Al Gore against any attempt to impeach Bush

[Herman Munster]

http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1100316

WASHINGTON: Former US vice president Al Gore, a staunch critic of George W Bush, has said he doesn't agree with calls for impeaching the president due to lack of "time" and "consensus."

Many democrats feel that Bush should be impeached for allegedly misleading the country deliberately in the lead up to the war in Iraq.

"With a year and a half to go in his term and with no consensus in the nation as a whole to support such a proposition, any realistic analysis of that as a policy option would lead one to question the allocation of time and resources," Gore said during an interview with PBS.

Pressed on whether he believed that impeachment is a good use of time, Gore replied, "I don't think it is. I don't think it would be successful."

[ingac70]

1. I agree...

He needs to be turned over to the World Court immediately on the afternoon of Jan 20, 2009.

[Socal31]

32. "world court"

is a Joke.....sets a terrible precedent....unless you are one of those "One world, one flah" people.


Anyway how funny would it be to have Bush on the stand? Hed need an earpiece to be fed-answers by the real presidents!!!!

[Jersey Devil]

2. Good God, do you realize that may make Al Gore a

realist?

[barb162]

14. Yeah, and good for him

[smalll]

28. ... Freeper! A Freeper!

How dare he imply that "we don't have the votes!" To the Hague with him, to the Hague! Enabler of Fascism! :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[Gregorian]

3. I'm finally beginning to agree.

Bush is nothing.

I am beginning to think we'd accomplish nothing by punishing a sock puppet. And we actually have far more serious things to be doing.

I feel vengeance. But I also feel a sense of urgency to turn this country around.

Bush and his crew will get what's coming. We have more important things to focus on now. It goes against my wishes, but it's the case.

[napi21]

4. Although I hate to say it, I agree.

I also question if we, as a Country, really want to be constantly be impeaching or threatening to impeach the leaders we elect. I know a lot of the calls for impeachment of Shrub, and for sure in my case, are based upon the Pubs impeaching a Dem President for less than "high crimes & misdemeanors" when we strongly believe Shrub, by deliberately ignoring the Constitution, the FISA Court, the Geneva Convention agreements, and in many cases, flat out disregard of the laws certainly DO constitute high crimes & misdemeanors! Yep! I want payback! But in all fairness, it's probably bad for the country. Most Americans recognize the mistake they made in electing this crowd, and are prepared to remedy their error in 08. I really do think our best options right now are to have Congress continue to investigate the wrongdoings, charge the perps when they can, and get our Democracy back in 08.

[nebenaube]

7. I'm sorry

but I really think you misunderstood what he was saying. All that is lacking is public consensus and I hear it everywhere I go. I also think you are a dreamer if you think he ever intends to leave.

[napi21]

9. Oh for goodness sake, you are sounding just like the Pubs who

said Clinton would never leave because he loved the job too much! Shrub will be GONE in January 2009!

[barb162]

15. That's very well explained. There's no doubt he has done

a gigantic amount of wrong, but I agree with Gore. It's just not going to be good for the country.

[onehandle]

5. Investigate Bush, Cheney, and their henchmen every moment through Jan '09.

Keep them penned and we'll expose much more of the crime.

[burrowowl]

6. If they are not impeached

once out of office I hope they will be investigated, indicted, tried and found guilty and sent to prison for life.
CRIMES AGAINST PEACE
CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY
CRIMES AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION
ETC.

[nebenaube]

8. and that's why he's not going to step down when the time comes

if we ever reach it that is...

[Phrogman]

10. If they don't start impeachment against Cheney immediately, Iran will be attacked

and I don't think America will like what happens after that.

[G_j]

40. exactly, a year and a half is a lot of time for war criminals to

commit more crimes.

[spag68]

11. Impeaching them

would do nothing to affect the criminals who are running them like the puppets they are. However if there was a way to get rid of them sooner, I would listen.

[nebenaube]

38. FDR knew that too...

and look where we are now.

[OneBlueSky]

12. I love Al Gore, and tremendously admire his work on behalf of the planet . . . however . ..

he's dead wrong on this one . . . with the recent "I'm the dictator" proclamation by Bush, coupled with the record of 9/11, the damage that BushCo can (and likely will) do in their remaining months is almost too disastrous to comprehend . . . and that's not to mention their determination to attack Iran come hell or high water . . .

at least impeachment might slow their advance toward a fascist dictatorship and the beginnings of World War III . . .

[wtmusic]

17. I don't get the "bad for the country" line of thinking

Yes, it would be hard for the country--but ultimately necessary.

Now is the time to re-establish the idea that everyone is equal under the eyes of the law, and bring a real criminal to justice. Timing should have nothing to do with it.

And leaving office should not get him off the hook either.

[Labors of Hercules]

41. "timing should have nothing to do with it".

True, it shouldn't, but unfortunately timing has everything to do with it: Congress can't focus oversight where it needs to be if Impeachment proceedings are initiated. The problem with impeachment is that it literally holds Congress hostage as it requires the full resources of both Houses AND the Supreme Court (Chief Justice).

When you've got an administration that functions the way this one does, there's no telling what horrors these assholes could unleash while our attention is focused on impeachment. Dubya's already a talking smokescreen dancing around to get our attention with all his bullshit "dictater-tot speak". He knows he doesn't know shit about what's really going on. He's a glorified errand boy who gets to throw his hat in the ring from time-to-time to fuck things up even more than the people manning the "GOP twenty-headed monster" have done.

It's the heart of the monster that has to be destroyed. Kill the heads and they'll just grow back.

GOP = The ultimate terrorist cell.

[Kazak]

13. It'll be a shame if...

history doesn't record at least an attempt to try. However, I love Gore and hope to high hell he intends to run...

[Bake]

16. Particularly wtih the latest immigration bill

Bush has lost almost all support of Pukes in Congrss (especially those who face the electorate next year!). He can't start another war. He's a lame duck.

Gore is right, once again.

God, I hope he runs.

Bake

[EFerrari]

18. It took them four months to impeach Clinton.. Sorry, Mr. President.

This isn't about political success. This is about accountability.

(Oh, and RUN, AL, RUN!)

[wtmusic]

19. "Accountability"...I knew there was a word that brought it home

:thumbsup:

Is this the same man I saw spewing fire and brimstone in his 2004 speech to the NY Press Club?

I hope so.

[EFerrari]

20. I believe he is that man. But he is also the politician that has to court

the Democratic Party. That's some negotiation.

I'm glad I went into teaching because that whole politicking thing is really hard.

[wtmusic]

22. I wish I could get over this idea

there is someone, somewhere, who by sheer logic, charisma, smarts, and eloquence could not only pursue what is right and good, but get those who disagree with him/her on board.

*searches for meds*

[EFerrari]

24. (If you find them, share.)

:)

[Cant trust em]

21. It took 12 posts to get some disagreement on this

Wow. I figured that when I clicked on this post that I'd see people coming out of the woodwork to call Al Gore a right wing sympathizer for not calling for impeachment. I had to scroll down a good ways to find someone who is in favor of impeachment. It's sad, but I think it's true, that most people have gotten over how we've gotten into this war. My sense is that average Joe voter gives GWB the benefit of the doubt on his "bad intelligence".

[EFerrari]

23. Most people have all they can do to try to keep their lives together.

No surprise there.

We need leadership and we may need to be that leadership.

[Yukari Yakumo]

30. Yes, but...

How many months, years were spent investigating?

[Guaranteed]

25. Yup.

The guy is dead-on with regard to just about everything.

[Rageneau]

26. If Bush isn't impeached, he will seize dictatorial power!

Smirk just signed a Presidential Finding that gives him absolute power over all aspects of government whenever he decides to enforce it. There can only be one reason a President would want such power -- to stay in power forever. Bush is an evil man, a truly evil man, who will ride roughshod over every right Americans ever thought they had. The Democrats (including Gore) are too wimpy to hold him accountable through impeachment. The consequence of that will be that he will soon make himself unimpeachable. And once that happens, unless the Republicans stand up to him, the country is screwed, because we all know that the Democrats (including Gore) will let Bush get away with anything.

[Yukari Yakumo]

31. Counterpoint

What will stop him from doing that anyway even if we start impeachment proceedings?

[Warren DeMontague]

34. Uh, dude, even if he's impeached, the Senate won't remove him from office.

We don't have anywhere near the numbers in the Senate to do that.

So if impeachment -right now, as things stand today- is about "holding him accountable"- it would be a statement, and nothing more- with NO real world implications. Zero. If that's the only thing keeping him from seizing dictatorial power, well, I guess nothing is keeping him from seizing dictatorial power.

[calteacherguy]

27. Agreed. nt

[earth mom]

29. Seems like some people around here want to gleefully crow about this one...

but even though I wholeheartedly believe in Impeachment of * & Co, I also believe in Gore.


I think Gore is playing a bit of politics for several reasons:

First, he doesn't want to alienate Congress, many of whom are friends no doubt.

Second, he doesn't want evil nasty media creatures like Limbaugh & O'Lielly all over his a$$ before he even announces he is running for office.

Third, I believe he is trying to wake this country up and get people to participate and make a difference in a positive way and that's why he's reluctant to get down and dirty, but instead wants to show a higher, more noble way of going about it all.


While I don't blame Gore for his politics playing, I don't want to see him fall into the trap of doing nothing but playing politics and not accomplishing a damn thing as Congress has done the past 6 months.

If that happens, Bye Bye Gore 2008 avatar, Bye Bye Gore support. Simple as that.

[LynnTheDem]

33. Fact is, impeaching bush would go a very long way to restoring the world's

good opinion of us. Although it may be too late for that, regardless.

[Skidmore]

35. Al Gore is wrong. Pelosi is wrong. Reid is wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

NOT impeaching the bastard is setting a precedent for allowing a president to get by with any criminal act against the Constitution and the people of the U.S. and the world without consequence. They are utterly and completely wrong. What this man and his cronies have done is worse than Watergate by far.

Impeach him and Cheney.

[wtmusic]

39. Impeachment has gotten a bum rap

It is a dignified and moral undertaking.

It was Republicans who dragged it into the gutter. All we would have to do is avoid making the same mistake.

[Jonathan50]

36. Chemotherapy is bad for you..

Chemo is a poison, the only reason people do chemo is because the doctors think it may kill the cancer before it kills the patient.

Impeachment is like chemo for the cancer eating away at America.

Yes, it's bad for America.

But the cancer is worse.

We let Nixon and then Reagan get away without punishment.

Look where that got us..

[Raksha]

37. He has to say that. To come out in favor of impeachment

would leave him open to "Sore Loserman" taunts all over again because the 2000 election was stolen from him. But his saying it, more than anything else, makes me think he is seriously considering running in 2008. I don't think he really cares what they say about him, but he's not about to provide them with an easy target.

Anyone who has read The Assault on Reason KNOWS exactly what he thinks of the Bush administration. There can't be anyone on earth who has more bitter regrets over the coup of 2000 than Al Gore, not only (or mainly) for his own sake, but because of what has become of the nation formerly known as the United States of America.