... |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 06:49 AM Response to Original message |
58. Does that mean scooter can't drink alcohol with Judy Miller? |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
65. One of the |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 09:44 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. I Think They Resent The Hell Out Of This All Right |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 10:28 AM Response to Reply #65 |
71. My experience is that Fed Judges are very territorial and protective of their turf... |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
67. Good. k&r if I still can |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
69. No more felonies for you Scooter, or the Judge'll revoke your parole, and send you away. |
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freebrew (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
73. What I read between the lines: |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 03:15 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. Shortened. n/t |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
75. Thanks for the careful analysis... |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-13-07 02:58 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Lips To Ears |
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