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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 09:05 PM
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*John Perkins on CSPAN2 now! 10pm - new book - Secret History of US Empire*
The Secret History of the American Empire

Author: John Perkins

Saturday, June 23, at 10:00 PM
Sunday, June 24, at 12:00 PM

John Perkins talks about his follow-up to his 2005 book, "Confessions of an Economic Hitman," at Barnes & Noble in New York City. In his new book, Mr. Perkins argues that the United States uses its foreign policy to further U.S. business interests around the globe, often to the detriment of poor countries.

John Perkins is the founder and chairman of Dream Change, a nonprofit organization that promotes sustainable development. He is a former international business consultant.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 09:08 PM
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1. Hi Viva LaNonViolent SocialRevolution CauseItsAbout FuckinTime!
:evilgrin:
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 09:10 PM
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2. hi!
:rofl:
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 09:12 PM
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3. K & R
:kick:
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 09:13 PM
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4. I'm in! Thanks Viva!
Edited on Sat Jun-23-07 09:14 PM by IndyOp
Do we have a unifying principle for societal change?

This should be interesting...

:hi:
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 09:13 PM
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5. Man, this is good!
Edited on Sat Jun-23-07 09:15 PM by Gregorian
He's even bringing up how the US makes 30% of the world's pollution. It's a failure!

How did this happen. And how can we change it.


I've seen this guy talking before. Economic hitmen. That was on Linktv. It was very revealing.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 09:16 PM
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6. 5% of world population,
using 25% of the world's resources, and creating 30% of world pollution.

disgusting :cry:
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 09:21 PM
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7. The Miniature Earth
If the world's population were reduced to 100, it would look something like this:

http://www.miniature-earth.com /



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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 09:23 PM
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8. You can't imagine my disgust.
There aren't many who see what I see. I have reached a level beyond which I am afraid I cannot go. I have been wondering if one can die due to disgust.

This car society is disgusting in a way I cannot convey. Most people don't see it. One must have been born with the ability. And one must also be at the mercy of it, to get it's full effect. Ride a bike to work for a decade, and just see and feel it. It's violent. It's ugly. And that is only one facet of the society.

Right now I'm trying to find ways to transcend or eliminate the disgust. I'm finding that since the recent real estate invasion of the countrysides, there is nowhere to turn. Even with a million dollars I cannot find a place that is free of the visual and audible pollution. I know, poor pitiful rich me. Actually, that's not rich any more. Enough. I honestly don't know how to rid myself of this poisonous hatred. In fact I just emailed an irritated and angry email to a realtor who isn't able to get off his ass and just send me a map. I could go on for hours with this conversation. I could tell a hundred stories. And I doubt anyone would want to listen. So I'll shut up.

I want to go back. Not before novocaine. Not before penicillin. Just a slower way. And it isn't going to happen. Not soon. And not without great suffering. Argh!
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 09:35 PM
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10. If you buy land for a commune... I am so there...
Edited on Sat Jun-23-07 09:36 PM by Viva_La_Revolution
I just want a quiet, hard working, satisfying life.

It has to have internet access though. :evilgrin:


I got rid of my car 5 years ago, because it was just so not necessary. Now my new boss is hinting that I need a vehicle if I want to lead a crew. I don't have the heart to tell him I will find a different line of work before I will chain myself to one of those things again.

edit: spelling :blush:
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 10:12 PM
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26. I just looked at property in Siletz today.
Edited on Sat Jun-23-07 10:13 PM by Gregorian
It's on a river. But really isolated. I didn't go there. Just by map and internet. It's rather hard to find anything these days. There was a farm in Beaver that I liked, but it appears to have sold this week. People are still buying land. Not houses in San Diego, but land is almost impossible to find. I had to say this because I see you're from the Portland area. I so much want to live just like we did up until only a few years ago. Silence and working on a farm. I just sold a place like that. It was once a beautiful place, but is now just a mess of logging noises. I couldn't stay. And I'm still deeply saddened by the loss. I know. Boo hoo. I've got it easy in some respects. I just wish I were blindly stupid like the drones who all go to work every day. I used to be one. I feel like The Prisoner. I've resigned. Now I don't fit in anywhere.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 10:27 PM
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28. we will find our place, someday.
I've done a lot of work lately outside of the valley, like rural Yamhill and at the coast (Waldport). The drives have been beautiful, informative and disturbing. Going around a bend, lush forest lining both sides of the road... and you come upon a logged/raped mountain-side. Heartbreaking.

:toast: To simpler times!
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 09:33 PM
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9. He's optimistic that we can and do change the behavior of corporations.
And he's right. The corporations that resisted air bags. And now we have them.

This is why they depend upon the media to lie to us and keep us in the dark.

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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 09:38 PM
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11. Damn - did you hear the Mitsubishi story? The exec who thanked the
Rainforest Action leader? The exec had always wanted to do the right thing but was afraid of losing his job and the pressure of Rainforest Action made his company set up a committee that led Mitsubishi to do the right thing. Wow.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 10:04 PM
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23. That is wonderful inside information. Very telling.
All is not what meets the eyes.

When I heard him talking about that, I immediately thought of Cheney and Rove. The fear they send down the ranks. They have invisible pistols aimed at everyone in the administration. Rule by fear and force.

I too sae the bully beat up in elementary school. And it was sad to see him cry. But very revealing.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 09:39 PM
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12. Argh! I missed most of it -- there is a great VP segment
w/ Mondale on CSPAN1.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 09:42 PM
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15. It's on tomorrow at 12 noon EDT - so morning for you on the West Coast...
12:00 PM EDT
The Secret History of the American Empire
John M. Perkins , Dream Change

:hi:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 09:46 PM
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20. Thank you, IndyOp!
:hi:
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 09:40 PM
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13. Wow - who is Rosa Parks? She is you. Who is Rachel Carson? She is you.
I've got to read "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" :applause:
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 09:44 PM
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17. It's a must-read
it's one of those that will really piss you off, learning what we have done, but things every American should know.
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OKDem08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 09:42 PM
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14. That was really weird!
I was watching John Perkins talking to an audience about his book. I read Confessions of an Economic Hitman last weekend & was looking forward to hearing him speak. He began talking about 9/11 & he was literally cut off mid-sentence. The screen went black and then to context saying that the views expressed did not reflect those of Cox Communications or that of their employees. Anybody else have this happen?
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 09:43 PM
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16. He is still talking on C-SPAN2... I've not heard anything about 9/11. (n/t)
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 09:45 PM
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18. I have Comcast
no interruption here.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 09:46 PM
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19. thank you so very much
inspirational!
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 09:54 PM
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21. Freeper? question during q&a
'you talk about the bad things we do, but not the creative things'.

the rest of his question was just... :rofl:

even the audience was giggling...
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entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 09:59 PM
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22. Thanks - Viva La Revolution
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 10:06 PM
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24. Perkins for President!
I could almost get behind that. :)
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 10:10 PM
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25. Really brave comment about Israel...
Some Arabs and Israelis believe that the nation of Israel was "created" post WWII and is being used as a base from which to control Middle East Oil.

Israel is, of course, there because Jews have lived there for over 5,000 years and I've long believed that modern Israel has been used and used and used terribly by the corporate elite who want control of the oil.

Americans are being used by the corporate elite -- military-industrial-congressional complex -- and Israelis are being used, too.

WE GOTTA GET THE TRUTH OUT THERE AND DAMNED FAST.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 10:15 PM
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27. When MomCat was still here and there was the attack on Lebanon
I set out to catch peacemaking stories and links from Israel. I started on a Friday. By Sunday, my Friday stories had been mostly scrubbed. It was a big eye opener that I've never been able to really communicate. :shrug:
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 11:00 AM
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29. Replay on now SUNDAY 12noon Eastern nt
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