ABC News: Did Romney's dog suffer on the car roof?

[pnwmom]

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Politics/Story?id=3329017&page=2

Dr. Russell Cumming, a professor of aerospace engineering at California Polytechnic State University:


"At that speed, assuming sea level conditions, the poor little dog would have about 10 pounds per square foot pressing against his head," said Cumming.


And in layman's terms?


"He would constantly feel a little less than 3 pounds pressing on his head for the entire trip," he added. "The windshield would help, but boy that would get tired."


Nobel Prize-winning physicist Douglas Osheroff of physics at Stanford University said the dog crate on top of the car would change the air flow around the vehicle.


"Beyond a certain velocity, the air flow becomes turbulent," said Osheroff. "The airflow isn't going to be laminar," which means it won't have a uniform distribution.


Cumming said that's bad news for Seamus.


"Chances are the windshield would only protect the front of the dog, but the air flowing around the windshield would buffet the side of the dog -- that would be tiring," said Cummings. "My wife's a vet, and she would be more worried by the dehydration of the dog's eyes under those conditions."

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[DesertRat]

1. But Mitt says his dog "likes fresh air"

:eyes:
And he says that PETA is picking on him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPpaJrJecjA

[Fridays Child]

13. Yes, Mitt, and he often showed his gratitude by gifting you with explosive diarrhea?

What a complete asshole.

[Glimmer of Hope]

33. Ugh. It is not just PETA who has a problem with this.

I think he will find out soon enough. What a dimwit.

[Skip Intro]

47. PETA - The evil animal lovers

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaagggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Duppers]

55. the sad thing

is that there are people on DU who actually think that and who trash us animal lovers!!!!!!!

[trof]

54. I like to drink water, but not from a fire hose.

Mitz a putz.

[KT2000]

2. Romney is right up there

with the idiots who leave their dogs in the back of their trucks while they drive.
Glad these fellows have chimed in - it's not funny Romney family!

[Xipe Totec]

3. I laugh when laymen get technical

the correct term is Qbar, or dynamic pressure.

But fuck that, the real problem is corneal dehydration.

That poor dog probably went blind.

[pnwmom]

18. And there would have been the return 12 hour trip, plus all the other

trips Mitt acknowledges taking with the dog on top of the car.

[MADem]

4. That might have been why the dog shit himself so vigorously, hmmm? nt

[CountAllVotes]

6. I'd probably sh*t too

If I was in a box tied to the top of a car!

This is beyond animal abuse!

This right here tells you what Romney is made of. He belongs with FRIST in JAIL!

:kick:

[poverlay]

8. LoL. We really must ride this shitstorm all the way to our vacation house in the lovely little town

of "MittisNotgonnabepresident"...

[MADem]

12. Indeed!!!!! n/t

[TwilightGardener]

44. Perfect!

[DS1]

5. I wasn't there, and don't know where the case was on the car

but I'd still be concerned about the dog getting too cold, dehydrating, being a shivering pile of scared (evidently) shitless mutt.

And I don't even like dogs. Dogs ride with you, they aren't luggage.

[MissB]

7. I think most non-dog people will recognize this isn't right.

[Betty]

9. total lack of compassion for an animal

is a warning sign. Remember that the little shit presently in the White House used to torture frogs by putting fire crackers in their mouths and blowing them up. Fucking sadists.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

10. Just what we need, another politician that has no qualms about

brutalizing another living entity... F U Mittens!

[brentspeak]

11. A twelve-hour trip, from Boston to Ontario, on the roof of a car. "But he enjoyed it".

Romney really is a dimwit.

[SammyWinstonJack]

17. I don't enjoy a 12 hour trip IN a car with a/c and or heat. I can't begin to imagine what that poor

dog suffered through. That guy is a MAJOR LEAGUE ASSHOLE! :mad:

[pnwmom]

22. Remember how the Katrina victims enjoyed their time in the football stadiums?

It's the same thing.

:shrug:

[Flirtus]

52. B - I - N - G - O ! !

You are so very correct!

[slampoet]

14. Has anybody figured out that he was probably SMUGGLING this dog into Canada?

Has anybody figured out that he was probably SMUGGLING this dog into Canada?


Every international crossing i have seen has limits on the animals that can go back and forth. The Niagra crossing to Canada is no different.

Unless Romney had some pretty involved paperwork, (or he bribed a guard) the dog would have had to stay in 30 days of quarantine.

And even if he had the paperwork I find it HIGHLY unlikely that any border guard would have let them into Canada if the guard had seen how the dog was secured to the roof.

Once you add this up, (and there are records for these border crossings that go back a long way) the story sounds almost made up.


Either that or the Romney kid just outed his dad as a Smuggler. As i recall unauthorized animals is a felony in the US and Canada.

[pnwmom]

23. Hmm. . . I think I checked once and all you needed was a proof of rabies

vaccination to bring a U.S. dog across the border.

[slampoet]

If that is so, then there will be a record of it at the Niagra border.

and there will be the signature of a guard who saw the dog strapped to the roof.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

15. I love this reply and the way freepers' heads work:

"Mitt Romney will be a great president, he can think dispassionately, with a clear head and objectively," one poster said.

That dog was on the roof for TWELVE GODDAMN HOURS! HE SHIT ON HIMSELF AND NOBODY CARED UNTIL IT DRIPPED DOWN THE BACK WINDOW OF THEIR PRECIOUS CAR!

Fuck Romney every last one of these republican bastards.

[mzmolly]

35. So, we're looking for another "dispassionate" pResident?

Interesting.

:eyes:

[pscot]

16. I volunteer to strap Mitt

to the roof of my pickup and drive 1200 miles. I've been meaning to visit my mother down in California anyway. Then he can tell us from personal experience how great it is. Gee, I hope he doesn't shit on my truck.

[durtee librul]

19. Well if he did shit on your truck, all

you'd have would be hair and eyes left of him as he is so full of it anyhow, there wouldn't be anything left.

[Gabi Hayes]

32. aaaahhhhhhh

second LOL of the day from DU!!!!!

[pnwmom]

24. And I'll help you make a windshield! n/t

[Mist]

29. I suggested that in another thread earlier today. Except I would HOPE he's shit himself. nt

[NCarolinawoman]

20. This is his Maccaca downfall.

Even Tucker Carlson said that Romney lost his vote over this.

[Mist]

31. I hope it's not to early to forecast the "macaca moment." Let's get our own

"echo chamber" going for "Dog-doo Mitt." It's the least he deserves.

[flvegan]

21. How much direct sun was he/the crate exposed to?

I'm amazed he didn't cook that dog. Wonder how they kept fresh water in the "kennel" with the dog, you know, with the sloshing.

[pnwmom]

25. I'm sure they didn't. They didn't want him to have to pee. n/t

[eleny]

26. K&R

[ChazII]

27. Too bad this story is from 1983.

While over 20 years old, it does show he lacks common sense.

[Catchawave]

36. Doesn't he want to double the size of Guantanamo Prison?

I'd say it's still a relevant story :evilgrin:

[muffin1]

53. Even though the story is old

Mittens was defending his actions YESTERDAY. So his judgment is still f*cked up. :evilfrown:

[TheCowsCameHome]

28. Ann wouldn't let the kids ride up there, so the pooch drew the short straw

[DS1]

30. The cynic in me thinks this is why the candidates are all running so early

Get the dirt out sooo far before the election, people forget. Especially when you have the media on your side. This will be forgotten by Friday next week

[Patchuli]

45. I doubt that all us animal lovers and parents

will forget this one at all. What a horrible, cruel thing to do. And this miscreant thinks people will vote for him? pffth!

[DS1]

50. The media will forget it

[Patchuli]

59. I think it should be blogged about and often!

Hey your catty looks like my catty, including the big round eyes!

[The Backlash Cometh]

34. Dogs don't crap in their crates unless something traumatic is happening to them.

[DesertRat]

40. And if they are in there for 12 hours.

[The Backlash Cometh]

42. First, it depends on the age & training of the dog.

Believe it or not, my dog has made it from 7 o'clock at night to 12:00 the next afternoon, regularly. She's a great dog.

Second, she can last that long because she's relaxed and at home with the rest of us here. She knows when it gets urgent, a nudge and a reminder is all it takes to get her out in time, so she's calm. In other words, to put a dog through a strange environment, like riding on a car roof for 12 hours is incredible. When we drive down to Miami, 4 or 5 hours, we stop to give the dog a drink because she's usually stressed out a bit. We give her her own space on her bed.

[BrklynLiberal]

37. I guess this story confirms to those who had any doubts that Mitt is an asshole.

[spooky3]

38. This man should be in jail, not running for office.

That poor animal.

And where was the little wife when this cruel decision was made (and perpetuated for hours)? Throw her in jail as well.

What a horrible example of total lack of empathy to demonstrate to their children as well.

[hedgehog]

39. Does anyone believe that in 1983 Mitt couldn't afford a second car?

Why didn't his wife drive the mutt down in a separate car?

On edit - I know Mrs. Romney has some sort of neuromuscular disease; may be she couldn't drive back then. On the other hand, I can't imagine her tolerating a 12 hour non-stop trip very well.

[Disturbed]

41. 22 hours in a box on top of a moving car on the freeway.

I gave some time for gasoline and rest stops. Now he says that the dog enjoyed this. Mittens Willard Romney is a dumb Asshole. I hope this dogs him forever. We don't need another dumb Sociopath as Pres.

[Arugula Latte]

43. God I'd like to strap that asshole Romney onto the roof of a car and drive to Salt Lake City

and then dump him in the desert and let him find his way home ... :grr:

[brettdale]

46. If A Democratic Candidate did this to thier dog

ABC News would be calling for Jail time, not having a Professor on, talking about pounds per square foot.

[dysfunctional press]

57. the media is scrambling to save their chosen one...

after all, mitt has the best "presidential look" for the tv cameras.

the dog story is going to mark the official end of the romney campaign.

[proud patriot]

48. LOL

man this is fun ... poor dog though

[badgerpup]

49. Usually that kind of incontinence indicates FEAR...

...keep in mind that the dog was NOT a human.
He was NOT thinking, "Oh, goody! Here I am, riding on the roof, going on vacation and enjoying the fresh air. YAAAY!"
The air pressure, the speed, the movement of the car, even with the windshield put the poor dog into a situation he could not make sense of and he was terrified.
Sooo...his bowels cut loose...and not just the usual doggie dump, but explosive diarrhea. Keep in mind also that MOST dogs, in a normal situation, don't simultaneously void their bladder and bowel; it's a two-step process. For them both to go at the same time and in such a manner indicates a seriously frightened animal.

The dog was NOT 'enjoying the fresh air'. He was fucking TERRIFIED.
And then he gets hosed off, and back on the road, traveling wet (can you say 'evaporative cooling'?), so now he's not only terrified, but he's getting chilled.
I wonder if the dog came down sick with something during or after the vacation.
Nah...fresh air is so good for you...:sarcasm:
:grr::nuke:

[autorank]

51. My first response to this story was that it was from the Onion

When I heard it was true, it ioccurred to me - this guy is a total wack job.

I odn't think there are more than one or two hundred people in this country who would do such a thing.
That means the other 259,000.800 of us probably find the guy repellent. He's done.

[angstlessk]

56. I too was skeptical at first .. thought it was a non reliable source..then I saw

the Boston Globe report it...my god! Then I saw it was written by a man who thought it represented something 'good' about romney??? I A FLABERGHASTED!

[deacon]

58. What a complete moron twit romney is- a very cruel man.

[barb162]

61. Yeah and he's so dumb or insensitive he probably never thought

about it.

[Bucky]

60. I really hope Romney isn't bringing his dog along on the campaign trail

That's gonna be a real rough ride.

[Disturbed]

62. Mitt says his dog "likes fresh air"

That happened in '83. His dog is still alive? Or does he still do this with other dogs he owns?