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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:03 PM
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Frontline starting in Houston now, PBS, Endgame (Iraqi Surge). nt
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:04 PM
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1. I'm watching now,too
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:06 PM
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2. Excellent! nt
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:09 PM
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3. I'm watching it in DC area- this is a devastating expose.
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:10 PM
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4. it will make you sick
i wanted to reach thru the tube and strangle freddie kagan.

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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:12 PM
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5. Rumsfeld chose Casey to take over from Sanchez- but nobody knew
anything about him and he had never led troops in battle.

He was supposed to keep a lid on things during political season.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:13 PM
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6. Col William Hix is interviewed (assistant to Casey)
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:15 PM
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7. "light footprint"- the directive from Rumsfeld to Casey
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:16 PM
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8. In the first five minutes, some knucklehead said that Rumsfeld
Edited on Tue Jun-19-07 09:30 PM by Ilsa
was passive, as is the position of SecDef. ridiculous. Every other account of Rumsferatu indicates he is a bully.

On edit: the knucklehead was Zelikow, State Dept.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:17 PM
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9. al sadr went on a rampage- got a deal with the Americans-
casey spent millions buying back weapons and reconstruction costs
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:18 PM
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10. Oh man, they play clips of the chimps voice as the strategy kept changing....
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:19 PM
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11. Oh, monkeyman, I miss you tonight
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:22 PM
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12. Shrub thanking the "architect" Karl Rove after the election
:puke::puke::puke::puke::puke:

Meanwhile, back in Iraq- violence escalated- most intense combat since Vietnam war
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:24 PM
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13. Fallejah resulted in a resurgence of optimism- Chimp gloats and thought
they had beaten the insurgency for good....

then U.S. soldier shooting an unarmed man... heartbreaking....

this turned insurgency even stronger against U.S.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:25 PM
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14. This is excellent-Bush looks like the lying piece of shit that he is.
they all look like evil,soulless bastards...rice,rumsfeld.will anyone notice now?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:30 PM
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17. Who will see this? I'm really sorry I didn't send a link to my 'friends'
who think this 'war' is going swimmingly.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:31 PM
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19. I have tivoed it....will supply copies for anyone who misses it...within reason ;)
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:27 PM
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15. Where is Casey tonight? Why hasn't he bared his soul for the shit
that transpired in his name?
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:28 PM
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16. Rice jumps in the fray- goes up against Rummy on the talk shows.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:31 PM
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18. the "clear, hold, and build" strategy was effective
Lesson of Talafar- McMasters did it the right way

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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:34 PM
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20. Rice promoting "clear, hold and build" on Hill was an unprecedented challenge
to Sec of Defense- Rummy and Casey didn't like it

Insight into the disarray of the administration.

Chimps voice: "We are winning"
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:36 PM
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21. The DIM ONE sounds so intolerably STUPID in the midst of the carnage!
Edited on Tue Jun-19-07 09:37 PM by babylonsister
Talking about democracy and freedom, when that's the last thing that's happening.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:37 PM
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23. I was thinking the same thing.what a piece of pure,unadulterated ...well,you know.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:41 PM
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25. Oh, history is not going to be kind.....
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:37 PM
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22. The denial in WH began to crumble- chimps ratings in free fall
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:41 PM
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26. Yet here we are. Fucked up, or what? nt
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:41 PM
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27. I was just thinking...I say "Fuck" a lot more these days
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:42 PM
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28. Hugs, because I 'NEVER' did, until I met DU and dimson. nt
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bananarepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 09:33 AM
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41. Whenever I see a Republic*nt on the tube I now go into 'Terret's' mode!
An uncontrollable stream of abuse is hurled at the TV set.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:40 PM
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24. The blivet's 'inherent unwillingness' to consider any other course.
Staying The Course.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:44 PM
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29. Here's the crux: the 'surge'. nt
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:44 PM
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30. The Republicans were BEGGING the blivet to throw Rumsfeld overboard
before the 2006...

Bush's "thumping" speech... Rumsfeld discarded
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:48 PM
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32. did you catch the irony--Rumsfield was the strongest Dem allie--as Rummy did
not want more troops.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:50 PM
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35. Yes, but the emotions were so high and people were so angry it
seemed like a great breakthrough at the time.... "who knew" they were about to surge- the opposite of what Americans wanted
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:47 PM
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31. The "surge" was supposed to be a "clear, hold, and build" strategy
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:48 PM
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33. Dick Cheney is "Moby Dick" of the administration-
OMG, confirmation that Cheney calls the shots
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:50 PM
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34. General Keane & Frederick Kagan talked to *, then went to VP:
meeting was decisive, the surge was on, but it's called 'a dribble' by one knowledgeable man.

Jeebus! Why was Kagan even there?
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:51 PM
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36. "Army Chief of Staff" is consolation prize for firing Casey
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:53 PM
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37. Surge will be at full force by July 4- no one knows how it will end
So much at stake....
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:55 PM
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38.  I want to scream in frustration after watching this
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 10:38 PM
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39. Join the club...do like I do-"scream" in print...my latest ltte
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 07:49 AM
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40. Great letter, w8liftinglady.
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