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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 04:32 PM
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Tax Debate Timeline - How the Right wouldn't budge, and the Left Blamed one man!
There has been a Progressive Democratic revolt against the Tax compromise that President Obama Proposed on December 6, 2010.

Many Congressional Democrats have maintained that the President didn't bother to discuss any of this with them, and that they were blindsided. They are angry, as are some of their Liberal Democratic Constituents, and in a Democratic Caucus, the Democrats voted down the compromised offered, and offered a few loud choice words to describe the President instead.

The congressional Democrats, operating from a position of disgust are mad as hell, and they have announced loudly on any television screen available, that they aren't going to take it anymore! They are calling the Compromise, a deal done with the Devil behind closed doors without true fighting type negotiation while giving away the store as the first bargaining position. They wanted Barack Obama to "Fight" to get rid of those odious tax cuts for the wealthy; regardless that these tax cuts were something that all Republicans, and some Democrats weren't budging on, period.

File and rank Democratic activists are even more red hot angry. Many have taken to calling the President a weak, arrogant, non skilled negotiating Republican-lite puppet for the GOP, needs-to be primaried, son of an pompous gun (actually worse names than that, but you get my drift)! Jokes depicting the President as a weak negotiator have been depicted everywhere in cartoons and late night entertainment.

As time continues to run out for anything to be done, some Democrats are in favor of allowing for the entire Bush Tax Cut lesgislation to expire. They indeed believe that whatever the 98% of working Americans would gain from extending Middle Class tax cuts and extending unemployment benefits just isn't worth it. They believe that compromise is not what one does when dealing with unreasonable assholes, aka, Republicans and conservative Democrats. And that sometimes just letting folks be hurt is the only way that same folks will realize what assholes those Republicans are.

So I decided to do some research into the timeline of the tax cut debate (below), in order to determine just what angry Democrats were going to do beyond allowing 98% of working Americans to suffer financially during a time of grave economy hardship in order to get the point accross that Republicans are bad for one's financial health (I'm not sure how that message would get accross to the general public, considering that the media works for the GOP, not for the Democrats, but oh, well!).

Of course, whatever it is that Democrats might decide to propose whenever they figure it out, would have to pass with enough votes in both houses of congress, cause congress ain't going away, and in fact, even more GOP assholes are scheduled to show up in January!

As of 1/1/2010 (in 22 days), Americans will start to wake up to what their tax bill is likely to look like without anything being done, and I just want to say, I don't want to be around, when that shit hits the election 2012 fan!
(here's some basic data on that: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Considering that as soon as the tax cuts for everyone expires, Pres. Obama can be said to have broken many promises of the "read my lips" kind, I think that we can understand that we are setting ourselves up for a possible Republican sweep in 2012 of all houses, and that we might as well talk a lot now, because come the day after the election, you can be certain that we could very well see the end of just about anything and everything that some of us hold dear. If You've still got a line in a sand, well, good luck with that then!





SO HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED -


April 28, 2010 - Last week the Senate Budget Committee passed a fiscal 2011 budget resolution that includes an increase in the top tax rate on dividends to 39.6% from the current 15%a 164% increase. This blows past the 20% rate that President Obama proposed in his 2011 budget and which his economic advisers promised on these.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703709804...


Jul 14, 2010- Senate Debate on Extending 2001/2003 Tax Cuts
The Senate Finance Committee conducted a hearing on July 14, 2010 to discuss the potential extension of tax cuts. In the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 (EGTRRA) and the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003 (JGTRRA), there were tax reductions for nearly all Americans. The tax reductions continue through 2010, but are set to be repealed on January 1, 2011.

The White House has proposed to extend these tax cuts for single persons with incomes under $200,000 ($250,000 for couples), but to increase the capital gain rate and top income tax brackets. Under the White House plan, the capital gain rate will increase from 15% to 20%, the 33% bracket increases to 36% and the 35% tax bracket is raised to 39.6%.

Senate Finance Chair Max Baucus (D-MT) opened the hearing by stating, "Americans are struggling to make ends meet, and we need to do all we can to put more money back in the hands of workers, middle-class families and small businesses so our economy can grow. I support extending the middle-class tax cuts permanently, as soon as possible, so working families can keep more of their hard-earned money."

Sen. Baucus and the White House are both advocating a permanent extension of the tax cuts for low and middle-income taxpayers, with an increase in taxes for those in the upper brackets.
http://www.lssmngift.org/washington.jsp?WebID=GL2005-04...



Jul 21, 2010 - Top Rates Will Increase Speaker Pelosi
Members of both Parties joined the debate this week on income taxes. Without action by Congress, all of the tax reductions in the 2001/2003 tax acts will be phased out on January 1, 2011.

The White House has steadfastly maintained that the reductions for lower and middle-income brackets should be retained, while the reductions for the top brackets must be phased out.

Under the White House proposal, individuals with incomes over $200,000 ($250,000 for married couples) would pay higher taxes. The top two brackets will increase to 36% and 39.6%. In addition, the White House proposes that the capital gains tax rate returns to 20%.

Senator Ben Nelson (D-NE) has expressed concern about the increase in taxes on upper income individuals.
http://www.fwbgifts.org/washington.jsp?WebID=GL2003-008...



July 26, 2010 - Geithner and Reid Support Top Tax Rate Increases
On a national media program on July 25, 2010, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner emphasized that the Obama administration plans to increase the tax rates for the top two brackets.

When asked whether the 2001/2003 tax reductions should be extended for all brackets, Secretary Geithner stated, "I don't believe they should and I don't believe they will."

In the view of Secretary Geithner, the increase of the top two rates to 36% and 39.6% affects only "2% to 3% of Americans, the highest-earning Americans in the country." He suggested that the increased rates on top earners will not have a "negative effect on growth."
http://www.scfgifts.org/washington.jsp?WebID=GL2007-103...



August 3, 2010 -
House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD) stated on August 3rd that he hopes the House will act to extend the 2001/2003 tax cuts before adjourning on October 8, 2010. House Democrats generally agree with the White House proposal that tax cuts should be extended for individuals making less than $200,000 ($250,000 for married couples).

Speaking at a Washington conference this week, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner also emphasized the importance of extending the middle-class tax cuts and raising taxes for the top two brackets.

When asked whether the tax system should be modified this year,Sen. Conrad noted, "It is a losing strategy to try to rejigger the current tax code." He prefers to wait for a November proposal from the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform.
http://unmgift.org/?pageID=38&docID=588



August 6, 2010 - Do Democrats have a plan to extend Bush tax cuts?
Actually, President Obama has proposed formal plans to leave tax rates in place for the middle class while raising taxes on the wealthy -- for example, on pages 39 and 164 of his 2011 budget. We also re-capped Obama's history on tax increases.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2010/au... /



August 18th, 2010 - Obama says Republicans oppose strengthening the child care tax credit
Democrats want to make it easier for working parents to pay for child care, but congressional Republicans don't think that's a good idea, President Barack Obama told his audience in Columbus, Ohio, on Aug. 18, 2010.

Asked whether the government has done anything to reduce child care costs, Obama said, "We have a child care credit in place. Wed like to make it stronger. This is one of those back-and-forths weve been having with the Republicans, because we actually think it is a good idea and they dont. But I think that giving families support who have to work each and every day is absolutely critical."

Are Republican lawmakers really opposed to increasing the child care credit? We decided to look into it.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010... -/





August 26, 2010 - Is Obama Planning a Bush Tax Cut October Surprise?
There is a feeling in Washingtonperhaps even a fearthat President Barack Obama will, as an "October Surprise," call for legislation extending most but not all of the Bush tax cuts.

With the Republicans still hashing out their agenda for the fall, the thinking goes, a push to keep taxes from going up on all but the so-called "wealthiest Americans" will throw the GOP for a loop. A fall campaign based on class warfare, some Democrats believe, should bring out enough Obama voters to blunt the impact of the tide expected to swamp the majority in the upcoming congressional elections.
http://politics.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/201...




September 23, 2010 - Democrats delay vote on extending Bush tax cuts
Senate Democratic leaders decided Thursday to delay a vote on preserving soon-to-expire middle class tax cuts until after congressional elections in November.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/news/ap/politics/2010/...




September 30, 2010 - Congress adjourns, but spending bills and Bush tax cuts still loom
Lawmakers head home to face voters in the midterm elections, putting off big decisions such as on extending the Bush tax cuts.

But what stands out as Congress breaks for the next six weeks is whats left undone. That includes all spending bills for the fiscal year beginning Oct. 1 and decisions on extending the so-called Bush tax cuts, now set to expire on Dec. 31.

Thirty-nine Democrats in the House and two in the Senate joined Republicans Wednesday in opposing motions to adjourn, citing the need to renew the tax cuts to assure business and the public that they will not incur big tax increases next year. In a floor speech, Republican leader John Boehner said that those members voting yes on the adjournment resolution were "putting their election above the needs of your constituents."

The list of Democrats opposing the adjournment includes many of the most vulnerable members heading into midterm elections, especially freshmen in seats formerly held by Republicans. In the end, Democrats adjourned the House with just one vote to spare, 210 to 209.

The tough adjournment vote was only the latest indicator of deepening divisions in Democratic ranks on tax and spending issues heading into midterm elections. This week 47 Democrats, led by Rep. John Adler (D) of New Jersey, called on Speaker Nancy Pelosi to extend the expiring 2003 Bush tax cuts on dividends and capital gains. Earlier this month, 31 Democrats called on Ms. Pelosi to extend the 2001 tax cuts for all income brackets, not just individuals earning less than $200,000 and families earning less than $250,000 a year. President Obama and House Democratic leadership have proposed those limits on a tax-cut extension.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2010/0930/Congres...





October 4, 2010 - Pelosi Cuts Off Bush Tax Cuts Debate Wounding Obama and the Democratic Party
At 1:04 a.m. the morning of September 30, the Democratic Party, the Obama Presidency and Liberal America were given the last rites. Nancy Pelosi also all but insured she will be a lame duck speaker even if the Democrats retain control of the House.

The occasion was a seemingly routine vote on whether to adjourn the House until after the November elections, but the real issue behind this vote was whether to extend the Bush tax cuts for the rich. Pelosi cast the rare deciding vote from the speakers chair resulting in a 210-209 squeaker. Rather than risk a vote on the tax cuts, Pelosi decided to punt.

Pelosis single vote is testimony to her waffling on this issue, to the inability of the White House to rally its supporters and to the inability of the Democratic Party to stand for principles. The postponed vote and the indecision put the Democrats in a difficult position since without a vote the well-oiled GOP propaganda machine will ramp up its fear tactics, shouting that the postponement means the Democrats are going to raise everyones taxes, not just those of rich people.

Had Pelosi voted to continue the session it could have turned this campaign into a genuine contest of ideas. The argument that the recess was needed in order to allow vulnerable Democrats to campaign holds little validity since Pelosi controls the gavel and the Democrats the agenda. With any thought, the Democrats could have produced a carefully-coordinated campaign that turned up the heat on the Republicans, while still allowing their own candidates time to campaign.
http://thestrangedeathofliberalamerica.com/pelosis-vote...




November 05, 2010 - Obama Wants Congress to Halt AMT Tax Hike on Middle Class by Dec. 31
President Barack Obama believes that Congress must act before the end of the year to stop a tax hike that would disproportionately hit middle-class earners, said White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs.

Among those subject to this already-in-place tax increase are some families making less than $50,000 per year, and virtually all married couples earning between $100,000 and $500,000 a year, according to the CBO. (See earlier story.)

Congress could stop the tax hike by enacting legislation that temporarily increases the amount of income exempt from the Alternative Minimum Tax. The temporary reprieve passed by Congress for each of the past nine years expired on Dec. 31, 2009 and, so far, Congress has not extended the AMT "fix, or patch, for 2010.

What the president believes is, we have both houses coming back and that this is an issue that must and has to be dealt with in that session, Gibbs said.

According to the CBO, among the households that will be hit with the AMT this year under current law include the following: 3 percent are households making less than $50,000 a year; 35 percent are household making between $50,000 and $100,000 per years; 47 percent are households making between $100,000 and $200,000 per year; and 14 percent are households making between $200,000 and $500,000 per year.

Because of the particular tax preferences and exemptions disallowed under the AMT, that tax structure is more likely to affect married couples, large families, and taxpayers in states with high state and local taxes, according to the CBO.
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-wants-congres...


November 28, 2010 - Taxes, budget and jobless benefits - Congress at the wire
The lame-duck Congress returns on Monday to a daunting agenda of economic issues.
And lawmakers will try to accomplish in a few weeks what has eluded them all year.

Some deadlines, such as extending unemployment insurance and passing a federal budget, will hit this week. On other matters, such as the Bush tax cuts, lawmakers have until year's end.

Bush tax cuts: On Tuesday, President Obama will meet with congressional leaders on both sides of the aisle to tackle the extension of the Bush tax cuts.

Just about the only thing both parties agree on is preserving the tax cuts for lower- and middle-income families, which is estimated to cost $3 trillion over a decade. At issue is extending them permanently for the high-income earners, which adds $700 billion to the tab.

President Obama and many Democrats have said they want the tax cuts to expire on family income above $250,000. But the GOP contends that raising taxes now on anyone will imperil the still-fragile economy.

Unemployment benefits: It looks increasingly likely that hundreds of thousands of people will start running out of extended unemployment benefits this week.

Lawmakers are expected to let the Nov. 30 deadline to file for federal unemployment insurance pass without extending it. But that doesn't mean it's the end of the road for federal benefits, which last 73 weeks. Congress may take up the measure during December, either as stand-alone legislation or as part of a bigger bill.
http://money.cnn.com/2010/11/28/news/economy/week_ahead...



November 29, 2010 - Democrats Gird for Tax-Relief Battle
With the lame-duck Congress reconvening Monday, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D., Calif.) may hold a vote mid-week on legislation that would extend the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts only for families with income less than $250,000, while allowing the upper brackets to expire.

But Senate Democrats are still divided over their party's endgame strategy. Some Democrats are ready to accept a temporary extension of all tax cuts. But there is also growing interest among other Democrats in a compromise that would keep them in place only for families with income up to $1 million. Administration officials, for their part, have opposed making upper-income tax cuts permanent, but are widely viewed as being willing to accept an extension of a year or two. Republicans are unified in opposition to allowing the Bush-era tax cuts to lapse for any income group.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703785704...


12/01/10 - On November 30, President Obama met with House and Senate Leaders at the White House
to discuss how to proceed with the Bush-era tax cuts that will sunset at the end of this year if Congress doesn't act.

At a press conference following the meeting, the President said that House and Senate leaders agreed that it was necessary for both parties to reach an agreement on how to move forward on the Bush-era tax cuts before they expire. However, the only "progress" on the issue was the designation of a working group to deal with how to proceed.
http://ria.thomsonreuters.com/taxwatch/default.asp


12/1/10 Bipartisan working group appointed on Bush-era tax cuts; Republicans threaten to hold up other legislation.
A "bipartisan" working group has been appointed to grapple with the Bush-era tax cuts that will sunset at the end of this year unless Congress acts. That was followed by an announcement from Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) that Republicans would thwart all other legislation until Congress revives the tax cuts for everyone.
http://ria.thomsonreuters.com/taxwatch/default.asp


12/2/10 House passes the "Middle Class Tax Relief Act."
On December 2, the House by a vote of 234-188 approved H.R. 4853, the "Middle Class Tax Relief Act of 2010," as amended.
http://ria.thomsonreuters.com/taxwatch/default.asp


12/3/10 Senate to consider various middle-class tax relief proposals.
On Dec. 2, Senate Finance Committee Chair Max Baucus (D-MT) introduced legislation (Amdt. 4727) that would permanently cut middle-class tax rates to 10%, 15%, 25%, 28% and 33% for individuals making up to $200,000 and families making up to $250,000. It would also make permanent the 15% rate for capital gains for individuals making up to $200,000 and families making up to $250,000 and permanently extend the marriage penalty relief. The bill would permanently extend the 45% estate tax rate, with an exemption for estates under $3.5 million, indexed for information. In addition, the bill would permanently extend the child tax credit and the making work pay credit.

Following a caucus meeting of Senate Democrats on Dec. 2, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) announced that the Senate would vote on Saturday, Dec. 4, on two Democratic proposals to provide middle-class tax relief: (1) Baucus's amendment (Amdt. 4727), which includes AMT relief and an unemployment insurance extension; and (2) Senator Charles Schumer's (D-NY) amendment (Amdt. 4728), which includes a tax cut extension for those making up to $1 million, plus several additional items included in the Baucus amendment. However, it is unlikely that either amendment will get the 60 votes necessary for Senate passage, considering that Senate Republicans have said they would not support a bill that did not extend all of the Bush-era tax cuts, see Article #1860.
http://ria.thomsonreuters.com/taxwatch/default.asp



12/6/10 Senate fails to pass "middle class relief;" stage set for a compromise, possibly this week.
During a rare Saturday session on Dec. 4, the Senate failed to pass two Democratic initiatives to make permanentfor the middle-class only the Bush-era tax cuts contained in the 2001 EGTRRA and 2003 JGTRRA. The stage is set, however, for a compromise that will most likely extend the Bush-era tax cuts "temporarily" for everyone.

An amendment offered by Senate Finance Committee Chair Max Baucus (D-MT) to extend the Bush-era tax cuts for everyone except those with incomes above $250,000 (joint filers) or $200,000 (single filers) was defeated by a vote of 53-36. Also defeated by a vote of 53-37 was an amendment offered by Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) to extend the Bush-era tax cuts for everyone except those with incomes above $1 million. Both amendments included a number of other tax provisions.

On Sunday, Dec. 5, Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-IL) said that he expects tax negotiators will reach an agreement on a bill that will provide a temporary extension of all tax brackets. Also on Sunday, Sen. Jon Kyl (R-AZ), a negotiator on the tax bill, said that Republicans would agree to an extension of unemployment benefits as part of a deal on taxes. Tax negotiations are expected to resume on Dec. 6. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) has said that he hoped to have an agreement on tax issues by Wednesday, Dec. 8.



12/7/10 President announces "framework for a bipartisan agreement" on extending Bush-era tax cuts.
Late on Dec. 6, President Obama announced that the Administration and the Republicans had arrived at a "framework for a bipartisan agreement" that would extend the Bush-era tax cuts and give workers a 2% reduction in Social Security tax for 2011. How this agreement will be received by Congressional Democrats is uncertain at this time.
http://ria.thomsonreuters.com/taxwatch/default.asp



12/8/10 "Senate first" strategy for "bipartisan" agreement on extending Bush-era tax cuts.
On December 8, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid D-NV) said that the Senate may take up the "bipartisan" agreement to extend the Bush-era income tax cuts for all taxpayers before the weekend. "It's further along than most people think," Reid said. "I don't think there is a great more to be done on that."
http://ria.thomsonreuters.com/taxwatch/default.asp



12/09/2010 - House Democrats vow to block tax measure
As the Senate steamed toward a Monday afternoon vote on the far-reaching package, House Democrats were in open revolt. Amid chants of "Just say no," they agreed overwhelmingly during a private meeting Thursday to block the measure from going to the House floor, a symbolic move that underscored the depth of their anger.

Later, House Democratic sources said several options were under discussion, including an amendment to strengthen the inheritance tax provisions. By changing the underlying terms of the deal, however, such an effort could imperil the bill in the Senate, raising the risk that lawmakers could leave town without extending a host of tax provisions that are set to expire on New Year's Eve - hitting virtually every U.S. family with an immediate tax increase.

"House Democrats share the president's commitment to providing the middle class with a tax cut to grow the economy and create jobs" but "reject the Senate Republican tax provisions as currently written," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said in a statement. "We will continue discussions with the president and our Democratic and Republican colleagues in the days ahead to improve the proposal before it comes to the House floor for a vote."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...


12/09/2010 - Democrats block tax bill
House Democrats have blocked Barack Obamas tax cuts agreement with Congressional Republicans, to which Harry Reid is reportedly intending to attach his poker bill.

According to US media reports, Democrats are angry that the deal Obama struck on Monday is too generous to wealthy Americans by extending tax rates for the top two tiers of earners, and are demanding changes.
http://www.egrmagazine.com/news/610227/democrats-block-...








the more I researched, the more pissed off I got.
not just at congressional Democrats,
but at the thought that some would be so short sighted and simplistic
and prone to believe that the only worthwhile to do now is to blame just one man!



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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:27 PM
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1. WOW! I knew of some of this but...
After reading this I too share your GROWING ANGER the more I read! This should be posted in GD & then it SHOULD make its way ot the Greatest Threads on the front page! But like the Tea Baggers we have fact adverse people controlling the message on DU! SHAME!

Thank you for the hard work that went into gathering these facts & posting them!!
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 10:34 PM
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2. oops!
Edited on Sat Dec-11-10 10:34 PM by elleng
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 10:35 PM
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3. Thank you, Frenchie, as usual.
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 03:08 AM
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4. this is outstanding, FrenchieCat! thank you again, again, more for
all the work you put into that!!!

" ... the more pissed off" i am, too.

i have so much to thank you for, and now this too.


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