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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 09:44 PM
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Bush's buddy Bandar in some hot water?
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One of Bush's buddies, Prince Bandar bin Sultan of Saudi Arabia.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Bandar_bin_Sultan#C...


Saudi prince 'received arms cash'

Arms deals with the Saudis have been worth billions to the UK
A Saudi prince received secret payments from the UK's biggest arms dealer, a BBC investigation has revealed.


The purpose of one of the accounts was to pay the expenses of the Prince's private Airbus.

David Caruso, an investigator who worked for the American bank where the accounts were held, said Prince Bandar had been taking money for his own personal use out of accounts that seemed to belong to his government.

~snip~

"Hundreds of thousands and millions of dollars were involved," he added.

CONTINUED: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6728773.stm

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monktonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 09:46 PM
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1. Surprise!!!
these are the guys who taught Bush and family how to be scumbags.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 09:49 PM
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2. Big surprise - another armsdealing BFEE member. Who here thinks that Poppy Bush woke up
one day in Jan 1993 and decided he and his cabal would STOP dealing in arms, drugs and terrorism just because he was no longer in the WH?

And how many here think he and his 'friends' have retired from manipulating world players to further the global fascist agenda?
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Decruiter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 10:49 PM
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9. Umm, BLM, not me!! What the hell is it ever going to take? n/t
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 09:18 AM
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16. Good - because there are a bunch of people here who think that Poppy Bush
Edited on Thu Jun-07-07 09:19 AM by blm
actually lost power in 1992, and was no longer pulling the strings of this country and the world's politics.

In fact, he was STRENGTHENING his control the entire time Clinton was in office, and doing it WITHOUT the scrutiny he had been getting from Senate and Congressional Dems on IranContra, BCCI and Iraqgate investigations that had dogged him as president.

Then look what came of it:

http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 02:25 PM
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24. What does BFEE stand for? Bush Family something?
Pardon my ignorance, but just curious what the acronym stands for.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 03:47 PM
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29. Been around for many years - Bush Family Evil Empire
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 04:52 PM
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33. Thanks. Makes sense now. n/t
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 11:14 AM
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36. Kinda covers the last 5 decades of machinations by them and their cronies.
Actually goes back much further but the documents and 'coincidences' really start adding up post WW2.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 09:57 PM
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3. BAE Systems
BAE Systems Recieves $35 Million For HAARP Program

June 14 2004

Washington (SPX) Jun 14, 2004 - The Office of Naval Research has awarded BAE Systems a $35.4 million contract to manufacture 132 high frequency (HF) transmitters for installation in the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program's (HAARP) phased array antenna system. The contract was finalized April 19 with BAE Systems Information & Electronic Warfare Systems in Washington, D.C.

The HAARP program collects and assesses data to advance knowledge of the physical and electrical properties of the Earth's ionosphere. "We look forward to contributing to this critical program. This is an opportunity for BAE Systems to play an important role in expanding knowledge of the Earth's ionosphere.

Significant potential applications include long-range communication, sensing and satellite vulnerability to nuclear effects," said Ramy Shanny, BAE Systems vice president and general manager for Advanced Technologies (AT).

In 1992, AT was awarded a contract to design and build the Ionospheric Research Instrument (IRI), the HAARP program's primary tool used to study ionospheric physics. The IRI is currently composed of 48 antenna elements and has a power capacity of 960,000 watts.

When installed, the additional 132 transmitters will give HAARP a 3.6 mega-watt capacity. The HAARP build-out is jointly funded by the U.S. Air Force, the U.S. Navy and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA).
more
http://www.spacedaily.com/news/missiles-04zi.html


BAE SYSTEMS North America has reached a definitive agreement with Advanced Power Technologies, Inc. (APTI), to purchase the corporation for $27 million in cash.

APTI, a private company with headquarters in Washington, D.C., focuses on intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance exploitation and information processing for defence, civil and commercial uses. APTI's core competencies include radio frequency (RF) and optical engineering, communications and networking, signal and data exploitation and knowledge creation.

Other disciplines include microwave engineering; antenna design and development; optical sensors, plasma and shock physics; advanced ordnance systems; non-destructive testing; signal and image processing; and digital control systems, including industrial-based process controls.

...

Mark Ronald, president and chief executive officer, BAE SYSTEMS North America said, "APTI's demonstrated performance, growth and high quality technical workforce align well with BAE SYSTEMS growth strategy in network centric warfare and information operations.

...

About BAE SYSTEMS:

BAE SYSTEMS is a systems company, innovating for a safer world. BAE SYSTEMS employs nearly 100,000 people including joint ventures, and has annual sales of around $19 billion. The company offers a global capability in air, sea, land and space with a world-class prime contracting ability supported by a range of key skills. BAE SYSTEMS designs, manufactures and supports military aircraft, surface ships, submarines, radar, avionics, communications, electronics, guided weapon systems and a range of other defence products.

BAE SYSTEMS is dedicated to making the intelligent connections needed to deliver innovative solutions.
more
http://www.globenet.free-online.co.uk/index.htm


How and why was electronic warfare carried out in rural Tennessee?

From the known profile of electronic weaponry, the electronic attack upon WJKM appears to have been caused by a tactical electromagnetic weapon, emitting a directed electromagnetic plasma, beam, pulse, etc. at the target. Electronic weapons with this capability are known, and can be land mounted in a facility like the former power plant, mounted in portable facilities like vans, trucks, helicopters or airplanes.

Electronic weapons may even be space-based, on satellite platforms. This reporter has personally met with an Assistant Secretary of Defense at the Pentagon who confirmed the existence of such secret space-based weapons as early as 1977.

An alternative electronic warfare delivery system may involve newly constructed relays for the HAARP installation in Alaska. The potential tactical electronic warfare applications of HAARP are under investigation. Serious public interest researchers maintain that HAARP's electromagnetic energy may cause effects such as earthquakes, such as occurred on July 7 in Hartsville. Electromagnetic weapons have been used in tectonic warfare, intentionally causing earthquakes. Electromagnetic pulse energy accompanies most earthquakes. Research shows that ultra low frequencies emitted by the HAARP installation may affect the human limbic system, and be used for mood management and mind control.

The close resemblance of the Hartsville attack to other U.S. Air Force electronic warfare led to speculation that radio station WJKM may have been chosen as a test target for a clandestine electronic warfare unit located within the power facility, or to which the power facility serves as electronic relay point. The likelihood that the electronic attack was accidental, rather than an intentional military test, is low, given that the targets were media outlets.
more
http://www.ecologynews.com/cuenews31.html


BAE Systems is Europe's largest arms exporter. BAE Systems is dedicated to producing innovative and high-specification ways of killing and maiming people. Satisfied BAE customers include Saddam Hussein in Iraq, General Pinochet in Chile, and the House of Saud. Are you a feudal Middle Eastern dictatorship that tortures your political opponents - and innocent British citizens? BAE Systems says: No problem! We just want your cash.
more
http://www.angloarabia.com /

Carlyle Interested in BAE's Shipbuilding Unit, Telegraph Says
July 25 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. buyout firm Carlyle Group, whose senior advisers have included former President George H.W. Bush, has expressed interest in buying BAE Systems Plc's shipbuilding business, the Sunday Telegraph reported, without citing sources.

The paper said Carlyle hasn't decided if an offer would include BAE's submarine operations at Barrow-in-Furness, England, and the sale of Britain's only submarine business to a foreign company may be politically sensitive.

BAE's Chief Executive Mike Turner said July 12 that Europe's largest weapons maker is in talks with several ``interested parties'' about selling its unprofitable shipbuilding unit, which makes Type 45 destroyers and Astute submarines. The company hasn't yet outlined what assets would be included in a sale.

Any bidder for Barrow would compete with DML, which runs the Devonport Royal Dockyard, and is 51 percent owned by Halliburton Co., the oilfield contractor led by Vice President Dick Cheney before he returned to politics in 2000, the paper said. The U.K.'s VT Group Plc has also said it's interested in BAE's shipbuilding yards in Barrow and Glasgow, Scotland.
more
http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000102&sid=a ...

From The Sunday Times
Snip
David Leppard and Robert Winnett

BRITAINS biggest defence company has been accused by a whistleblower of operating a 60m slush fund to channel bribes to members of Saudi Arabias royal family. BAE Systems now faces a criminal investigation over allegations that it used Peter Gardiner, a reputable travel agent from St Albans, Hertfordshire, to lavish its Saudi clients with gifts and luxury holidays.

Gardiner has given details of the payments in interviews with the Serious Fraud Office (SFO). Speaking publicly for the first time, he told The Sunday Times that he had spent 60m on BAEs behalf. It was an enormous amount of money. Its more a question of what we didnt spend it on than what we did, said Gardiner.

The slush fund spent by Gardiner over 13 years from 1989 and 2002 provided a 170,000 Rolls-Royce, other luxury cars, London apartments, private air travel and accommodation in five-star hotels in Hawaii, Los Angeles, Paris and New York. Under separate arrangements, middlemen also arranged prostitutes for some dignitaries.

The largesse was extended to Saudi officials and members of the countrys large royal family who controlled the kingdoms arms procurement, the chief source of BAEs income over the past 18 years.
more
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1190953,00...

By Sylvia Pfeifer (Filed: 25/07/2004)

An American private equity group with close links to the Bush administration has emerged as a leading contender to acquire the shipbuilding business of BAE Systems, Britain's largest defence company.

Carlyle, which specialises in defence deals, is known for its links to the White House.

Until last year it counted George Bush Sr, the former US president, among its advisers. George W Bush, the US president, once served on the board of directors of Caterair, an airline catering company owned by Carlyle. James Baker, the former US secretary of state, and John Major, the former prime minister, both hold senior positions in the private equity group.

Carlyle has not yet decided whether its possible offer would include BAE's submarine operations at Barrrow-in-Furness. However, the sale of what is Britain's only submarine business to a foreign company could be politically sensitive.

Any bidder for Barrow will face competition from DML, the company that runs the Devonport Royal Dockyard. DML is 51 per cent owned by Halliburton, the US oil services company that used to be run by Dick Cheney, the US vice-president.


Analysts say one possibility would be for DML to link up with either VT or Carlyle to buy the yards. However, it is still not certain that BAE will proceed with the sale. The company has yet to issue a formal sales memorandum
more
http://www.money.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/...

The defence firm and the slush fund
Robert Winnett and David Leppard

FOR the Saudi princes and princesses it was just another luxury trip to the paradise island of Oahu in Hawaii. Under the shadow of Diamond Head, the islands volcano, they enjoyed the run of one of the worlds best hotels while spending thousands in gourmet restaurants and designer boutiques.

The party of 50 people checked into its usual floor of suites at the Kahala Mandarin Oriental hotel. It has its own dolphins in a private blue lagoon, spas and beach butlers to provide face sprays, cooling drinks and sunshades. They hired a fleet of cars and after a few days travelled in a private Boeing 707 to another Hawaiian island, Maui, to stay at the five-star Grand Wailea hotel. The total cost of the trip in August 1998 was more than 250,000, including 25,000 on car hire.

For the Saudis, such holidays are part of the trappings of their royal status and influence in the oil-rich desert kingdom. But the trip to Oahu and similar jaunts are now attracting the attention of Britains Serious Fraud Office (SFO).

This weekend, details of the trip and others funded by BAE Systems, Britains biggest defence company, have been disclosed by a whistleblower to The Sunday Times.
more
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,176-1190346,0 ...


BAE probed on 60m Saudi slush fund
From The Sunday Times
Snip
David Leppard and Robert Winnett

BRITAINS biggest defence company has been accused by a whistleblower of operating a 60m slush fund to channel bribes to members of Saudi Arabias royal family. BAE Systems now faces a criminal investigation over allegations that it used Peter Gardiner, a reputable travel agent from St Albans, Hertfordshire, to lavish its Saudi clients with gifts and luxury holidays.

Gardiner has given details of the payments in interviews with the Serious Fraud Office (SFO). Speaking publicly for the first time, he told The Sunday Times that he had spent 60m on BAEs behalf. It was an enormous amount of money. Its more a question of what we didnt spend it on than what we did, said Gardiner.

The slush fund spent by Gardiner over 13 years from 1989 and 2002 provided a 170,000 Rolls-Royce, other luxury cars, London apartments, private air travel and accommodation in five-star hotels in Hawaii, Los Angeles, Paris and New York. Under separate arrangements, middlemen also arranged prostitutes for some dignitaries.

The largesse was extended to Saudi officials and members of the countrys large royal family who controlled the kingdoms arms procurement, the chief source of BAEs income over the past 18 years.

From:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1190953,00 ...

BAE wins 1bn Hawk contract

from the Guardian
Wednesday September 3, 2003
BAE Systems, Britain's biggest weapons maker, today clinched a contentious 1bn order to supply Hawk training aircraft to India, in a contract for which Tony Blair personally lobbied.
The deal, in negotiation for more than a decade, has sparked much political contention in Britain.
(snip)
Critics have argued that the sale lays the British government open to charges of hypocrisy, as it was pushing for a big arms deal at the same time as playing peacemaker between India and Pakistan over the disputed territory of Kashmir.
ales to India and Pakistan, despite political tension between the two regional rivals.

more
http://www.guardian.co.uk/india/story/0,12559,1034880,0...

400 boxes of documents --- from Travellers World

Although such hospitality is considered routine in some Third World countries, it is a criminal offence for British companies to pay bribes to overseas officials. Fraud investigators are also concerned about the way the payments were described in the companys accounts.
The SFO is now studying Gardiners statement, together with the contents of nearly 400 boxes of documents that he has volunteered from Travellers World, his company.

Last week Gardiner said his company had acted entirely properly. He approached the SFO in March and has been helping them and the police uncover full details of the slush fund since then. The possibility of a criminal investigation into BAE marks a new low for the defence company, once the darling of new Labour. It has fallen out of favour after being accused of massive overspending on a series of Ministry of Defence contracts.

Gardiners evidence spans much of the period of the Al-Yamamah arms deal, Britains biggest export contract. It resulted in the sale of more than 20 billion worth of aircraft, such as Tornado and Hawk jets, and other military equipment to the oil-rich state.

Whitehall officials said last week they were shocked by the scale of the alleged slush fund. The government is determined to show that all cases of alleged corruption will be fully investigated, but the case is highly sensitive.
more
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1190953,00 ...


UK arms firm's 60m Saudi slush fund
Police inquiry into arms firm's 60m slush fund

David Leigh and Rob Evans
Tuesday May 4, 2004
The Guardian

...

Files have been seized by Ministry of Defence police alleging corruption on a massive scale by Britain's biggest arms firm, BAE Systems. Payments totalling more than 60m to prominent Saudis are listed, a far greater amount than has been previously alleged.
MoD fraud squad detectives investigating allegations of bribery of a civil servant have seized 386 boxes of "slush fund" accounts.

Most explosively, the documents detail 17m in benefits and cash allegedly paid by BAE, which is chaired by Sir Dick Evans, to the key Saudi politician in charge of British arms purchases, Prince Turki bin Nasser. He is recorded under the codename "PB", alleged to mean "principal beneficiary".

BAE is trying to secure another 1.5bn of arms deals from the Saudi regime, following the sale of planes, missiles and warships worth 50bn to them over the past 15 years.

The documents list by name every Saudi official alleged to have received benefits from BAE in recent years. These include a number of military attaches at Saudi Arabia's London embassy, recorded as being provided with luxury London houses at BAE's expense.
more
http://www.guardian.co.uk/armstrade/story/0,10674,12090...

BAE Systems is offering its staff in Saudi Arabia an extra 1,000 a month in an attempt to stop the exodus of staff, one employee has told BBC News Online. The indefinite monthly payment follows a one-off payment of 4,500 in December after housing compounds were bombed in May 2003, killing 35 people.

The security situation has deteriorated since then. Earlier this month al-Qaeda militants beheaded an American engineer they had been holding hostage.

The British-owned defence firm made the 1,000 cash offer in an e-mail to each of its 2,400 staff in Saudi Arabia, describing it as an "emergency security payment", the employee said.

The employee said that people have been on edge since the housing compounds came under fire in May 2003 but that employees were encouraged to stay on the payroll to get the lump-sum offer in December.
more
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3837407.stm

Includes replies to:
"Are you an expatriate working in Saudi Arabia? Are you pondering to leave or is the security situation still under control? And how is your company persuading you to stay? Tell us your experiences.At the request of our readers in Saudi Arabia e-mailing us their stories, all names have been withheld"


US war system reaps $2bn for BAE

David Gow
Saturday July 19, 2003
The Guardian

BAE Systems, Britain's biggest defence manufacturer, yesterday secured its place at the heart of the Pentagon's visionary new electronic warfare programme, with a contract from Boeing worth up to $2bn.

It is seen by the Pentagon as capable of delivering a precise firepower that will dwarf the "shock and awe" seen in Iraq this year.
BAE's selection, along with Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman and Raytheon, America's biggest defence contractors, buttresses its ambition to become a substantial US military supplier.

The company, at loggerheads with the British government, has made no secret of its ultimate plans for merger with the big US players such as Boeing or Lockheed, though talk of an imminent deal is too premature.

The highly classified work of BAE's two US units, one of them acquired from Lockheed and both run by US citizens, will be kept secret from the company's main British businesses under US laws, which forbid such technology transfer - a restriction that Tony Blair asked to be lifted in his Washington visit this week.

Jack Dromey, chief defence industry negotiator at the TGWU, said the plans would mean the end of a 70m project, known as Red Dragon, to build a repair facility in the centre of a new aviation park at RAF St Athans, near Cardiff.
more
http://www.guardian.co.uk/military/story/0,11816,100142...

BAE Systems enters agreement with Carlyle Group

BAE Systems North America has reached agreement with The Carlyle Group, Washington, D.C., to spin out its Imaging Sensors business located at Milpitas, Calif.
Imaging Sensors was previously part of BAE Systems Reconnaissance and Surveillance Systems of Syosset, N.Y. In the transaction, BAE Systems provided the assets of Imaging Sensors to form a new company, Fairchild Imaging, Inc. Closing of the agreement occurred April 6, 2001.
The core competencies of the new company, Fairchild Imaging, are in charged coupled device development and fabrication and electronic imaging systems. This company pioneered the development of CCD imaging technologies and has continued to innovate in a number of commercial product areas serving medical, dental and industrial surveillance markets. It currently employs 123 people.
"Fairchild Imaging is an excellent business. This transaction is part of our continuing strategic alignment to our aerospace core competencies, and provides Fairchild Imaging with great opportunity for future investment growth and success in its new commercial markets as well," said Mark Ronald, president and CEO, BAE Systems North America.
Under the terms of the transaction, BAE Systems North America retains an equity interest in Fairchild Imaging. The new company will continue to provide CCD products to the Reconnaissance and Surveillance Systems business within BAE Systems North America. Financial terms were not disclosed.
MORE
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/cgi-bin/client/modele....
UK: MoD official took BAE gifts
David Leigh and Rob Evans
Tuesday April 6, 2004
The Guardian

A slush fund run by Britain's biggest arms firm, BAE Systems, has been providing free holidays to a low-paid civil servant at the Ministry of Defence, according to allegations made to the Guardian.

The information has been passed to the Serious Fraud Office, which is planning to interview a key witness today.

...

The firm, which uses a battery of methods to persuade Britain and regimes all over the world to buy its weapons, has frequently been at the centre of corruption allegations abroad. The Guardian disclosed this year that since Labour legislated against bribery of foreign public officials, BAE has secretly shifted its files of payments to agents and foreign politicians into a vault in Geneva. BAE is also alleged to be using Swiss banks and offshore companies in the British Virgin Islands to conceal its transactions.

The Guardian also disclosed allegations that BAE has been operating a 20m slush fund to provide prostitutes, yachts and free trips for Saudis. This fund, according to the documents, also appears to have been used to finance the free holidays for Mr Porter. BAE has refused to respond to all these allegations, other than to make a generalised denial of wrongdoing.
more
http://www.guardian.co.uk/military/story/0,11816,118678...

BAE chairman named in 'slush fund' files
David Leigh and Rob Evans
Wednesday May 5, 2004
The Guardian

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Sir Dick Evans, the retiring chairman of BAE who faces his his final shareholders meeting today, has been named in allegations concerning the arms firm's 60m "slush fund", according to documents seen by the Guardian.

His name is referred to in a number of alleged phone calls, emails and meetings. The slush fund allegations are under investigation by Ministry of Defence police.

Sir Dick, who also faces questioning on arms procurement by MPs on the Commons defence committee this afternoon, remained silent yesterday in the face of the allegations about him.

Documents previously seized by MoD police detail 17m of alleged payments to a Saudi responsible for arms purchases from Britain, Prince Turki bin Nasser.
more
http://www.guardian.co.uk/armstrade/story/0,10674,12097...

DRS Technologies Receives $23.3 Million Contract to Provide High-Frequency Radio Transmitters for U.S. Government
Tuesday June 15, 9:30 am ET

PARSIPPANY, N.J.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--June 15, 2004--DRS Technologies, Inc. (NYSE: DRS - News) announced today that it has received a $23.3 million contract, including options, to provide high-frequency (HF) radio transmitters for the High-Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP), which supports a U.S. government Arctic research facility being built to study the Earth's upper atmosphere.
The $11.5 million base contract was awarded to DRS by BAE Systems PLC (LSE: BA.L - News). For this award, DRS will manufacture more than 60 Model D616G 10-Kilowatt Dual Transmitters to fulfill the transmitter requirements for the HAARP program. Work for this order will be performed by the company's DRS Broadcast Technology unit in Dallas, Texas. Product deliveries to BAE Systems' Information and Electronic Warfare Systems in Washington, D.C., are scheduled to begin in March 2005 and continue for approximately one year.

"We are pleased to continue our role as a premier supplier of transmitters for the HAARP program," said Steven T. Schorer, president of DRS's C4I Group. "This award enhances DRS's position as a leader in high-technology radio frequency solutions for secure and tactical communications systems supporting the applications of the government scientific research community."

The high-frequency or short-wave Model D616G Transmitters were designed specifically for the U.S. government HAARP research facility. Currently, the ionosphere provides long-range capabilities for commercial ship-to-shore communications, transoceanic aircraft links, and military communications and surveillance systems.

A primary goal of HAARP is to understand how variations in the sun's radiation affect the performance of radio systems and to improve military command, control, communications and surveillance systems.

DRS Broadcast Technology, formerly known as Continental Electronics, is a global leader in broadcast transmitter equipment. It is the foremost supplier of advanced radio frequency transmission technology and the world's most experienced provider of the highest power radio broadcast equipment, offering a full range of products for broadcasting, military and scientific applications.

DRS Technologies, headquartered in Parsippany, New Jersey, provides leading edge products and services to defense, government intelligence and commercial customers. Focused on defense technology, DRS develops and manufactures a broad range of mission critical systems. The company employs 5,800 people worldwide
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http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040615/155095_1

Lebanese billionaire is drawn into BAE arms deal inquiry as 'second middleman for Saudis'
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

BAE Wins FBI Computer Contract
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

MI5 quizzed over BAE 'slush fund'
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

2,000 jobs to go at BAE Systems
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

BAE rocked by fraud investigation
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 10:37 PM
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6. THANKS...SLAD! Good info there...
Always amazed at your pulling that research out! Couldn't do without it for keeping the BFEE's dealings straight! :thumbsup:
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liam_laddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 10:14 PM
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4. NPR today was reporting...
a figure of "$200 million a year for at least ten years." Probably BBC-sourced. That's a nice round
TWO BILLION for spreading about, to madrasas all over the Muslim world, much less for ladies' company
and who can even imagine what else...
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 10:24 PM
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5. I'll K&R - BIG #FIVE!!1 - this for "whatever"!!1 n/t
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 04:17 PM
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31. Hey UTUSN - BCCI lives, eh?
Anyone who thought Poppy Bush retired in 1993 is just braindead - he became stronger without the scrutiny.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 10:39 PM
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7. Oh, like that has never happened before.
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Decruiter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 10:43 PM
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8. Oh No! Not Prince Bandar, wasn't it Prince B that Bush strolled with
Edited on Wed Jun-06-07 10:44 PM by Decruiter
amongst the bluebonnets on the ranch a few years back?

on edit, "holding hands"?
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 11:06 PM
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10. Bandar funds terrorism
Bandar funds terrorism and the Bushies give it a wink and a nod:

http://mattwelch.com/NatPostSave/bandar.htm
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 08:26 PM
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35. Bushies helped them do it for decades - BCCI ring a bell?
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 11:28 PM
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11. More...oh my...
When will this hit our 'librul media'?
I am not gonna hold my breath.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/baefiles/story/0,,2097149,00....


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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 11:32 PM
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12.  a US bank in Washington
A series of payments from the British firm was allegedly channelled through a US bank in Washington to an account controlled by one of the most colourful members of the Saudi ruling clan, who spent 20 years as their ambassador in the US.


Could that possibly be Riggs?

Bank with close ties to Bush administration engulfed in scandal

The Justice Department announced on Friday that it is launching a criminal investigation into Riggs Bank. In recent months, the Washington-based bank has become engulfed in a scandal related to charges of money-laundering, corruption and terrorist financing.

Riggs, which touts itself as the most important bank in the most important city in the world, has been known for decades as the bank of the Washington elite, including politicians, foreign ambassadors and the wealthy. It has held presidential accounts stretching back to the time of the Civil War, and is a prominent fixture in the political and social establishment of the nations capital.

Or rather, it was a prominent fixture. In July, PNL Financial Services agreed to buy Riggs for $779 million. The sale will become final by early next year.

The banks prominent embassy and international operations will be shut down in an attempt to bury a scandal that has the potential of becoming much larger. That an institution like Riggs could so quickly disintegrate is an indication of the extent of the corruption that has overtaken American finance and government.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 05:40 AM
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14. Who else?
Edited on Thu Jun-07-07 05:49 AM by muriel_volestrangler
Those close to Deso say regular payments were drawn down by BAE and despatched to Prince Bandar's account at Riggs bank in Washington DC.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/baefiles/story/0,,2097149,00....


While ambassador to Washington, Prince Bandar became a close personal friend of the Bush family, as both father and son became US president.

He opened multimillion dollar accounts at Riggs Bank in Washington DC following his diplomatic appointment in 1983. Hundreds of boxes of Riggs records were seized by the FBI after the terrorist attacks of September 2001, in an inquiry into possible terrorist funding.

Prince Bandar and his family were completely exonerated on that point, but investigators discovered financial irregularities at the bank. These led to Senate hearings and Riggs' demise. The bank was discovered operating secret accounts for dictators round the world, including General Pinochet in Chile and President Obiang of Equatorial Guinea.

The US Department of Justice was recently asked to give UK investigators access to the Riggs records. But the SFO was ordered to halt its Saudi inquiry before it could happen.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/baefiles/story/0,,2097098,00....


And if you don't already have them in a list, you can add some articles about Riggs' involvement with BAE payments to Pinochet:

2004: On 14 July the US Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations releases a report into the Washington-based Riggs Bank that finds that from 1994 to 2002 the bank helped Pinochet hide US$4-8 million in multiple accounts and two offshore shell companies.

According to the report, Riggs "served as a long-standing personal banker for Mr Pinochet and deliberately assisted him in the concealment and movement of his funds while he was under investigation (in Britain) and the subject of a worldwide court order freezing his assets."

The report also cites a Riggs client profile estimating Pinochet's entire fortune at between US$50 million and US$100 million.

Five days later, on 19 July, US President George W. Bush announces that the US Government will fully investigate the bank's dealings. In Chile the State Defence Council begins an investigation into the evidence in the Riggs report and the origins of Pinochet's fortune. Chilean lawyers, meanwhile, file criminal charges against Pinochet for fraud, bribery, money laundering and other financial crimes. A judicial investigation is also opened into whether Pinochet has been involved in tax fraud and the misappropriation of funds.

At the same time, other investigations are being conducted into the business dealings of 38 of Pinochet's relatives, including his wife, his five children and various grandchildren, siblings and cousins.

http://www.moreorless.au.com/killers/pinochet.html


Detective story that linked 1m Pinochet cash to BAE

Thursday September 15, 2005

The bank records implicating BAE have come to light as the result of a remarkable detective story. It, too, originated in the growing US concern about terrorist money laundering after 9/11. In Washington, a Democratic senator, Carl Levin, and a Republican colleague, Norm Coleman, launched an inquiry into the venerable Washington Riggs Bank. This followed reports that Saudi funds passing through it might have been used for terrorism.

What they found was so shattering that it led to the demise of the bank. Riggs executives had been profiting from handling the cash of criminals and dictators around the world. President Teodoro Obiang of oil-rich Equatorial Guinea was revealed to have looted millions and put it in his family's accounts at Riggs. Gen Pinochet had more than $8m squirrelled away. As the inquiry proceeded it turned up more and more accounts, drawing in more and more hitherto respected financial institutions. One was Coutts, which had first set up accounts for Gen Pinochet in 1993 at its Miami branch. When other banks closed down accounts hiding funds for Gen Pinochet, Coutts took them over. Coutts told investigators it did not realise that the octogenarian was the figure behind two offshore shells controlled by Gen Pinochet's Chilean financial adviser, Oscar Aitkin.

Last March, the senate committee produced a supplementary report, delving into more than 100 accounts Gen Pinochet had set up using false names, the names of his wife and children, or the name of his lawyer. In Santiago, Judge Muoz seized on this evidence. Like Al Capone, the gangster who was eventually nailed by the US tax authorities, this investigation was seen as an alternative to the human rights cases brought against the former dictator which had stalled or expired as he claimed immunity or ill health. The Chilean authorities fired off legal requests to US courts to gain disclosure of the banking records. Handed over last month, these listed for the first time not only how much money Gen Pinochet had received, but where it had come from. European arms companies were high on the list. BAE was the most prominent.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/chile/story/0,13755,1570165,0...
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 09:21 AM
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17. Great connecting links, seems.......
thankyou for your diligence on this.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 09:24 AM
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18. and who was top executive at Riggs? Who else, a bush
Bush's uncle, Jonathan J. Bush
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 02:31 PM
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25. Do you have a link for that? That is a big deal. n/t
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 02:36 PM
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26. look at post 12
Edited on Thu Jun-07-07 02:38 PM by seemslikeadream
Well known fact


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28396-20...


Kathleen Day
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, May 15, 2004; Page E02


A political Web site written by a Democratic operative drew attention yesterday to the fact that President Bush's uncle, Jonathan J. Bush, is a top executive at Riggs Bank, which this week agreed to pay a record $25 million in civil fines for violations of law intended to thwart money laundering.


:hi:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:40 AM
Response to Reply #11
20. People here at DU aren't even picking up on the import of this thread, SHRED.
This is EXACTLY what BCCI was all about - and if that was going on today would DUers sit back and ignore it again or be using the internet to work to SPREAD THE TRUTH?
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:45 AM
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13. They don't call him Bandar Bush for nothing.
Why, he's like a son to Poppy and Barb, don't ya know.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 10:18 AM
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19. Bush family's ADOPTED sons make up for their dumbass real sons when
it comes to the family business of furthering global fascism.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:51 AM
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21. Not so dumbass really. George, Jeb, Marvin and Neil have all "made" billions
defrauding the American taxpayers over the years. Why, Poppy's so proud, he blubbers.

However they are foul, uncouth, brutish, stinky, creepy, rude, sociopathic and unlikeable.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:13 PM
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22. Their greed ends up shining a spotlight on BFEE fascist agenda. Poppy prefers
QUIET actions to further that agenda - as do the real DC powerstructure more accustomed to smiling faces that hide COVERT activities.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:42 PM
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23. That is very true. And you are right, if they were better at it we'd never know we were robbed
until after they were long gone, so they are dumbasses. Although dumbasses still seems too kind.
And Poppy is no doubt crying for some physiological reason.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 04:45 PM
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32. We didn't really KNOW we were being robbed in the 90s did we?
We thought Poppy Bush WAS retired and away from power. Turns out he was getting stronger than ever AWAY from congressional investigations and media scrutiny that dogged his term.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 06:22 PM
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34. We did know we were being robbed during the S&L bailout.
I am trying to remember, was that 89 or early 90s? That was a more obvious transfer of wealth. Very Bushian. In the 90s the wealth continued to be transfered, but you are right. Thousand cuts rather than a couple of big scores.

Most of the 90s most of us were being lulled into a very false sense of security indeed.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 06:32 AM
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15. Not really in hot water...
it's just a BBC investigation (although nice to see them break a high-profile investigative story for a change). It will raise awareness though, which is a good thing.

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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 02:40 PM
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27. A traitor AND sponsor of terror, to boot!!! GO FIGURE! n/t
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BornagainDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 03:38 PM
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28. Bandar smoked a cigar with Bush after 9/11. What were they
celebrating? His wife (Princess Haditha) was found to have sent checks, drawn on Bushie controlled Riggs bank, to two of the purported terrorists of 9/11.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 03:50 PM
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30. Ah yes - another Inconvenient Fact and why BCCI should NEVER have been swept under the rug
in the 90s. Imagine this world WITH the Bushes and their cronies in JAIL for treason long ago. No 9-11. No Iraq war.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 11:15 AM
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37. The Bushies even call him "Bandar Bush".
Edited on Fri Jun-08-07 11:16 AM by Beelzebud
And the day Saudi Arabia attacked us on 9/11, Bandar Bush was treated to a gormet meal in the white house.

The more I look at this bullshit, the more it's plain to see. They knew 9/11 was coming and did NOTHING to stop it.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:01 PM
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38. LIHOP, indeed.
There has been NOTHING that has come out the last 5 years that points AWAY from LIHOP.
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