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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 11:06 PM
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What would this country have been like if Bush, Rove and Cheney were Founding Fathers?
:wow: :scared: :wow: :scared: :wow: :scared: :wow: :scared: :wow: :scared: :wow: :scared:


Now thats one scary fucked up thought! :yoiks:
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 11:10 PM
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1. The Roamn Empire! Although this country would never still
exist today! It would have destroyed itself long ago the sams as the mighty Roman Empire did long ago!
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CC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 11:11 PM
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2. They would of been elite Tories
and never ever had the balls to think about fighting for freedom from King George, and that's before thinking about the fact they wouldn't have to brains to see things any differently.




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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 11:16 PM
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5. They're always bragging about being related to the British Royals...


... and the Saudi Roils.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 11:12 PM
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3. God Save The Queen!


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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 11:16 PM
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4. They would have sailed to England
Life would be just too tough for them in the colonies. Heck they may have had to actually fight!
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JustFiveMoreMinutes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 11:17 PM
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6. Bush would have turned down 'king' like Washington did
... but he'd gone for Emperor instead. <wink>
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 11:18 PM
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7. Much better.
They'd have been arrested, deported, or otherwise taken care of by the other Founders, and American history would have been free of them.
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baldingrockwarlord2 Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 11:21 PM
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8. even scarier yet:
what if they ARE the founding fathers......of America 2.0 the new world order....?
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 11:27 PM
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11. OH GOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!
:nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:
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That is even more scary!
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 11:22 PM
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9. We'de have stories about Paris, instead of the JCS being fired...
.. during a 'war', Turkey in Iraq, super-fast global warming...
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 11:26 PM
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10. Something akin to Conan.


With lots of UrNAZIs.



... and Jeff Gannon would be there, too.



Slavemasters would have it made over everybody making less than, say, $1 mill per.

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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 11:34 PM
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12. Probably Something Like This, Or Worse...






<snip>

So I fired up "The Google" and dug up the original FBI report just to make sure Professor Noakes was right. The original document was a bit hard to read so I transcribed it for your reading pleasure (I did this for free, maybe I am a pinko):


To: The Director

D.M. Ladd

COMMUNIST INFILTRATION OF THE MOTION PICTURE INDUSTRY

(RUNNING MEMORANDUM)



There is submitted herewith the running memorandum concerning Communist infiltration of the motion picture industry which has been brought up to date as of May 26, 1947....

With regard to the picture "It's a Wonderful Life", stated in substance that the film represented rather obvious attempts to discredit bankers by casting Lionel Barrymore as a "scrooge-type" so that he would be the most hated man in the picture. This, according to these sources, is a common trick used by Communists.

In addition, stated that, in his opinion, this picture deliberately maligned the upper class, attempting to show the people who had money were mean and despicable characters. related that if he made this picture portraying the banker, he would have shown this individual to have been following the rules as laid down by the State Bank Examiner in connection with making loans. Further, stated that the scene wouldn't have "suffered at all" in portraying the banker as a man who was protecting funds put in his care by private individuals and adhering to the rules governing the loan of that money rather than portraying the part as it was shown. In summary, stated that it was not necessary to make the banker such a mean character and "I would never have done it that way."

recalled that approximately 15 years ago, the picture entitled "The Letter" was made in Russia and was later shown in this country. He recalled that in this Russian picture, an individual who had lost his self-respect as well as that of his friends and neighbors because of drunkenness, was given one last chance to redeem himself by going to the bank to get some money to pay off a debt. The old man was a sympathetic character and was so pleased at his opportunity that he was extremely nervous, inferring he might lose the letter of credit or the money itself. In summary, the old man made the journey of several days duration to the bank and with no mishap until he fell asleep on the homeward journey because of his determination to succeed. On this occasion the package of money dropped out of his pocket. Upon arriving home, the old man was so chagrined he hung himself. The next day someone returned the package of money to his wife saying it had been found. draws a parallel of this scene and that of the picture previously discussed, showing that Thomas Mitchell who played the part of the man losing the money in the Capra picture suffered the same consequences as the man in the Russian picture in that Mitchell was too old a man to go out and make money to pay off his debt to the banker.

<snip>

Link: http://www.wisebread.com/fbi-considered-its-a-wonderful-life-communist-propaganda#memo1

:shrug:


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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 11:37 PM
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13. Well, for starters, you'd've lost the Revolution... (nt)
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 11:40 PM
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14. Well, it was Benjamin Franklin who talked the French into helping us
Had they been in charge the French would have been helping the Brits! :rofl:
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 11:42 PM
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15. It would be dead no later than 1800
They would have been immediately bought off by the British.
First citizen and Cheney son in law benedict Arnold would broker the deal.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 11:44 PM
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16. Like Nazi Germany circa 1930's?
:shrug:

Oh wait...we're almost there, save habeaus corpus!
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 11:45 PM
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17. A Fascist Dictatorship; A tyranny; A Plutocracy; An Aristocracy, IOW
all the forms of government that the founding fathers strove to guard against!
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Californian Dreamer Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 11:51 PM
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18. Might not have been so bad
I mean, in that it couldn't have ended up successful or lasted long. :)

I'm not that good at alternative history, but I'm sure it could have set the stage for any number of interesting scenarios. A fascist state that rose and fell on the heels of the enlightenment? We could have ended up with a new America with an even stronger constitution, or a collection of native american states, or maybe just Canada and Mexico would have ended up much bigger.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 02:10 AM
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19. On the next... Outer Limits! n/t
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 09:52 AM
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20. The English would had to have a London Tea Party ...
and sign a Declaration of Independence from Mad King George.

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