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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 10:40 PM
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Republican CNN/YouTube Debate: Republican focus group woman chooses John Edwards over any Republican
 
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pioneer111 Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 10:47 PM
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1. At Least he has opinions, she says. LOL
It shows that even the Republicans have heard him. I love it. This is in Florida where Clinton is supposed to be ahead.

John Edwards is our guy!!!!! :woohoo:
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 10:56 PM
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3. He is definitely the best candidate! (excepting Kucinich, who is a better man.)
He would win the general election easily. After all republicans are, for the most part, working people.
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bettync Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 06:38 AM
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20. Yes. Edwards can win the general election!
Working people of all parties can relate to Edwards. Edwards has the ability to make his progressive issues appeal to moderates. He explains them in down to earth terms, and provides a comfort level that his plans will work and that he knows how to pay for them without raising taxes on the middle class. (I wouldn't call Kucinich a better man. Kucinich is more extreme on progressive positions, and has always opposed the war in Iraq, but Edwards brings enough moderation to win the broad support needed to get the much needed programs passed.)
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 10:43 AM
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32. Repubs may be working people, but in a philosophical way
they deny it. They (philosophically) support big business, free enterprise, smaller government, and no unions. That is not a "working man" philosophy. While they may be working, they often must consider themselves better than their current station in life, and therefore can make their choices based on where they think they should be, rather than where they are. In other words, vote against their own self-interest. They pretend they are millionaires-in-the-making, and run their lives accordingly, which means disdain for other working people.

That's my perception anyway.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:52 PM
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39. American proverb:
Opinions are like assholes. Everybody has one.
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 07:15 PM
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55. I like
the way you sum that up. Yeah - millionaires in making. They're all gonna be there - a few failed business attempts or so into the future! Never mind that a floundering infrastructure will spoil my entreprenurial endeavors. NO MORE TAXES! Jizz-wads!
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 05:00 AM
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16. *Everybody* has opinions! Even Bush has opinions! My God, what a dumb remark.
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Heywood J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 08:52 AM
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27. "Even Bush has opinions!"
They belong to other people, but still...
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:57 PM
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40. Bush has no opinions of his own?
Retarded and backward opinions, but still opinions... Should the woman vote for her? :rofl:
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mrbluto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 05:37 PM
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54. What she means.
Do you sense what she's getting at?

She didn't articulate it well, but I read what she said as:

"at least he has principles, some sort of integrity"

So many of these candidates spout lines and have records that make figuring out where they stand a task like nailing jelly to a tree.

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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 06:22 PM
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61. I know what she meant, but it came out pretty dumb. And the TS didn't correct her, so...
I had to do it. ;-)
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:41 PM
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51. My dad really likes Edwards for '08
He's a lifelong republican and until about 6 months ago, still a Bush loyalist. He voted for Bill Clinton in his first term but ended up regretting it. Other than that, he's voted straight republican since Goldwater.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 10:53 PM
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2. That is exactly what I have been saying online for years.
We need someone who will say strongly what they believe in and fight for it. That is much more appealing to independents and republicans than double talking, waffling, or being "moderate".
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be inspired Donating Member (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:14 AM
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9. Totally agree with you!
Everyone can respect someone who speaks his mind and acts based on a moral compass that includes helping others less fortunate than himself. People of all political stripes will "get" John Edwards, which is great, because he's the most progressive Democrat we've got running. And at this point, I'm actually including Kucinich when I say that, because Kucinich used to be anti-choice and he would pick Ron Paul for his running mate, which is just crazy. Ron Paul is NOT progressive.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:19 PM
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47. I'm With You jsamuel And I've Been Saying For A Very Very Very Long Time
now that JOHN EDWARDS is THE candidate who can be a cross-over candidate! Where I live here in Florida, in my little spot further south from the snoots in Sarasota, MANY people like John
Edwards. Since it's STILL very warm here, I'm outside a lot and I have two John Edwards08 Yard signs up, and I bought the real colorful bumper stickers he has and have 2 on my mail box, so people stop and talk to me. I've lived here for years and MANY expected me to be a Clinton supporter because they know I'm an activist and solicit them from time to time.

I also have a chocolate lab and there are LOTS of dogs here too, so we meet when we are out walking the dog too and people ask me questions about him. There are three women here who are gay and had decided on Clinton, BUT I changed their minds! Several others who don't follow politics all that much were surprised about my not supporting Clinton so I just inform them too! So far, I KNOW I've switched 7 people to Edwards! I also printed up stuff from his web-site and hand it out now.... so even IF this is a Red County, in the GE I DO think Repukes will cross over to him. Many are not very happy this time around and I'm targeting them.

Just wish there was a place I could set up to pass out information, but it's almost impossible here. They don't even have vegetable stands here, they have to be inside!!

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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 07:23 PM
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56. I was surprized.
I went to the local Democratic club meeting last night and the body of the club leans towards Clinton. (Understand now - I live in a VERY red part of California) I stood up and talked about my fascination with Edwards, but the president of the club has the membership convinced (at leat he'd like to THINK they're convinced) that Clinton's the only slam-dunk for our party. I sure hope they don't all let him do their thinking for them!
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tired_old_fireman Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 11:19 PM
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4. This video is awesome.
It would make a great commercial.
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go west young man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 11:35 PM
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5. Edwards can take the South and you have to take the South to win.
Hence good ole boys like FDR, Carter, and Clinton. Edwards has the look, style and Southern charm to woo those Southern moms. Kucinich is the better man but Edwards can win. I think the MSM keeps building Hillary as a sure thing because they are afraid of what Edwards can do.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 11:59 PM
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6. I totally agree with you....
the South won't vote for Obama and to a bit lesser extent, Hillary...which sucks. Sometimes I hate that the deep South is in our country. I am actually afraid to go to Mississippi...I'm a big mouth Yankee that they don't like.

I think we have to go for Edwards...he can win. Plus, he is the one with the best message (excluding Kucinich).

That he takes Repugnant Women is HUGE! The Democratic Party better be using their data base and go after Pro-Choice Repugnant Women...there are a ton of them! He'll give them a reason to vote.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:01 AM
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7. for starters, not calling them Repugnant would help :)
;P
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:46 AM
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12. Oh....the people who gave us
the past fabulous 7 years? No, I meant Repugnants. They have to be Demitized first! lol
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rockybelt Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:10 PM
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42. How about
Repulsives? Does that work?
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WileEcoyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:08 AM
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8. It may help is we win Dixie
Edited on Thu Nov-29-07 12:11 AM by WileEcoyote
But it isn't crucial.

Another school of thought is to say; Fuck the Southern States. We don't need these stupid Red State fools who clamor for family values and then allow pedophiles to run riot through the GOP.

One of Mike Papantonio's "Pap Attacks" deals with this. He says: "Screw the South. We don't need them".

Pretending to be a "moderate" in order to woo the Nascar dads is just a dunb idea. These inbred GOP voters will vote for a republican no matter what. Sure let's hope that John Edwards wins the nomination. He's as good as any one running for president and i don't have any real problems with ANY of the Democratic Party field. At least until they start dumbing down their message in order to win Red States like Texas or Mississippi.

That just alienates the Democratic Party base and wins no southern votes we need at all.

So screw Dixie! Just look at the asshole that's leaving his Senate position from Mississippi before the new lobbying bill is enacted. All for the money.

Plus: Cutting off pork funding for southern states would send a cold message to these dumb southern rednecks. Vote republican? You won't get even one federal project in your county.

They will never see the light but they can feel the heat.

Play hardball with those idiots. With my apologies for any good Liberal Democrats living in the South. We know you're there and fighting the good fight.

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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 07:52 AM
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22. They've always been afraid of Edwards
I've always thought the Repugs were most afraid of Edwards and nothing has changed my mind. That's why they started the $400 haircut/26,000 sq foot house crap so early and so often. Talk about using class warfare which they always accuse the Dems of doing.
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zazzle Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 09:00 AM
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Repub strategists admitted Edwards was the one they feared
 
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After the 2004 election, Repub strategists admitted Edwards was the one they feared most. So - they attacked Kerry during the primaries - and the Dems rushed to him. And it worked!
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zazzle Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 09:00 AM
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28. Repub strategists admitted Edwards was the one they feared
After the 2004 election, Repub strategists admitted Edwards was the one they feared most. So - they attacked Kerry during the primaries - and the Dems rushed to him. And it worked!
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go west young man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 10:17 AM
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31. It's also why Ann Colture tried to pin the gay label on him.
Fear. She's afraid he is the best candidate. That should have been a message to all dems. He can win.
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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:22 PM
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38. The Dems fall for it all the time
No matter what the Repugs say or do the Dems fall for it. In elections, in Congress, in the Senate. They are dying to run against Hillary with all her negatives and to energize their base. So the Repugs say how strong a candidate she will be and the Dems clap their hands and think they should nominate her.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:27 PM
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48. I Beg To Differ With You... I Will Admit That Florida May Not Be Truly
southern, but it's truly mixed up! A lot of the local Democrats here think we should target them because of what has happened these past 7 years!

Bush isn't a popular guy here and they're FED UP too! Of course, the Primaries are out for us... still the GE is what counts. A little more of the TWO Clintons and Edwards may just be the perfect alternative! I'm no racist, but I don't think Obama can do it here.

Plus, many in my county NEVER liked Clinton! We don't get Democratic candidates stumping here. Even when Clinton was running for his 2nd term, he didn't come here!



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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 10:16 PM
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60. "Cutting off pork funding for southern states" hurts
poor Blacks in Dixie more than anybody else. Might want to rethink that one.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 06:36 AM
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19. Good old boy FDR
was from Dutchess County NY.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 08:42 AM
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24. No you don't- The battle field is in Va. and the mountain west
Okay Va. is the South but not the deep south. You don't need the south to win the electoral college votes and the Republicans are basically just the party of the south now anyway.
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:03 PM
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52. We don't need the south to win
Observe:



Map from http://www.270towin.com /

Now, I'm not saying it won't be great if JE can pick up some southern states, I believe he can and will. I just don't like the myth that democrats "need" the south. I think our efforts would be better spent in the west and upper midwest.

Also, I don't think Hilary is the media darling she was even just a couple weeks ago. All I hear about lately is how unstoppable Obama now is. But I'll be damned surprised if Edwards doesn't win Iowa. Damned surprised. Possibly by an unexpectedly large margin.
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Reno.Muse Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:16 AM
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10. wooohooo!
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cosbo Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:31 AM
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11. Edwards won the republican debate....
heh. that's funny.
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 07:47 PM
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57. Welcome cosbo!
So glad to see you here! :hi:
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:49 AM
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13. That's gotta find it's way into an add somehow.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:54 AM
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14. Yeah, Edwards is the one republicans are scared shitless of - if he wins the
nomination.....they want Hillary and see her negatives as their best chance....they certainly don't want a progressive fighter like Edwards.....Edwards is going to make an excellent prez.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:44 AM
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15. The GOP will say that this woman is a covert Democrat
who pretended to be a Republican in order to infiltrate and subvert this Focus group.

Iowa is a tight race. Right now it looks like anything could happen there.

But if Obama does better than Edwards in Iowa, it will all be over for Johnny.
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be inspired Donating Member (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 11:00 AM
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34. Who cares what they say?
The fact is that many Republican voters will cross over to vote for John Edwards, but wouldn't necessarily do so for Obama, and certainly wouldn't for Hillary.

And by the way, if Edwards does better than Obama in Iowa, it will be all over for Obama, too. And I'm betting that's the more likely scenario.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:31 PM
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50. Seems Like It Was Clinton Who Got Tagged With A Plant Again!
I was on my way out this AM and think I heard someone on C-Span saying something about a Clinton plant again. I can't say the lady wasn't a plant but I haven't heard about it yet.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 05:21 AM
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17. woohoo!
Edited on Thu Nov-29-07 05:27 AM by themartyred
I'm proud of her for realizing it. I'm sorry she still aligns as Republican, but hopefully John will convince her to join the good side...

totally needs to be a commercial, so here's mine until the Edwards people make their own, it's the clip plus closing comments by John at his SEIU speech -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf3EmK7J4EE
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 06:28 AM
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18. Dincha just love it when she said that?
:evilgrin: :bounce: :kick: :headbang: :yourock: :woohoo: :applause:
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 07:30 AM
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21. Nice endorsement !
Thanks j :hi:
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 08:28 AM
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23. why would any Dem want to risk choosing a divisive candidate when there are
Dems who can reach across party lines like shown here.

Thanks for posting Jsamuel!
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rAVES Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 08:44 AM
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25. "Its a trap"
Yes, my honest opinion.. the election will be handed to Hillery, or an another Democratic "safe hand"

This will make everybody sigh with relief and say YAY we won!! then roll the fuck over and go back to sleep.
The same agenda will be followed only less Hawkishly, less in your face, this is like an 8 year healing period for the US before another Hawk gets the office and pushes the US slightly further over the line to fascism..

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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 08:47 AM
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26. Any question which one of the top tier candidates could walk away
with the general election? You think you're going to find some rethugs flipping for Hillary?
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 09:18 AM
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29. With Edwards at the top of the ticket, the election
wouldn't be close enough to steal. Hillary or Obama would produce a squeaker - and you know who benefits when elections are close.
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benny05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 10:02 AM
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30. Not surprised
Edwards has cross-over appeal.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:13 PM
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43. being totally fair to the other 2 leaders
in the race, Obama & Clinton. They all have crossover appeal because B*sh is a total MORON and anyone still backing him has their head in the sand and is a "Hitler"-Republican (backing to the bitter end), or is ignorant, literally.

However, John, I believe has much more appeal in states that are tossups that we could win with the right candidate - and that would result in a LANDSLIDE! No fudging numbers that way! Union & farmers, small town folks, would back him over a Romney or Giuliani easily - he's much more uplifting.

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here_is_to_hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 10:56 AM
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33. Sweet...n/t
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 11:01 AM
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35. Edwards Wins!
The Repuglickin' Debate!
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 11:45 AM
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36. Edwards would win with a landslide and greatly expand our hold on Congress.
He would really help us in many Southern districts.

Don't want Hillary? Figure it out.
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meowomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 11:45 AM
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37. Obama blew it with the anti Gay preacher
I am supporting Edwards.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:00 PM
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41. I was smiling ear to ear when I heard this.
I'm pretty sure there was heckling when she was speaking. I thought I heard some screaming.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:18 PM
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44. Wow! I hadn't heard this yet
excellent! I don't think the Reps won anyone over with that crap last night.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:25 PM
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45. I Like Edwards
I do believe he is one candidate that can win over disaffected conservatives.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:37 PM
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46. "I didn't like him on T V...."....gawd some of us americans are scary
Edited on Thu Nov-29-07 01:39 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:30 PM
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49. Yup. Scared me too.
It's like the profession of "Actor" is misunderstood by the masses.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 04:14 PM
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53. I'm an Edwards supporter but it is depressing to see this kind of "thinking"
Edited on Thu Nov-29-07 04:18 PM by spooky3
As my avatar hero has pointed out repeatedly, the Rethug tendency to rely on what one feels in the gut, which is incredibly easy to manipulate through TV, is truly frightening. That they would rely so much on it for such critical decisions...well, we have all known about this but this video really drives it home again...This kind of "support" will probably last as long as she doesn't catch a snippet of someone else who says something "opinionated" on TV next week.

There are a hundred good reasons to support Edwards. Wish she had better ones.
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AmBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 08:19 PM
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58. I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS!! Repubs will vote for EDWARDS
Edited on Thu Nov-29-07 08:19 PM by AmBlue
When I knocked on hundreds of doors in 2004 for Kerry/Edwards, I heard over and over from Republican spouses of households I visited:

"Now, if it was Edwards/Kerry I'd vote for 'em."

John Edwards is The Man!!!
:kick:
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 08:49 PM
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59. Makes you wonder why any woman would be a Republican
Republicanism is mostly a selfish ignorant white man disease.
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