I assume the question of Executive Privilege will go the the Supreme Court.

[Jackpine Radical]

And, given the track record of that august body in recent times, I expect they will take the opportunity to right the terrible wrong done to Nixon by their predecessors.

I think, in other words, that the last bastion of American democracy, tottering on a shaky 5-4 foundation for years, has at last fallen.

[Jacobin]

1. I'm thinking the delays involved in getting to sCOTUS

are going to make all of this problematic. Once it gets there, I suspect they will show their new found royalist bent and rule that the King is the King.

[Jackpine Radical]

3. A new interpretation of la Droite de Siegnieur:

The right of the Administration to screw all of us.

[Bandit]

10. Funny how quickly GOP can get the Court to hear them when they want to be heard.

Bush* vs Gore in 2000 is one very good example... They asked the Court to hear it and low and behold that very week they heard the case...They ask the Court to delay and the case will not be heard until 2009. That is what you get when you let them pack the courts..

[spotbird]

2. Yeah, but why bother

We know the result there.

[Jackpine Radical]

6. It needs to be laid out for the public to see.

That portion of the public, anyway, which is capable of understanding whagt has just happened to us.

The only way to prove whether the system is broken is to try to use it.

[spotbird]

7. But there is no mass communication

through which to spread the word.

[Jackpine Radical]

9. You're using it right now.

I think we're about to see what the net is capable of.

[spotbird]

13. from your keyboard to

God's monitor..

[Phredicles]

20. "The only way to prove whether the system is broken is to try to use it."

Deserves repeating.

[terisan]

4. What are the grounds for impeachment of justices? I think Alito is part of the

crazy Unitary theory of the executive.

[Norquist Nemesis]

5. They annointed Bush in 2000 on a 5-4

with SDC! Is there really any question how the decision will fall???

[aquart]

8. Not necessarily. Not right away.

Obviously, it's important to avoid those filthy traitors.

[Jackpine Radical]

11. What intermediate step could possibly provide a remedy?

Justice ain't gonna do nuthin'.

[MissWaverly]

14. impreachment is the answer

Bush is not permitted to invoke executive privilege in impeachment proceedings.

I was going to call him Blush but that is not accurate, blush is what we do, Bush is what he does

[JohnnyLib2]

12. Alarming thoughts there.

Wonder if there are burkas on EBay?

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[L. Coyote]

15. If the floor vote charges contempt, it goes to the USA for DC, there required to go

before a grand jury....

So, it is a long way from such an outcome. There would have to be something to appeal from a lower court first, not?

[Jackpine Radical]

18. IOW they can drag this out forever.

Barring impeachment proceedings, of course.

[L. Coyote]

22. Congress Can Overcome Executive Privilege if Investigating Potential Crimes

Here is that discussion, just started: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1203352

FOCUS of this thread: Charging the President and Vice-President with criminal offenses.

QUESTION: Will Congress overcome Executive Privilege claims by focusing on potential criminal offenses.

Are we now just one step away from pulling impeachment out from under the table? Bush and Cheney know fully well that there has been a de facto impeachment in process with so many investigations and their focii. Have we reached to point where Dems can no longer keep impeachment under the table?

In this article, scholar of Constitutional Law, Jonathan Turley, points to the way around Executive privilege, "the way Congress can get around the executive privilege in court is to say, we're investigating a potential crime."

.................

[Virginia Dare]

17. Scalia needs to recuse himself, or be impeached...

he should have recused himself with the energy records issue, but the Senate was firmly in GOP hands at that time, it could be a little more touchy this time.

[Major Hogwash]

19. It should, I don't think anything such as "executive privilege" exists.

It it just a "boogeyman" threat the Republicans have leaned on whenever they are pressed to give over evidence that may prove they broke the law.

John Dean has expressed similar thoughts on "executive privilege" as well.

[Bitwit1234]

21. The supreme court set a precedent when President Clinton

could not claim executive privilege in the civil case so how can they set it in this case with national law breaking.

[Jackpine Radical]

23. A different court, a different President.

This bunch in the SC apparently doesn't feel much need to attend to trivial things like precedent and consistency.