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rjones2818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 05:31 PM
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What NBC/GE doesn't want you to see and hear!
 
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The progressive voice in this campaign!

Go Dennis! :woohoo:
http://dennis4president.com
Vote your conscience, choose peace!
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 05:44 PM
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1. K&R
:kick: :kick: :kick:
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 05:53 PM
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2. That's MR Progressive to you, war profiteers!
Notice how they've abandoned subtlety.
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:03 PM
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3. Best DK spot I've seen. He's getting better as he goes along.
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 06:06 PM by Stevepol
Hope the American people get better in their understanding and insight at the same rate that Dennis is learning the ropes of campaigning and effective advertising.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 01:53 PM
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20. That would be great.
:thumbsup:
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 06:07 PM
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37. Yeah
Actually his strategy is also getting better as he goes as well, had it not been for the MSM working so desperately to ignore him (as well as the damnable Des Moine Register kicking him out of the debates) Kucinich might have been able to take partial credit for Obama's Iowa victory.

But let us see how this all plays out.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:16 PM
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4. Great ad
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:25 PM
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5. Don't forget ABC/Disney shutting him out too! - Call & email NBC now!!
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 06:27 PM by Breeze54
Good campaign video!!

:kick: & Recommended!

---------------

Please email NBC. Feel free to copy.

NBC/MSNBC, I object to your exclusion of Congressman Dennis Kucinich from the NBC/MSNBC
Presidential debate on January 15, 2008. Mr. Kucinich, whom you invited and subsequently
un-invited to the debate, is a presidential candidate who has fulfilled all Federal Elections Commission Criteria.

I remind you that you have been granted a license in order to operate.

I accuse you of violating and breaching the trust given to you by that license.

I accuse you of tampering with the election and attempting to change the outcome of the election
by excluding Dennis Kucinich. I demand that you include Congressman Kucinich in the NBC Democratic
debate of January 15, 2008 and all subsequent debates. The majority of the American people depend
on television to be informed.

I remind you, therefore that if you do not include Mr. Kucinich in the aforementioned debate,
you will be inflicting damages on the American people by depriving them of their right to be
informed before making their decision to vote, (in addition to other damages) and inflicting
damages on the Honorable Kucinich.

NBC/MSNBC: 212-664-4444

Email NBC/MSNBC: [email protected]


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Duval Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 01:40 PM
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17. NBC & MSNBC exclude Kucinich
:grr:  The above email address was  returned
"undeliverable"!???
Not including Kucinich deprives viewers of listening to his
views that represent the Progressives.  It would have shown
unity of the Democratic candidates if they had refused to
participate if he were not included.
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muyojoe Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:23 PM
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6. I LIKE DENNIS,
it is too bad the corporations are excluding him, because he is telling the truth. I wish he hadn't said that shit about the ufo, and I wish he or edwards would get the nomination. Then they could be on the same ticket, that would be awesome.
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TexasBushwhacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:17 PM
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11. Edwards & Kucinich?
How cool would that be? Do we have enough of the independents/MOR Democrats that would go for that though, or would they all crap their pants and vote for the GOP or just stay home?
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:50 PM
Response to Reply #11
42. Yes!
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 03:11 PM
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25. what would you rather he say about the ufo? do you want him to lie?
Kucinich and Edwards would never be on the same ticket. I get the feeling they have somewhere between little and no respect for each other.
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 04:12 PM
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33. Why does the UFO thing bother you so much.. geez.. Reagan & Carter saw them too.
what's the big deal .. really?
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maxanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 03:14 PM
Response to Reply #6
26. he didn't say
the shit about the UFO. Shirley MacLaine did.
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 04:10 PM
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32. Now you're talking!! yes. I could see an Edwards/Kucinich ticket in Nov.
The choice could not be clearer for America in Nov. with them on the same ticket... and they would kick some serious Rethug ass together..

only problem is, Dennis gave his Iowa delegate(s?) to Obama, which I could never figure out why he did that. do you know?
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 05:37 PM
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35. he didn't give anyone any delegates
He told his supporters to make Obama their second choice should he not be able to get the 15% or whatever was needed at any one location - he may have insured that Obama won more delegates, but Kucinich didn't give him any. All I really heard him say about why, was something vague about how he knows all of the candidates personally, and made his decision based on that, and would only apply it to Iowa.
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idiocracyhell Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 05:39 PM
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36. It confused me as well
but Kucinich said it was because of questionable dealings Edwards had with his hedge fund Fortress. Also Fortress is heavily invested in Humana, the health insurance company featured in the movie "Sicko." I don't think that sits well with Kucinich. Edwards talks about universal health care and corporate corruption, yet he's in bed with Humana, the worst of the insurance companies. I also think it hurt Kucinich on a personal level hearing Clinton and Edwards conspiring to limit the debates to "serious" candidates.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:38 AM
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7. He's Fighting Against Some Powerful Special Interests
on behalf of the American public. Unfortunately much of America is too dumbed down to understand what's going on and the real consequences of ignoring his message, but keep plugging away, you'll get my vote! Go Dennis.
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Bunkie0913 Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:55 AM
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8. The one and only Dennis
If the people only knew Dennis they would do everything in their power to have him leading our country. That is why the M$M shuts him out. Truth, justice and equality are for qualities that don't fit in the scheme of things.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:07 AM
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9. K&R for Dennis Kucinich!
:kick: :toast:
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:58 AM
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10. Kick & Nominated - Kucinich: a voice of sanity
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pauldp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 01:12 PM
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12. Wow. Great Ad! K&R!!
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 01:15 PM
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13. Wonderful ad!
As the word gets out, more people join his cause.
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fjc Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 01:20 PM
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14. What NBC/GE don't want us to know? Is that a joke?
If after all the debates the guy has been in so far the people don't know the points in that ad, including
him in the next debate isn't gonna make any difference whatever.
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pauldp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 01:28 PM
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15. Politics is like football - most of the country doesn't pay attention until
the playoffs. I know quite a few people who know nothing about Kucinich
but are just now starting to pay attention to the primaries - excluding him would
mean they will never find out what his position is.
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fjc Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 01:36 PM
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16. But thems the breaks bub.
Those who pay attention, as few as there are, know enough to have made their choices, and they have. He had the same chances that Biden et al had. His support is minimal even among Democrats. His crying foul here is sour grapes.
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pauldp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 01:48 PM
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18. Thems the breaks when the corporate media gives you 5 minutes
and everyone else gets 15 or 20 in a debate.
Bullshit.
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fjc Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 02:15 PM
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21. If you're referring to money...
sure, it would be nice if that was not the dominate factor it is. But Huckabee was in the same financial straights as Kucinich, and he managed to get his message across. This is Kucinich's second campaign. He's as known as fringe candidates can get. He's had his time and his chance. If Democrats wanted him, he'd have more support. Sorry.
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pauldp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 02:30 PM
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22. Did I mention money? I was talking about time alloted in debates.
That has nothing to do with money - as the Ron Paul situation has shown.
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fjc Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 02:33 PM
Response to Reply #22
23. No, you didn't mention money. That's why I asked.
As to alloted time, prove it.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 02:51 PM
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24. Heres a few graphs...
From June 5,2007










Try here for a more recent look at how much airtime the candidates have had.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 03:20 PM
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30. After seeing this, will more people now admit that the media had chosen their "top 3" months ago?
From the looks of it, they'd also chosen Richardson as their #4, to seem balanced. Oh, and guess what!? That's how it's still playing out, except that Kucinich was 4th in a poll, which they didn't count on.
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fjc Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 07:16 PM
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38. So, you're saying that is not a function on money?
And money is not one measure of support? Also, as I said earlier, and those graphs confirm, Biden and others were in the same situation. They didn't bitch about fairness. They dropped out. Too bad, because Biden to me was the only real candidate, followed closely by Dodd. But this party we both say we're a part of didn't give them anything close to the kind of consideration their stature had earned.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 01:51 PM
Response to Reply #16
19. How sad.
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maxanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 03:16 PM
Response to Reply #16
27. sooo
you're okay with a fellow Democrat being shut out by the media. That's perfectly okay with you.

Interesting.
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fjc Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 07:19 PM
Response to Reply #27
39. No. I'm not ok if they're "shut out".
But they weren't "shut out" by corporate media. They were shut out by the lack of financial support from within their own party. Huckabee was on a shoe-string campaign, and that wasn't because of corporate opposition.
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maxanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:30 PM
Response to Reply #39
41. what part of
re-writing the rules to keep DK out are you failing to grasp?

You're defending it - so clearly you are okay with it.
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fjc Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:21 AM
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43. What I fail to grasp you swallow whole.
The corporate conspiratorial mantra here is one of the reasons that the Dennis's of the world will always be on the fringe.
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maxanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:25 PM
Response to Reply #43
44. You aren't even bothering
to twist my words - you're using your prefab position and claiming I am, too. You'd be wrong about that.

I said nothing about corporate conspiracy. The FACT is that DK had been approved to appear in the debate. They rewrote the rules to keep him out.

Do you deny that this took place?
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 03:18 PM
Response to Reply #16
29. It's not sour grapes. Please look up what the correct meaning of "sour grapes" is.
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fjc Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 07:20 PM
Response to Reply #29
40. You do it if you think its important.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 03:16 PM
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28. yes, because obviously every potential voter has watched every minute of every debate up until now
but not including the debates he was barred from.... and forgiving the fact that he was given 1/3 the screen time of the other candidates.... and that the questions that were asked of him were largely pointless, and at times even asked for the purpose of marginalizing his candidacy and him as a human being.

So you think no one should watch debates then? EVERYONE knows all about Dennis Kucinich. I know I do..... who's this Obama guy... Edwards... huh? Whoa! There's a woman running too!! Hillary somethin' er other.

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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 03:21 PM
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31. The music is not effective. It has no emotional appeal.
Edited on Tue Jan-15-08 03:22 PM by JDPriestly
No warmth. No feeling whatsoever.
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idiocracyhell Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 05:13 PM
Response to Reply #31
34. I disagree
The music evokes optimism and hope.
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