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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-11 12:36 PM
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Cracked Fukushima: Radioactive steam escapes danger zone
Edited on Wed Aug-17-11 12:39 PM by Generic Other
 
Run time: 04:45
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fimRJocH_90
 
Posted on YouTube: August 17, 2011
By YouTube Member: RussiaToday
Views on YouTube: 313
 
Posted on DU: August 17, 2011
By DU Member: Generic Other
Views on DU: 2153
 
Aug 17, 2011

Workers at Japan's Fukushima plant say the ground under the facility is cracking and radioactive steam is escaping through the cracks. The cooling system at the plant failed after the devastating tsunami hit Japan in March, sparking a nuclear crisis. But new evidence suggests that Fukushima reactors were doomed to cripple even before the massive wave reached them. RT's Anissa Naouai talks to Dr. Robert Jacobs, a Professor at the Hiroshima Peace Institute.

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Can anyone find other sources for the claims being made here? Is this anonymous workers? Rumors? Quoted sources?
Is this video credible? Sounds to me like the problems at Fukushima are getting worse not better. What do some of the rest of you think?

Professor Jacobs appears to be very knowledgeable. Is RT today a credible source? They seem to provide in depth detailed analysis of news that I find rather lacking in our own mainstream news. Kind of surprises me actually.

on edit: the only source I could find on the workers.

http://fukushima-diary.com/2011/08/breaking-news-splash...
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-11 12:47 PM
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1. No, Russia Today is not a credible source. It's a conspiracy theory clearinghouse.
Among other "news" they push is 9/11 conspiracy theorism, giving Birthers lots of airtime, and other similar lunacy. It's actually run by the same people who do Pravda.

Beyond that, this doesn't pass a basic science test. That the "ground" is cracking and releasing radioactive steam? Where did this steam supposedly come from? What's creating it? Radioactive steam doesn't magically appear underground.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-11 12:57 PM
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2. The problem is that you do not have any more credibility with me then they do
because you clearly have a bias and are never able to objectively judge any story coming out of Fukushima. You seem to be a defender and apologist for the nuke industry.

I am merely a DUer worried about health risks, radiation exposure, contamination and proliferation of dangerous technology that has proven itself unreliable and unsafe as far as I am concerned.

I thought the professor made some interesting observations. What did he say that you take issue with? Other than being interviewed by a website you don't like?
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-11 01:05 PM
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3. Thom Hartmann interviews Dr. Michio Kaku on RT
Edited on Wed Aug-17-11 01:14 PM by Generic Other
As I said, these folks often offer very in depth discussion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm8y7_nl6MU

on edit: Dr. Kaku compares the managers at Fukushima to Homer Simpson. He says only firemen keeping meltdown from happening. That TEPCO is making it up as they go.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 02:53 AM
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8. That deserves a seperate post
I thought it was an old interview until I saw it was posted Aug 15.
Excellent interview, playing it in the background.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 10:35 AM
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9. So few people are listening
Maybe it's fear. If you pay attention, you just get depressed and feel powerless, so people ignore the disaster in Fukushima.

I just want it to be contained, so clean-up can begin. And to learn lessons from the catastrophe that impacts how we all look at nuclear energy.

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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-11 02:18 PM
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5. Pay no attention to Nukies.....
...because they're in-part, the reason that we're in this mess to begin with -- and you have every right to be worried since we are all breathing in radioactive hot particles and being affected by the radiation that is spewing from this hellhole.

According to a report broadcast by NHK yesterday, TEPCO says that the damaged reactors and cooling ponds at Fukushima are releasing an estimated 1 billion becquerels per hour into the atmosphere.

That's Per. Hour.

This tragedy is spreading death all over the planet.

It is still totally out of control.



K&R
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PearliePoo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-11 02:05 PM
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4. Here are some web-sites for you.
At http://ex-skf.blogspot.com / this very subject is being discussed right now.
Two others:
http://www.fairewinds.com/updates

http://enenews.com /

Fairewinds is Arnie Gundersen.He is considered very knowledgeable in the nuclear energy industry. He has videos in which he discusses the Fukushima situation.

enenewes is a compilation of articles nuclear related. They allow comments. IMO, the comments range from good, credible information to somewhat far-fetched and everything in between.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-11 03:23 PM
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6. And we all have been defending their creds too
I find them very good sources myself.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 02:49 AM
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7. Tepco detected sharp rise in radiation before the tsunami arrived
Edited on Thu Aug-18-11 02:49 AM by bananas
so we know the reactors were seriously damaged by the earthquake before the tsunami hit.

Read these three posts in a thread from July 3,
they each have seperate links to credible sites:

Atlantic Wire talks to Fukushima Whistleblowers
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

5. Tepco detected sharp rise in radiation before the tsunami arrived
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

10. An interesting point made by one of the authors (Adelstein) in the comments section
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 10:41 AM
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10. Japanese were looney to build that reactor where they did
It isn't like they intended to use saltwater as coolant. And their earthquake/tsunami history is so extensive. Absolute madness. All so the Ginza in Tokyo could glow neon from outer space and sell just one more "Hello Kitty" product to mindless consumers!

And now it isn't the big quakes that they must fear only -- it's any shaking at all! Madness.
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aj727b Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 04:52 PM
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11. Yes they were :silly: crazy ... to build them anywhere
There is no safe place for a reactor, but they chose those places almost the same way that we do it in the U.S. Look at where the nuke plants in the U.S. are and if you didn't already know it, you will get a queasy feeling and your bowels just might need a bathroom :hurts: . We put them in "sane" places :sarcasm: like the headwaters of the Mississippi or right outside NYC or smack dab in the middle of the gigantic Cascadia fault system on the West Coast that produces massive quakes on the coastal edge with "super tsunamis" on a regular cycle... (sound familiar?) But at least when we found that fault under the plant we didn't hold the blueprints upside when we put in earthquake retrofits... oh wait... yes, we did. The engineers who gave it an "A-OK" for quakes approval built it all backwards. You CANNOT MAKE THIS STUFF UP, folks. Hope y'all sleep better than I do.
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