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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 07:23 PM
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I don't understand (some) of the rules at DU.
(not that there's anything wrong with that.)

I constantly see threads being moved from General Discussion to DU Lounge and I still don't
(after all these years) understand why.

Like awhile ago, a thread about Young Boys having very long hair was posted in GD.
It seems like that's where it should go???...yet was moved to the Lounge.

On some days though, I see posts like "Who's your favorite Drummer"...in GD... and it
DOESN'T get moved.

I'm not being a discontent...just confused.

and No ...I'm certainly not "Cutting" on the Mods...I mean, if I had any Guts and wasn't so damn lazy, I'd be one. :)
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 07:24 PM
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1. Mods have carte blanche to do pretty much anything they want.
It's klunky but it mostly works. :D
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 07:27 PM
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3. Really?...Ah....you know that cute blond in GD...you think there's any chance...?
Edited on Wed May-30-07 07:42 PM by BlueJazz
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 08:01 PM
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15. sorry, no chance...
he's taken.

:evilgrin:
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 07:29 PM
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4. Well....no.
Trust me on this. :-)
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 07:59 PM
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14. It doesn't mostly work?
??
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 08:03 PM
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18. No...the "mods have carte blanche" thing.
They don't go around doing things just by whim.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 08:13 PM
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23. Not usually, but sometimes I wonder. There -have- been a few trolls who made
mod status in the past. You did know that, right?
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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 07:36 PM
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6. :rofl: n/t
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 07:25 PM
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2. Locking.
j/k :P
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 07:31 PM
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5. Speaking only for myself, we're not on 24/7. And, at times, there are more pressing concerns
than whether a thread is appropriate in General Discussion or the Lounge. It's just the way it is. I know we all appreciate members' support and understanding that we work to maintain a place for discussion - whatever the topic - within our guidelines.

Thanks.
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 07:39 PM
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8. Oh...we do appreciate the Mods and all the (Free) work and time they....
..Donate.

Having said that...Ah...there's this cute blond in GD..and :spank:
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 07:37 PM
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7. I mentioned that someone with five kids is a breeder. (Scalia's daughter)
Poof. Gone.

And yet it's one of the single most important topics to be discussed. It's taboo.

We can't even get a population forum here. I've tried.

Mark my word, in 20 years there will be nothing but discussion about population. But too late.

People flag posts. That's what happens. For whatever reasons.

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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 07:47 PM
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12. It might have been the term 'breeder' that done your post in.
It's a pretty derogatory term. (I'm only guessing here since I'm not a mod & didn't see the post.)
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 08:02 PM
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16. That would be my guess also
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 07:41 PM
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9. Sometimes I think that some threads that aren't necessarily purely lounge material gets moved there
after all this is General discussion. Does it only have to be about weighty issues? or can you have a less lofty issue discussed at times. And frankly, sometimes a poster wants to get (and I don't mean this sarcastically or as an insult) more considered and measured responses than you sometimes get in the lounge which is basically where people like to go and cool off and have a drink and tell a few stories and enjoy a joke or two.
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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 07:45 PM
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11. But what about the members who do want
GD to be about weighty issues only? Don't they have a say too? DU can't please all the members, all the time.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 07:50 PM
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13. well obviously there has to be some consideration for all sides
because at times the lounge is too caught up in its own kind of humor that less weighty but still interesting posts get lost among many fun but frivolous posts which people enjoy when they do go to the lounge.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 08:03 PM
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19. Stridently held opinion based on questionable pseudo-science but I'm right
sort of like that? (that was an accident)
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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 07:43 PM
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10. First, if no one alerts there's a chance a mod won't see it.
Second, whether something belongs in GD or the lounge or one of the other forums can be a very gray area. Contrary to popular belief, mods don't act unilaterally & have to get consensus. And that can be a gray area too: How many is consensus? And believe me, when I modded & we screwed up we could get it from all sides.

Where to post various discussion topics.

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 08:03 PM
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17. Case in point
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x6558226

I have no idea why this was moved after 100 replies, but it certainly stopped the conversation. I am not calling any mods out on this, I just don't understand the rationale either.
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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 08:06 PM
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20. Here you go:
Edited on Wed May-30-07 08:11 PM by wakemeupwhenitsover
Questions about Democratic Underground policies should be emailed to the administrators. Discussion topics pertaining to specific enforcement actions by the moderators are categorically forbidden. Discussion topics relating to Democratic Underground policies, procedures, enforcement, etc., are sometimes permitted if they are respectful and not disruptive to the administration of the website. We reserve the right to lock or delete any such topics for any reason.

If you have a problem with the move then email the admins. They can & do override decisions.

Modding is not an exact science. There are lots of gray areas.

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 08:10 PM
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21. Well, I don't really need a lecture.
Edited on Wed May-30-07 08:10 PM by Bluebear
I am familiar with the administrators and how to contact the. I am not arguing a damn thing, just trying to add to the conversation wondering why that particular conversation would be considered "lounge" after 100 posts.

I don't need the rules in bold, thanks!
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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 08:12 PM
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22. My sincerest apologies. I took out the bold.
I only bolded it to seperate it from the rest of my post since I didn't want to look up the div=class=excerpt thingy again.

My point (so badly made) was that if you ever disagree with a move you can ask to have it overridden.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 08:13 PM
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24. Wake . . .
I know, I've been here awhile :)

The OP said they don't understand the rules sometime, I am just agreeing :)
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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 08:19 PM
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25. And I guess that I'm saying that there are some really
gray areas. And (without going into detail) a lot of it depends on how many mods are on & how fast consensus it reached.



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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 05:35 PM
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26. I think GD is for current affairs and issues that are not political. One could
argue that long hair discussion was a current issue I guess. But it was more of an 'issue of the day' back in the late 1960s. See the difference.

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