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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:16 PM
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George Allen Thugs tackle Mike Stark after he asks a question
Edited on Tue Oct-31-06 03:20 PM by Oreo
 
Run time: 02:24
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btMbyDmzs_Q
 
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Here is the YouTube video of the blatant attack on Mike Stark after he asked Macaca about why he spit on his wife. There are questions as to why Allen's divorce papers were sealed and the rumors that it has to do with physical abuse.

Mike Stark runs Calling All Wingnuts and gained notoriety by holding up a sign that said Hannity Sucks Ass live on the Hannity and Colmes show which you can see here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x9ejtfRimQ

More here:
http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/10/breaking-virgin...
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:19 PM
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1. "Stomping for votes"?
Yeah, that seems right!
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SouthernBelle82 Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:24 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. Really
And what's up with the audio? Why is the audio a little a head of the video? :shrug: Man what a fucking fascists. And notice how the room was only full of white people. That guy didn't deserve to get a beating like that. I hope he presses charges or something.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:46 PM
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12. I sure hope he sues
Was that a "private" security detail that attacked? Asking "inappropriate" questions does not make someone a danger to the senator; and tackling someone for asking whatever some lame brained no neck brown nosed security guard thinks (if you can call what passes for thinking) is "inappropriate" is worthy of putting those guys in the unemployment line to say the least.

Senator Allen, if your gents attacked me or mine like for an "inappropriate question", then you had better pray the cameras are rolling, because you're going to need it to figure out what parts belong to whom after I'm done.

What a bunch of nasty bullies.
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bikesein Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:40 PM
Response to Reply #1
7. That title fits
just fine. From legal intimidation to physical, nothing is beyond these guys.
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Caoimhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 04:59 PM
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36. This reminds me of Florida in 2000
the paid goons (including Yosemite Bolton) and their OUTRAGE.. When I first heard about this story just now on CNN, I must have heard it wrong because I thought it was Webb supporters attacking an Allen supporter. Thank GOD that's not the case. I agree that the newscasters are pussies. Who cares if Allen is ok? Was his life ever in danger? Is his life that much more valuable than this Mike guys life?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:33 PM
Response to Reply #36
95. Problem for some of those
fascists in Virginia is that allen is now more not okay then before the attack if you get my drift.
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grg Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 02:11 PM
Response to Reply #1
100. LOL n/t
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:21 PM
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2. politics sure is toxic
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:24 PM
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4. This is just a taste of what we will see if and when the republicans lose
I fear they will not go down peacefully
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SaveOurDemocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:38 PM
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5. Unreal...

I hope Mike's pressing charges.

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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:38 PM
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6. When Cheney doesn't like the question, he has you arrested.
When Allen doesn't like the questions, he has you tackled.

COWARDLY LITTLE WEASELS WHO CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH
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FuzzyDicePHL Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 04:03 PM
Response to Reply #6
19. And when Santorum's just afraid
of what questions he MIGHT be asked, he has you removed from the bookstore.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 05:22 PM
Response to Reply #19
38. No kidding?
Unreal.
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FuzzyDicePHL Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 10:38 PM
Response to Reply #38
60. Yes siree
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 11:49 AM
Response to Reply #60
88. What a sick person he is. Arrest teenage girls who don't agree?!
He's the most girly of girly men (ha!) I ever saw.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:42 PM
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8. If you want to ask the distinguished Senator a question...
...better take along some bodyguards to handle these goons.
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daveskilt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 11:08 PM
Response to Reply #8
61. my german is rusty but
where one burns books, one burns an end to humanity?
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 12:37 AM
Response to Reply #61
67. "Those, who start with burning books, will end with burning men."
Die Liebe ist der grosste Krafte, ja?
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daveskilt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 02:29 AM
Response to Reply #67
68. clearly not just rusty then
and to think I used to be pretty fluent.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:42 PM
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9. Assault charges?
I hope this guy files a complaint with the police. This is ridiculous.

Did the young woman whose hair was pulled by lunatic right-wingers at that rally press charges?
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:43 PM
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10. When did they get the right to respond to questions with violence?
It is frightening that the reporter was so blase about such violent supression of speech. You'd think the "liberal media" would wonder; who is that man? What question did he ask? Is it a legitimate question? What right do political aids have to assault someone just because he asks a challenging question? What is Allen hiding? Why not answer the question?

Instead we get a business as usual report as it is ordinary for someone to be tackled at a press conference? So sick.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:49 PM
Response to Reply #10
13. What Marnie said.
I hope they are charged with criminal assault. They should be arrested today. The evidence is right there for all to see.
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cannabis_flower Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 10:21 PM
Response to Reply #13
58. If Allen was any sort of a man..
he would have yelled at the guys and say "Stop that!"and make them stop. What are they? Mafiosa?
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:50 PM
Response to Reply #10
14. The reporter made a point of saying that Allen
Edited on Tue Oct-31-06 03:52 PM by LibDemAlways
was unhurt - as though the guy asking the question was violent and needed to be subdued. Also, no mention of what the question was, only the suggestion that it was "inappropriate" and was about "Allen's wife." Total bullshit. It was about allegations that Allen abused an ex-wife.

Typical corporate whore spin.
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jilln Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 04:18 PM
Response to Reply #14
29. I noticed that too.
It also makes it seem like Allen is the "more important" of the two. The TV station probably didn't even bother to find out if Mike was arrested or taken away or anything.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 04:55 PM
Response to Reply #14
34. "Senator Allen was unhurt after being assaulted by an unwanted question"
Give me a fucking BREAK.
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grg Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 02:13 PM
Response to Reply #14
101. cnn did a better job
of introducing the clip. it was more neutral, and they showed the video from an earlier point, let it speak for itself. of course, after the video was done playing, they made some ridiculous comment about how he had a backpack on and "you never know who you're dealing with."
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:44 PM
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11. He just lost the election.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:52 PM
Response to Original message
15. Was that Monday? eom
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:53 PM
Response to Reply #15
16. This morning - Tuesday.
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 04:00 PM
Response to Reply #15
18. It just happened today
I'll post as soon as I see any comment form Mike
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 04:03 PM
Response to Reply #18
20. Allen's not even a real southerner
He's some transplant from California who ingratiates himself with the right wingers by telling racist jokes. That's even worse.

(I think he's from California). Kudos to Mike. He gets the "balls of brass" award from me.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 05:24 PM
Response to Reply #20
39. Yes, southern Cal.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 03:56 PM
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17. Republicans sure have a low tolerance for questions being asked.
Hiding behind push polls, smears, lies, distortions and surogate hatchetmen to do your dirty work = OK. A constituent asking a question about your divorced wife = NOT OK. BTW, Macaca seems to have a habit of spitting on people.
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StraightDope Donating Member (716 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 04:04 PM
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21. Helloooooo LAWSUIT!
I hope Mr Macaca realizes that A: This does not help his chances of being elected, and B: He's going to get the shit sued out of him.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 04:07 PM
Response to Reply #21
22. Nothing makes a guy richer than to be beaten to hell by a bunch
of flunkies and having it on tape.
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caseylalonde Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 04:10 PM
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23. Thugs
Check out the local newspaper's account of the thuggish behavior of Allen's henchmen:

http://tinyurl.com/y5822u

Amazing how the smackdown was characterized as "Stark was whisked away from the hotel lobby where the incident took place in front of television cameras and reporters." Whisked away? Right.
:mad:
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rbottoms Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 04:11 PM
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24. George Allen Thugs tackle Mike Stark after he asks a question
What he should do is file assault charges right now.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 04:11 PM
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25. "... Omni Hotel ... Omni Hotel ... Omni Hotel ... Omni Hotel ... Omni Hotel ..."
Hell, it sounded more like "product placement" pandering to the Omni Hotel than news. Disgusting.
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 04:18 PM
Response to Reply #25
27. Lol. True though. Very sad. (eom)
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 04:17 PM
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26. Assult?
Is this a chareable case of assult? Where/will charges be pressed? This smells of a type of private security vigilatism that is often illigal and quite dangerous.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 04:18 PM
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28. The question he asked was, "Did you spit on your wife?"
See Talking Points Memo on this incident. http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com

To be honest, the thugs attack of the guy doing the questioning was a lot more brutal than I anticipated it would be. It's a wonder he didn't crack his head on that window.

And what's with the TV anchor bobbleheads assuring us that Allen is all right? No one approached Allen with intent to commit assault and battery. :eyes:
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 04:25 PM
Response to Reply #28
30. One of these days someone will be hurt
I wonder what will happen then. Would the defense be, "He/She was saying mean things"? Since when are political candidates and aids exempt from normal assault laws?
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 04:31 PM
Response to Reply #30
32. It looked to me like the guy *was* hurt.
Not permanently damaged, but jeez, that was brutal. They came within inches of giving him a concussion.
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 11:48 AM
Response to Reply #32
87. I meant like killed or hospitalized
Yah, he could have easily had a head injury with what they were doing. It's only a matter of time. It was brutal and the fact that it was in response to a question scares me so much. Is this the new "free speech zone"?
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 05:26 PM
Response to Reply #28
40. Way to adroitly defuse questions of abusive behavior- with abusive behavior.

As for the Korporate New$ Media, they're jus' doin their job. By saying "Allen was unhurt" they convey the message that said question asker was a dangerous, renegade loony, so surely Allen's staff was "justified" in tackling the guy.

Yeah- not to worry, people- the folks driving this tank were "unhurt", too:

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jilln Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 04:31 PM
Response to Original message
31. I predict Mike Stark will soon be charged with stalking.
I checked Calling All Wingnuts and this is not the first time he's tried to ask a question. Therefore, he has confronted Allen and been asked to leave him alone. Stalking laws can be really crazy.
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Polemicist Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 04:50 AM
Response to Reply #31
74. Little to no chance of any stalking violation...
If Mr. Stark only asked questions a couple of times at public events, as a blogger/journalist, then there is no chance that he could be considered a stalker. And as far as I know, Mike Stark had no contact with Mr. Allen under any other circumstances. Journalists posing questions to politicians at public media events wouldn't be considered stalkers, IMHO.

However, I would imagine that this would be a false line of defense that a Republican Allen supporter might like.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 04:54 PM
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33. LOVE how the pinhead media guy stated "Allen is okay"...
Oh.. thank GOD Allen is okay.. sheesh! :sarcasm: THey acted like this guy was attacking Allen, instead I see a man who asked a question being attacked by Allen's thugs... is this what he did to his wife, as well? Just askin?
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 04:57 PM
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35. NBC29 text & video--same reporter as on the YouTube
http://www.nbc29.com/Global/story.asp?S=5613839

Incident at Allen Campaign Stop in Charlottesville

Senator George Allen, (R) made a campaign stop in Charlottesville Tuesday morning and it was met with controversy.

As Senator Allen was exiting a ballroom, coming to talk to the media, a protestor started yelling and asking, "Why did you spit on your first wife?". He wasn't able to get near the senator as he was tackled by three men wearing Allen stickers, presumed to be staffers. He was pushed and manhandled and ended up on the floor, near windows at the Omni.

The man was ultimately removed from the building. Senator Allen went back into a conference room.

--0--

They smashed Mike's head up on the window glass!

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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 05:17 PM
Response to Original message
37. This is why we should all be learning to defend ourselves.
Edited on Tue Oct-31-06 05:37 PM by LoZoccolo
It is your right if you are assaulted.
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 11:59 PM
Response to Reply #37
63. Yeah, loved to have seen them get more than
they barganed for.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 04:07 AM
Response to Reply #37
72. I absolutely concur
Edited on Wed Nov-01-06 04:08 AM by TheWatcher
If they are going to start getting violent, then they need to pay the price for it. Maybe after they realize that the price they will pay for such action is going to be far higher than they are willing to pay, they will slither away like the cowards they are.

Let me tell you something, lurking freepers, at least speaking for myself.

You make this physical, and take this to the streets, you are going to get seriously hurt. BADLY.

We have had enough. You've abused us long enough. You've aided and abetted in the destruction of this country and everything that was ever good about it. You are traitors to your country. You are not going to use us as helpless punching bags.

You're going to start paying the fucking check.

You'd better back off and keep your hands to yourselves.

We may be liberals, but if you want to get stupid, you will find many of us will give you a war you won't fare well in, and you may not come back from.
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:03 PM
Response to Reply #72
93. seconded. n/t
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 05:27 PM
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41. Theses are the republican fascist brown shirts in action
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 05:49 PM
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42. Assaulting a heckler is a no no. Hecklers are the price you pay
when you are a controversial public figure. Just another example of what a total shit for brains allen is.
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WmDavid52 Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 05:54 PM
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43. Desperate People
do desperate things. No surprise. :shrug:
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 06:26 PM
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44. Is he going to file charges against these people?
This is assault, pure and simple. Those people had no right to lay a finger on him AT ANY TIME. Anybody who thinks the assault of a "heckler" (their term) is permissible needs to be brought up short in front of a judge.

Politics notwithstanding, this is unacceptable.
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 06:38 PM
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45. Any "staffers" try to manhandle me...
Edited on Tue Oct-31-06 06:39 PM by EnviroBat
They are gonna need some dental insurance. I will knock someone the fuck out! I apologize to all of the pacifists in the audience, but this is a fucking war for our country, it's time to start acting like it.
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 08:21 PM
Response to Reply #45
52. You should keep your powder dry Envirobat
A hot-headed response plays into the thugs hands. Keep cool, calm and collected. You are FAR more dangerous when you are thinking straight.

btw: welcome to DU. :hi:
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 04:01 AM
Response to Reply #52
71. I hate to dissagree with you, but.
What are we supposed to do, just let mindless thugs beat on us? Sorry, if someone physically attacks me, I am not going to sit there and let myself be injured.

The opposing party is going to get hurt. Badly.

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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:54 AM
Response to Reply #71
77. Think Ghandi
Don't give them even a chance to reverse the charges.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 11:26 AM
Response to Reply #77
84. Ghandi wasn't always peaceful - he used force when necessary.
He used ALL the tools that were available to him...
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 09:39 AM
Response to Reply #71
80. If there are cameras or reliable witnesses to record the incident and it is self-defence ...
then you will be able to defend yourself, however if you are going to end up in court charged with assault with a lot of goons swearing blind that you threw the first punch - don't be surprised.

It's a tough call, I'll admit. I hope you never end up in that situation.

:peace:
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 06:41 PM
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46. Better video link here
http://www.click2houston.com/video/10202525/index.html

You can hear the entire thing without idiot comments from the bubble-headed bleach blondes
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 08:13 PM
Response to Reply #46
51. Somebody get this on youtube! nt
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 11:45 PM
Response to Reply #46
62. oh, that was even better
good find!
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 06:42 PM
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47. Lou Dobbs just showed the whole thing
not just the clip linked in the local news. Showed the guy walk up to try and ask Allen a question. Never got closer than 6-8 feet and was shoved, put in a headlock, and pushed to the ground. didn't ever "fight" with the handlers. Looks like a likely case.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 07:18 PM
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48. This is the sign of a desperate, desperate candidate.
When security goons are instructed to prohibit free speech inside hotels. :wtf:

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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 07:54 PM
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49. The Macaca Mafia strikes again n/t
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 08:03 PM
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50. Allen and his staff are like a wounded animal now, flailing about desperately
in a way which will only increase the speed of their demise.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 11:38 AM
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85. (pssst) - no - they're just like the NAZI's...pass it on...
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 08:30 PM
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53. AP: Heckler subdued at George Allen event (at Yahoo News)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061101/ap_on_el_se/virgini...

"RICHMOND, Va. - A heckler who confronted Sen. George Allen (news, bio, voting record) at a campaign appearance Tuesday was put in a chokehold and slammed to the floor by three of the Republican's supporters in an incident captured on video.

Mike Stark, a liberal blogger and first-year University of Virginia law student, approached Allen at an event in Charlottesville, loudly asking, "Why did you spit at your first wife, George?" according to witnesses.

Three men, all wearing blue Allen lapel stickers, immediately grabbed Stark, dragged him backward and slung him to the carpet outside a hotel meeting room, according to video captured by WVIR-TV in Charlottesville. ... "
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 09:05 PM
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54. That's Typical of Big Bully George Allen's Style.
It's rubbed off on his SS Elite Guards too.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 11:40 AM
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86. I'll say one thing - allen is PERFECT repuke presidential material...
Just like his AWOL LYING WAR CRIMINAL hero w...
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 09:06 PM
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55. Let's Hope the Victim Sues Georgie for Bodily Damage!
This was an outright ASSAULT!
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 09:50 PM
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56. Here's Mike's blog
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 10:13 PM
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57. Mike Stark responds to today's event
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/10/31/183320/46

Letter from Mike Stark
Richmond Times-Dispatch

Oct 31, 2006

The following is a letter to NBC29 from Mike Stark, the man who was tackled for a comment he made at Senator Allen's campaign stop in Charlottesville on Tuesday.

My name is Mike Stark. I am a law student at the University of Virginia, a marine, and a citizen journalist. Earlier today at a public event, I was attempting to ask Senator Allen a question about his sealed divorce record and his arrest in the 1970s, both of which are in the public domain. His people assaulted me, put me in a headlock, and wrestled me to the ground. Video footage is available here, from an NBC affiliate.

I demand that Senator Allen fire the staffers who beat up a constituent attempting to use his constitutional right to petition his government. I also want to know why Senator Allen would want his staffers to assault someone asking questions about matters of public record in the heat of a political campaign. Why are his divorce records sealed? Why was he arrested in the 1970s? And why did his campaign batter me when I asked him about these questions.

George Allen defends his support of the Iraq war by saying that our troops are defending the ideals America stands for. Indeed, he says our troops are defending our very freedom. What kind of country is it when a Senator's constituent is assaulted for asking difficult and uncomfortable questions? What freedoms do we have left? Maybe we need to bring the troops home so that they can fight for freedom at George Allen's campaign events. Demanding accountability should not be an offense worthy of assault.

I will be pressing charges against George Allen and his surrogates later today. George Allen, at any time, could have stopped the fray. All he had to do was say, "This is not how my campaign is run. Take your hands off that man." He could have ignored my questions. Instead he and his thugs chose violence. I spent four years in the Marine Corps. I'll be damned if I'll let my country be taken from me by thugs that are afraid of taking responsibility for themselves.

It just isn't the America I know and love. Somebody needs to take a stand against those that would bully and intimidate their fellow citizens. That stand begins right here, right now.

W. Michael Stark
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electricmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 02:58 AM
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70. Awesome! My new hero.
"I will be pressing charges against George Allen and his surrogates later today. George Allen, at any time, could have stopped the fray. All he had to do was say, "This is not how my campaign is run. Take your hands off that man." He could have ignored my questions. Instead he and his thugs chose violence. I spent four years in the Marine Corps. I'll be damned if I'll let my country be taken from me by thugs that are afraid of taking responsibility for themselves.
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sarahlee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:06 PM
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89. Allen Campaign's response
Allen Campaign Press Release Concerning Incident

For Immediate Release:

October 31, 2006

Contact: Press Office 703.845.3689

Democrat Activist Verbally Attacks Allen

Allen Campaign Demands Webb Restrain Out of Control Supporter

ARLINGTON, VA - At the conclusion of a well attended event in Charlottesville, a Webb supporter wearing an Allen sticker aggressively went after Senator Allen, who was at an event with his wife Susan and Senator Elizabeth Dole, screaming that he answer inappropriate questions.

As the Senator was trying to exit the room with a campaign staffer, the Democrat activist, identified as Mike Stark, pushed the Allen staffer. Later, volunteers restrained him and asked to leave the building when he approached the Senator a second time, asking inappropriate questions.

This was not the first time that Stark, a frequent Daily Kos blogger, has aggressively confronted Senator Allen in front of TV cameras and been removed from the premises by event security. In August, Stark was asked to leave a Holiday Inn by management "after he became combative" while interrupting a press conference with Senator Allen. (Chris Graham, "Webb Supporter Asked to Leave Allen Event after N-Word Question," Augusta Free Press; August 25, 2006).

Stark has a history of violent outbursts on the Daily Kos, an extreme left-wing website, such as his post "The F*****g Way...Take These RNC F*****s Down". Daily Kos Link http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/4/12/02847/6131BY

He also posted his intention last night on his blog, Calling All Wingnuts, which is subtitled "Kickin' a*s on the lyin' side: A never-ending battle against stupid, ugly, deceitful and corrupt right-wing water carriers..." in which he wrote in reference to stalking Senator Allen,"So yeah... I miss doing this stuff - it seemed that at least once a month, something would happen that really got the adrenaline flowing... I miss those tasty morsels of victory." (http://www.callingallwingnuts.com / ; Accessed October 31, 2006)

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Paid for by Friends of George Allen

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See also: Mike is an Ordinary Hero <- A must read
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 10:37 PM
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59. From the "newscast"... what exactly is a "Jeffersonian conservative"?
The news reader said that Allen called himself a "Jeffersonian conservative." What the hell is that? I doubt Allen even has a clue how (oxy)moronic he is.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:48 AM
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75. Would own slaves
Charitably giving them healthcare and a K-6 education.
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 11:10 AM
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82. It means he watches lots of reruns of The Jeffersons.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 12:09 AM
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64. Stark was actually being a gentleman about it
he really didn't even fight back, then that older guy jumped in and knocked him against the window. Pretty chickenshit move, especially considering he's jumping a guy being held on to by two others and who is not even struggling. What a man, I hope he's proud.

I tell you what, if that ever happened to me, I doubt I could restrain myself like Stark did. He kept pretty cool about it all.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 12:26 AM
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65. that reporter on the "Scene" was like 23.....
He was extrememly excited.....

I like the way the Web reported it...

Hey, the kid was all into the moment...

Don't blame him for being all "in the moment..."

Charlottesville is the nations 186th largest market...

With a total penetration of .063....

Actual market size...69,750...

The kid was probably still in the local broadcasting school....
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 12:27 AM
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66. Why doesn't Allen just give up politics and become a skinhead?
Seems like he'd feel much more at home among that crowd.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 04:48 AM
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73. Ah, the skinhead factor
To which of the two major political parties would skinheads be most closely aligned?
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 02:35 AM
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69. K&R. This was broadcast on CNN. The more publicity this gets, the better.
And the CNN talking head said that "some may call it manhandling him." And "a very interesting day for him, no doubt" and "something you don't see all the time..." :eyes:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/10/31/allens-respons...
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:50 AM
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76. THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A JEFFERSONIAN CONSERVATIVE!
Jefferson founded the Democratic Party, he epitomises liberal, Enlightenment principles, he was a luke-warm Deist who abhored the deification of Christ, and he shocked his contemporaries with his drive to end slavery.

There was nothing conservative about him, and for Allen to try to take shelter in the Jefferson Memorial smacks of blasphemy, cynicism, and ignorance.
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moose65 Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 08:31 AM
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78. His "drive to end slavery"?
I must have missed that one in my history classes. From what I've been able to find out, even though Jefferson paid "lip service" to the fact that slavery was wrong, he didn't do much about it in practice. He owned 175 slaves at the time he wrote the Declaration of Independence, and later he owned over 200 (may have been closer to 300). He only freed a handful during his life, and a few more when he died.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 10:09 AM
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81. He Wrote It Into the Declaration of Independence
but had to sacrifice it to win over the South.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 09:24 AM
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79. KICK sorry I duped this
Very sorry
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sarahlee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:08 PM
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90. I found yours first and
posted some good background info re Mike there.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 11:20 AM
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83. Those awful Jews dared to keep their businesses going
even tho they forced us to break all their windows and smash their shops.

The brownshirts and Hitler are OK, we're happy to report...
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 02:12 PM
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91. Those FILTH!!!
I'm amazingly fucking pissed right now. :mad: Good to hear Stark's pressing charges.
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sarahlee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 03:58 PM
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92. The Young Turks on Air America Has Hired Mike Stark
What this country needs are more journalists willing to ask tough questions. I know one such person - Mike Stark. Mike's questions are so tough, he gets tackled for them. Senator Allen's campaign staff assaulted Mike after he asked them perfectly relevant questions about the Senator's divorce and arrest records.

Senator Allen is a public official - and one who runs on family values. Mike Stark was asking for records that might or might not show whether the Senator lives up to his campaign talk. And I can't imagine a more relevant question than why a Senator won't reveal his arrest record. There are far more questions that the Allen campaign has to answer for, let alone every other campaign, and the entire Bush administration.

In light of the fact that Mike has shown an ability to ask questions others are not willing to ask, for the benefit and education of the public, I am proud to announce that "The Young Turks" on Air America Radio has hired Mike Stark to be a reporter for the show.

I've known Mike for awhile now. He is attending the University of Virginia law school and he is a United States Marine. Once a Marine, Always a Marine. Semper Fi means something to Mike Stark. George Allen ought to look it up (perhaps in his divorce records).

Mike is smart, tough, well educated, dedicated and obviously courageous. This country needs more reporters like Mike Stark. I am proud to be part of an organization that is going to give people like Mike an opportunity to ask more tough questions of our elected officials. The people have a right to know.

And we're not done. We plan to hire more reporters in the future to cover political events around the country for us. If the mainstream press won't ask the questions, then we will.

I only wish we had hired Mike earlier and he could have been in the room to ask the White House about the Downing Street Memos, Jeff Gannon, the weapons of mass destruction, etc., etc. So many questions needed to be asked and weren't. We hope to change that.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur/the-young-turk...
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:30 PM
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94. Oh they don't know what they
started! george f(ucktard)allen..the gift that just Keeps on Givin'..'til he's blue in the face.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 08:27 PM
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96. Mike's going to be on Olbermann....
coming up soon :hi:
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 08:46 PM
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97. A word on your viewing privacy...
Edited on Wed Nov-01-06 09:31 PM by BushDespiser12
With the consolidation of YouTube and Google... when you watch videos of 9-11 (especially "conspiracy" vids), you might want to monitor through your Windows Task Manager the amount of traffic that ensues within the Networking tab window. I have watched many vids on many different topics, this monitoring/traffic is much higher when exploring "non-conforming" topics (ie. disagreement with official propaganda) on these videos. So give a :hi: to Big Brother

Test my theory: this vid generates minimal traffic. Watch "9/11 Press for Truth - Documentary on the Jersey Girls and the lack of press" below in the video forum. Very different traffic. Would appreciate any comments.. just my computer ... or yours also?

Pretty much verified my thoughts through Scarborough Country (MSNBC) in the feature that just ran. Every... I mean EVERY, single search is recorded and kept on Google databases. The increased traffic I have found during the video play is just recording more info that the Gov't deems as threatening. Flagged information. How depressing.
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sarahlee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 12:22 AM
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98. Mike writes: My side
Mike posted this today:
Anyway, I thought I'd share this remarkable link with you. It's remarkable in the sense that I'm not used to media providing uncut and unedited coverage like this. I've been miscast and characterized as a heckler, a protester - the verbiage of my questions has been widely mis-reported... I just think it's great that they've allowed this video to speak for itself. Channel 19, a CBS affiliate in Charlottesville, filmed me watching the video they had of the assault. Afterward, we discussed it. The only edit was a chop of a private phone call I received. It's 11 minutes long...

I've also written what I think is an important piece for the Huffington Post.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/11/2/132654/180
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O_Keeffe Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 04:30 PM
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103. it's great that they showed the whole thing, unedited, exposing the thugs
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grg Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 02:09 PM
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99. can they be any more stupid?
makes me laugh. their campaign fucks everything up.
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cjmastaw Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 03:12 PM
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102. Ironic
Wasn't Allen just saying something about punching soft
teeth... or something like that? Guess it wasn't just
political smear...
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