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SavWriter Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 11:53 AM
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Olberman to White House. What the hell is going on?
 
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Countdown with the great Olberman takes Obama to task on EPA smackdown. Truly inspiring rant.
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_ed_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 12:36 PM
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1. I guess we have to throw KO under the bus now, too
Getting crowded down there. He obviously never got his pony.
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 12:49 PM
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4. "What are you going to do? Vote for Perry?"
That is from Keith and it aptly sums up Obama's policies and re-election strategy: move as far right as possible to be just a smidgen to the left of Perry. Fuck that.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 01:52 PM
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7. Agreed.
Fuck that.

I don't vote for republicans even if they have a D behind their name.

My dollars will go to liberal candidates around the country who need help & I will walk my precinct for local candidates & issues. If pro-Obama stuff is in the packet, so be it. But when it comes to my vote, I don't have a problem a write-in vote.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 04:42 PM
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21. Waiting for some type of justification.Is his family being held hostage?What's the end game?
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 04:43 PM
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22. What are we left to do.All dems running for president would do no better-that's scary
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 04:46 PM
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23. The universal soldier says "I'm going to kill them all sir". No Mayan calendar for 2013.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 04:47 PM
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24. The movie "2012" is starting to look like a documentary huh
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Harry Monroe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 08:46 AM
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30. I think you're confusing "2012" with "Idiocracy". Now that's a documentary of things to come!!
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 12:04 PM
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42. You really think Sen. Bernie Sanders would have done this?
Or a Pres. Matt Damon?

Or Michael Moore?

Or the tons of democrats who could run for office -- ?

Would you do it?

Do you think I'd do it?

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trud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 10:06 AM
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32. Re 21
That was my thought, sort of. I thought, Is someone blackmailing him?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 12:08 PM
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44. If that were so, it's treason ... and it's not about a family at stake...it's about a nation, planet
at stake -- !! Humanity --
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 01:59 PM
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45. +1
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 12:44 PM
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2. He is obviously a 'hater' of all things liberal and good.
We have always been at war with Eurasia, I mean Olberman.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 02:16 PM
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9. those who throw around the ''hater'' word are careful not to call themselves liberal--wouldn't be
prudent.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 04:40 PM
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20. Such propaganda you spout
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 12:46 PM
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3. Often I wish that Obama could WATCH shows like these himself.
I'm assuming he gets feedback through his staff OR he relies solely on his advisor's to keep him apprised. I think he'd have a far greater understanding of how we feel if he would tune in occasionally.
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 12:56 PM
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5. Why do you think he doesn't?
I do not buy that the President is simply isolated by his advisors and that if he only knew the truth he'd change. BULLSHIT. He knows and is just cynically playing Machiavellian to do whatever political calculus is necessary to maintain a grip on power. Namely his strategy has ALWAYS been to carry the water for the most powerful of interests, regardless of their political ideology, and to turn his back on the powerless people who put him into office.

I have followed his career since the late 80's and this is simply who Obama is. He is not ignorant, benevolent, or courageous, or possessing any moral code. He simply adopts the view and takes the instructions of the ruling moneyed elite.
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timefortherevolution Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 01:51 PM
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6. Best description I've ever heard of him. Sums him up perfectly.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 02:14 PM
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8. Because he's so busy I assumed he trusted those around him to
give him the reports. That's what I'd do. That's what I'm payin' them for! :7

I'd spend every minute I could with my kids and spouse doing non-political stuff. :shrug:

I haven't followed his career as you have, but I disagree with your assessment of him.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 02:44 PM
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10. But who does he surround himself with?
Bill Daley, Rahm Emmanuel, Timmy Geithner, Larry Summers, and other messengers from the ruling moneyed elite.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 03:13 PM
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12. Well, yeah. I gotta give you that. That's something that has always
bothered me since day one -- his appointments.

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A wise Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 02:49 PM
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11. I think he's a scared black man
too affraid to step out of slavery from the terrible white sheet rethugs into freedom of himself and all us AMERICANS.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 03:16 PM
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14. I actually think some people are right on about his wanting to be
the get-along-guy. I have some of the same makeup (and I'm a white woman) but I will go above and beyond, often to my detriment, to try to get others to Play Nice. Plus, I always give the person "just one more chance". I'm 57 so don't think I'll change at this stage, and am so glad I never got married because I can just see me living with some ass for far too long because I want to believe in the goodness in people. :shrug:

But being black and having to deal with the racism and bigotry all his life -- I'm don't see how that COULDN'T affect him to some extent.

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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 11:54 PM
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27. compromise= being liked and accepted perhaps?
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trud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 10:16 AM
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33. gately
I'm female, older than you, and I went into engineering/science where I actually got assaulted by fellow students for "taking a place away from a man." There's no way that turned me into a get along person. If I were President,and it were necessary, I'd bust chops to get things done, just as I did as a manager.

(Yes, I did get promoted even though I was female. No raise though. And I discovered that the people I was supervising, all male, made 30% more than I had in their job slot. That I got fixed, although I never got a retroactive compensation.)
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 04:50 PM
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46. Yeah, but that's you, trud, and Obama is Obama.
I WISH Obama had your attitude and make up, but he just doesn't seem to.

But good for you, trud! I know TOO MANY women who have just accepted this crap because "that's just how it is". I want to shake them! :headbang:
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 03:15 PM
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13. He watches football, but not the news? He reads books, but not
newspapers? If he is that far from reality, there is no coming back and no need to run for a second term.
I think he knows exactly what is going on and agrees with it. :wtf: :nuke:
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 03:19 PM
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15. I think he NEEDS the escape of football or whatever he can do
for a respite. And again, if I had people (whom I trusted) telling me what the news was reporting, I'd figure I had it covered.

The problem is, we all interpret things differently so his staff's take on it could differ from what we from the outside are seeing, and differ even among each other.

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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 03:36 PM
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16. All white advisors
Naturally they are going to see things from a different perspective and it is going to get filtered to him. I was always dismayed that he doesn't have ANY top level black advisors. For Chrissakes he's supposed to be from Chicago! Chicago has the second largest number of African Americans of any city. He has no close "friends" other than rich white guys?

Again, my take on it is that he turns his back on those who propelled him to power, and now is the lapdog of the rich, white, elite in a vain attempt to be accepted as one of them.

He chose his advisors, and by extension, their policies.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 03:51 PM
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19. Yeah, that's bothersome I have to admit.
Plus the KINDS of advisors trouble me, too. I'm thinking he should have the likes of Paul Krugman instead of Geithner, Reich in some role, should have NEVER let Van Jones go, etc.

But I just think (and I'm ready to be met with disbelief) he's too strong to be anybody's lapdog. I know, I know, but that's my take. :eyes:

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mazzarro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 07:35 PM
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26. Another question in this regard
What role is his wife playing in advising him? I used to think that spouses of leaders - especially US Presidents - tend to be their closest confidants? Does his wife not have any influence in all of his decisions?

I am coming to believe that he is agreement politically with rethuglicans - possibly moderately conservative rethuglicans and a closet DLC, or Third Way or New Democrat member.
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trud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 10:20 AM
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34. wife
I have never seen any indication that FLOTUS gives a flip about politics. This is not Eleanor Roosevelt or Rosalynn Carter we're talking about here, not even Betty Ford.
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 10:36 AM
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35. Agreed
She is more akin to a Laura Bush or Rosalyn Carter. Not to belittle her, but she is simply the wife of the President. Nothing wrong with that, just not very helpful in the political department.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 03:07 AM
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28. "He has no close "friends" other than rich white guys? "
I have wondered all these things, myself. Sometimes I do think it is a vain attempt to be accepted as one of them.
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 03:37 PM
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17. WOW ! Are you serious ?
:wtf:
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 03:44 PM
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18. Yep. nt
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 11:51 AM
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39. Obama has just overruled his own environmental advisors ... !! Obama alone chose not to do it--!!
Edited on Mon Sep-05-11 11:53 AM by defendandprotect
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SharksBreath Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 05:36 PM
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25. He's too busy watching O'Reily at 8pm.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 11:49 AM
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38. This isn't a lack of understanding - on the contrary, it is purposeful corporate decision making ...
As further evidence of that, keep in mind he has overridden his own environmental

advisors!!

Obama stands entirely alone on this one -- and the Chamber of Commerce and the oil

industry are the winners!

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FlyByNight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 06:23 AM
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29. Contravening your own EPA...
...doesn't look very good. Nor is it good policy (apologies for the understatement).

By now, I'm not surprised anymore. I don't recall witnessing a president being so utterly conflict and risk averse. I can hardly wait for his jobs speech.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 09:02 AM
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31. Exactly... why should I vote?... again?
Well, I guess I can't complain unless I vote. But, y'know, I'm tired of complaining.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 10:44 AM
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36. This decision is 100% within the White House.
None of the tired old excuses are valid here.

Its NOT The Republicans.

Its NOT the Congress.

He DOES own the Magic Wand on this issue.



You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.

Solidarity!
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 12:06 PM
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43. Seriously.
Where are all the "he got this" crowd on this one?
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 10:58 AM
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37. K & R !!!
:kick:
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 11:54 AM
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40. Isn't an "economic coma" a depression -- ?????
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 11:57 AM
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41. "Corporations need to destroy planet, nature, humans in order to create jobs" --- ?
Edited on Mon Sep-05-11 12:02 PM by defendandprotect
That's pretty much the summation and we all need to challenge such thinking - !!


Folks, we can all live together without the industrial revolution --

return to simple trading among ourselves -- Cripes, we are 2/3rds of the

economy!

Junk "Manifest Destiny" and "Man's Dominion Over Nature" thinking ---

We don't need corporations in order to have the goods we truly need.

But we do need clean air, water, soil -- and an environment free from atomic weapons and

nuclear power plants!


At this point, our vegetation even as it exists now has been robbed of pretty much

all of its nutrients!



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