Justice Scalia: Government is the minister of God with powers to "avenge" to "execute wrath"

[madfloridian]

Run time: 09:19 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W3IqpHmqDQ   Posted on YouTube: October 29, 2006 By YouTube Member: TrueIntentions Views on YouTube: 4219   Posted on DU: January 01, 2008 By DU Member: madfloridian Views on DU: 1282

 
This is a video about Dominionism, it is about the part of the religious movement in the US that is not going to go away. We have to keep on being aware and dealing with it.

Joan Bokaer of Cornell University's Theocracy Watch gives a rundown on the growing danger of Dominionism, also known as Christian Reconstructionism, the ideology behind the scenes of Christian extremism in the United States and abroad. An important video for anyone who wants to understand the motives of the American Taliban and what's happening to American politics.

http://www.theocracywatch.org

From the video near the beginning, she quotes the words of Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia.

Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia 2002:
"Government...derives its moral authority from God. It is the minister of God with powers to "avenge" to "execute wrath" including even wrath by the sword."

First Things May 2002

Sometimes I wonder if stopping the Florida recount was "God's will." My Republican family and my neighbors thought so.

Ohio in 2005 was declared by Rod Parsley to be a training ground for a national reformation...dominionism.

The fear and loathing in his message is palpable: He denounces public schools that won't teach creationism, require teachers to read the Bible in class, or allow children to pray. He rails against the "secular jihadists" who have "hijacked" America and prevent school kids from learning that Hitler was "an avid evolutionist." He links abortion to children who murder their parents. He blasts the "pagan left" for trying to redefine marriage. He declares that "homosexual rights" will bring "a flood of demonic oppression." On his church website you read that "Reclaiming the teaching of our Christian heritage among America's youth is paramount to a sense of national destiny that God has invested into this nation."

......"Ohio will be a training ground that will launch a national reformation, he said. At his call, the crowd repeated several times the Ohio state motto, ``With God, all things are possible,'' with a volume that reverberated against the tall buildings surrounding the Statehouse. He brought with him his own security, a media relations firm, singers, rappers and television cameras. A big-screen television near Parsley played a three-minute video on the effort to save Ohio, including the institution of marriage.

Parsley said he has a three-fold plan: evangelize at least a million people, one in 10 of whom will become converts; help the disadvantaged; and register up to 400,000 new Ohio voters over the next four years.

[Olney Blue]

1. WTF?

[Maat]

2. I have many of Joan Bokaer's CD's.

I love the way she brings it all together in a cohesive presentation.

[The Backlash Cometh]

3. He one scary sumbitch.

[silverweb]

4. Watch all 5 parts of this lecture.

These dominionists are a scary, evil bunch. If they could, they'd bring back the fucking Inquisition.

[hootinholler]

7. With the infiltration of the armed forces, they are working on it. n/t

[silverweb]

9. That they are.

Anyone who thinks they are too "fringe group" to be concerned about is delusional.

[Triana]

5. AMERICAN TALIBAN - that's exactly what I've always called them...

..or at least for the past few years.

It's a very apropos term.

AND HUCKABEE is one of them!

[hootinholler]

6. I use Tallibornagain

Seems to ring better and just rolls off the tongue.

-Hoot

[roguevalley]

8. I wonder when they go to God and he puts them into darkness as

far from him as he can put them, what will they say now for their crimes and hate and arrogance?

[balantz]

10. Ain't a hint of Jesus Christ in this fundamentalist sickness.

You don't have to be a Christian of any sect to see that. This is self-serving supremacy that weilds power through fear and judgement.

[sasquatch]

11. Yeah it seems like they preach as much as they can from the old testament

Especially about vengence and retribution,

[unpossibles]

12. ugh. I can't stand Parsley, and that Scalia quote is crazy but not surprising sadly

we need to keep an eye on this.

[iamahaingttta]

13. Can we start oppressing Christians now?

I really want to see these people being eaten by lions!

[psychmommy]

18. hey wait a minute.

i am a Christian too. can't you just feed the fundie crazy Christians to the lions. some of us are respectful of other peoples beliefs and cultures. we don't like war and we give to the poor and widowed. we are also embarrassed as all get out when the fundies are the only representation of a Christian many people see.

[iamahaingttta]

25. OK...

We'll only feed the fundie crazies to the lions.

As for the rest of you... well, this IS the 21st century! Time to grow out of your fairy tales!

(sorry if that's snarky. but I do believe they are fairy tales. even if you are a nice person.)

[pleah]

14. Where are the men in white coats when you need them! These people are getting

scarier by the minute.

[D23MIURG23]

15. So Scalia's official judicial philosophy is divine right?

I guess that makes sense, but how did this ASSHOLE get out of law school let alone on to the SCOTUS bench?

[The Wizard]

17. He's always been a political operative

He was known as "Tony the Fixer" in the Nixon White House. When questioned by real legal scholars he becomes dumb founded. By single handedly granting a stay in the 2000 Florida recount, he handed over our democracy to criminal fascists known as the Bush crime family. They make the Gambinos look like a Disney movie.

[indepat]

21. Maybe after mass impeachments and convictions of executive branch deservees, Congress can

focus on the Scalia-types in the judiciary.

[Bluenorthwest]

16. The Democratic Party has its own Dominionists now

The Obama campaign embraces the Dominionist movement. Donnie McClurkin is a Dominionist. A big one. And that is the fact.
So is it not a bit hypcritical for those who support religionism in politics for Obama to hold up the other side for criticism over the exact same thing? Pasley and Dobson are bad Dominionists but McClurkin is a good one?
Stand with Donnie, stand with Antonin, I see very little difference. If Obama can play up to Dominionists and Christian Reconstructionists, then so can the other side. Or are we saying the rules are different for our Party? We can bring religionism into the public discourse using far right reactionaries, but they can not? Explain why that is.
MCclurkin was always about far more than gay issues, but the phobic eye tends to forget that those who attack gays over religion are also out to get women's rights, from birth control to workplace protections, they wish to make divorce illegal and even more than gays they wish to see women who seek abortions and doctors who do them put into prison or excecuted for murder. Childless couples are criminals and must be forced to bear children or adopt, forced. That is your McClurkin, who Obama praises to the skies as a wonderful moral man.
But Donnie's ok, right? Becasue he bad mouths gays first. When Obama gives these nuts a 'place at the table' to inject their religion into your bedroom and examination room, you will wish you had listened to the gays.
Think very hard before voting for any candidate with Dominionist ties. Please. Think.

[psychmommy]

19. i listen to gospel music

donnie mcclurkin's songs come on our regular r&b stations. he is very popular in the black community. his music is very inspirational. i had no clue he was a self hating closet queen until i read it on du. i went to the links provided in one post and that is how i found out. our church doesn't try to turn people straight and so i was really ignorant of the situation. i have gay friends and relatives-they never brought this stuff up before. so don't assume that all of the gospel singers that obama had on the stage agree w/donnie. or that all christians do-because we don't. we are not all dominionists.

[Bluenorthwest]

23. And please don't assume that all gay men

have never been to a Gospel concert! Sister Sister and Hezikiah Walker are both well known for anti-gay rhetoric. As is McClurkin. They also sing very well, Donnie has a sweet set, but his mind is on the speck in my eye, and we both know where it should be instead.
Of course many Americans know Donnie from his televisized rendition of Stand, as sung to GW Bush at the Republican Convention in 2004. He cried real tears for W! So he's not unknown even in Republican homes.
One of the aspects that most disturbed me about the Obama McClurkin events was that the Gospel world is filled to the brim with talented, dedicated perfomers who are not associated with any sort of controversy along these lines. Another problem I have with it is that Obama treated it as some new area of discovery, a dialouge waiting for him to begin, when in fact many of us have been hip deep in the whole thing for 20 some odd years.
I attended a Gospel show as far back as 1985 or so that was dedicated to raising money for AIDS awarness in the black and latin communities. There was and there still is, a rather disproportionate infection rate in those communities. This concert was enormous, and had CiCi and Dione and James Cleaveland and this huge choir with Whitney in it. There were many clergy people present that night, and choirs from many Congregations made up the one on stage. There was Patti LaBelle- but also real live Pentacostals. Like my sister.
This whole McClurkin Obama thing has been a trial for me. For many more reasons than my orientation. Also my upbringing, my circle of friends, the death beds I have sat at, the songs I have sung and those who have sung them with me.
Thanks for your comment, and I certainly don't lump people into groups and judge them that way. That is what Donnie's lot does, not mine.
Peace Always

[Cheap_Trick]

20. these whackjobs have GOT TO BE STOPPED

by any means necessary. the future of this planet depends on it.

[bagrman]

22. Scary Dude.

[madfloridian]

24. Does anyone know if Alito and Roberts

follow this line of thinking?

[micraphone]

26. Good for you Judge

For continuing to show us and the the rest of the world what a bloody awful and dangerous fruitcake you are.

Tony and all his whackjob friends will be 'fixed'.

The backlash will come.

[Sam Ervin jret]

27. These "Christian's" don't even remember what Christ said. "Give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's

and give unto God that which is Gods" Jesus new the state and the soul were separate entities and tried to tell them so then.

These so called "Christians" have long ago stopped speaking, reading, teaching or understanding the words of Jesus. All they do now is make things up that line their pocket books and give more power to the powerful. Just as the Temple Priests did in the time of Jesus. It's time for these money changers to have their tables overturned.

[madfloridian]

28. A different kind..

of Christian. Concerned about having dominion and power, not concerned about love and caring for their fellow humans.