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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 07:12 PM
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Now we're "boutique states" in the west???
Okay, now she has just got on my last nerve. What can we do to win PA? To hell with DU, every free moment we need to be doing something that directly affects Pennsylvania. Ideas??

"One Clinton aide yesterday derided Mr Obamas victories in "boutique" caucus states rather than the hardscrabble terrain of the rustbelt, saying: "Obama has won the small caucus states with the latte-sipping crowd. They dont need a president, they need a feeling."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:21 PM
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1. gee I never thought Westerners were latte-sipping
That's a real stretch for Wyoming. I mean, really! Most of us picture those people out on the range riding horses and boiling their coffee grounds in a pot over a fire! Yes I know, that's the OLD West, but still...

I really hope the Obama camp can win PA. That would finish off the farce that is the Clinton campaign for once and for all.
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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:29 PM
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2. i just read article that obama is going to travel
to europe, asia & isreal to get more experience in. that is what he had planned to do before this last weekend and they say he may still go because he needs the experience for the fall against mccain.

and to do so he may give up PA...

he is in a very tight place right now with no good answers.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:30 PM
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3. Oh we still do
Cowboy Coffee. A couple quarts of water, handful of coffee grounds. When it gets boiling good and smells like coffee, take it off the heat and shock it with a bit of cold water to settle the grounds to the bottom of the pot.

And you know just what I'd like to do with it after I brew it too.

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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:52 PM
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4. ha--
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 08:55 PM by ginnyinWI
I can guess. :rofl:

Oh and one more thing: if they think "latte-sipping" is going to have any effect on Oregon and Washington--they've got another wake-up call. I've visited you guys there quite a bit since my son moved to Portland and my daughter lived for a while in Seattle--and I must say that in both states, Coffee is King! (especially Peet's and Stumptown-yum!)
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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:39 AM
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10. My husband LIKES Cowboy Coffee! He grew up in Nevada. n/t
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:27 AM
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9. There was a funny comment
in some thread yesterday, about all those latte sipping black cowboys in WY.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:04 PM
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5. Phone banking and letters to the editors of PA newspapers.
I'm in IL and won't be able to help out on the ground in PA, so I will phone bank and write letters from home. I suggest we all write LTTEs. Pick a topic, keep it reasonably short, and send it to the papers in PA. Pick a new topic and repeat. We've got six weeks to educate PA voters on why they should choose Obama over Hillary. I don't have time now (probably not tomorrow either), but if others are interested in doing this, I'll gather email addys for PA newspapers early next week and post them here. :hi:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:15 PM
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6. I will definitely do this
Should we split the state up? I'll get the emails starting from the eastern border??
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:34 PM
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7. Splitting works for me. Thanks for offering.
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 09:36 PM by No Surrender
The earliest I'll be able to gather addresses is probably Monday or Tuesday.

on edit - Here's the Google link for PA newspapers:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c2coff=1&safe=active...
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:05 AM
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8. Okay
I'll start gathering it up. Thanks!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 04:29 PM
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14. Here's a bunch
We all did this in 2004, and they carried it to 2006. Is most of the media here, or are there regions missing?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:25 PM
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15. I'd forgotten all about that, sandnsea!
:bounce:

Your memory is much better than mine. ;-)

I did a bit of digging this morning and found the email for the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette: letters@post-gazette.com and for The Herald in Sharon: edletters@sharonherald.com .

I don't know how complete the Research Forum list you linked to is, but it's a good start. :-)
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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:40 AM
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11. Sure, I can help. How about content suggestions as well? n/t
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:19 PM
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12. Seems there is so much we could use, it's hard to know where to start.
I just came across this thread in GDP discussing what Obama's PA strategy should be, so maybe this could be used as a starting point.

Maybe those interested could toss some ideas out for discussion.

I absolutely think Hillary needs to be called on some of her bs - Obama's ready to be my veep, even though he's not ready to be prez, how Hillary's blessing of a McCain presidency over an Obama presidency would affect the USSC, the economy, and Hillary helping McCain frame the GE debate on his perceived strong point ( :wtf:). Then there's her padded resume.

I think we also need to focus on Obama's accomplishments, his desire for an open government, and restoring our image abroad. I have lots of threads bookmarked that cover some of this, but I don't have time now to link them here.

Another interesting topic is looking at the campaigns they've run as an example of the type of leadership they'd bring to the OO. Hillary claims to be ready on day one, yet she was unprepared for the primary season to continue beyond ST. Obama has been ready to compete in every state from day one.

Thanks for agreeing to help with this, Kukesa! :hi:
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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:51 PM
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13. Phone calling in Ohio didn't go too well, IMHO.
Voters were getting so many robo calls that when we tried to enter into a "live" discussion, they hung up on us.

Dilemma.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:29 PM
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16. Hmmmm, that could be a problem.
Did you talk to anyone from the Obama campaign? If so, how did they respond? The last thing we need is turning people off by bugging them.

Our phone banking experience in OH was positive, but it also took place the weekend of the 2-22 - 2-24. Maybe people were sick of the phone ringing by the time election day neared.
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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 08:53 PM
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17. I was Chair of Montgomery Co. "Ohio Women for Kerry"
phone banking back in 2004, and to tell you the truth, it was nothing like the pre-primary phone calls here in Ohio. We received more robo calls this time that we did previous to the 2004 election. I'd venture to guess that Hillary "phoned" more than six time; it became a joke at our house.

No, I didn't speak to anyone from the Obama campaign. I, unofficially, began to use my old list from 2004 (suggested after a group of us from the 2004 campaign met) and became discouraged very quickly.

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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:27 PM
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18. I've been thinking . . .
I (painfully) recall sending a letter to Arlen Spector and receiving a response from his office which more-or-less stated: thanks but since you're not a constituent, you don't matter.

My email address identifies me as a resident of Ohio and so would my postmark.

Would our efforts be better served by posting our ideas in the Pennsylvania forum and letting them take it from there?
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 12:14 AM
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19. My suggestion was to send letters to PA newspapers, not elected
representatives. Out-of-state letters get printed in newspapers all across the country, so I don't see why the same wouldn't be true for PA. Some letters don't make it to the print edition, but get posted online. Even if they make neither, someone reads the letter before deciding whether to publish or pitch it, so at least the point being made in the letter is read by another person.

I think it's worth it to get something going. We can always forget the idea if we don't seem to be getting anywhere. If you don't think it will work though, please don't feel obligated to participate. :-)

I like your idea of approaching the PA forum - they could probably provide insight on issues particular to PA that people from out-of-state might not be aware of.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:11 PM
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20. This foreign policy info
I think some focused letters on this would be really effective, the Olbermann clip has some good verbage as well.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:59 PM
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21. slinkerwink found a gem today that will make a great LTTE.
Seems Little Miss "Meet Me In Ohio, Barack Obama" wasn't so truthful about NAFTA after all. :mad:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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