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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 01:31 PM
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Dylan Ratigan Explains His Epic Rant (While MSNBC Keeps Him At A Safe Distance)
 
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"The Dylan Ratigan Show"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37560195/

Dylan Ratigan's Epic Rant On Political Corruption

http://youtu.be/eAdsdlq42nE
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 01:33 PM
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1. He is on special leave to write a book.if that is being kept at
safe distance.

He has the best understanding and ideas of anyone
on TV--Making change and solving our economic problems.
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Eddie Haskell Donating Member (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 01:44 PM
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2. He's talking about treason.
The money is being extracted and put into the new empire. An empire where labor is cheap, all white, and without rights.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 02:55 PM
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9. And I hope he does not forget about the extraction of military
power. Right now, we have a private military under construction that could actually dominate the world.

I know this sounds frightening and paranoid, but just think about it a bit.

And, to be sure you are really grounded, read some history and learn about paramilitary organizations and private armies in the history of the world. Try reading about our Revolutionary War for a really obvious instance in which the British used paid soldiers.

Talk to people from certain South American countries in which private military organizations played a role at one or another time in history. It can happen anywhere.

I am not going to name any specific individuals or organizations. Some of them are household names and you can figure them out yourselves. Some of them change names but maintain the same leadership.

The drones that we have developed do not require a lot of manpower or huge armies. They could easily be privatized. The reason that they aren't is probably that it would be difficult to find places to safely keep the equipment required to man and house them. Is that where Pakistan and Afghanistan and Northern India get their strategic value? I don't know. I am just letting my imagination flow, and none of this, of course is a reality. But all of it is based on the potential that our reality holds.

Am I offering a conspiracy theory? Most definitely yes.

And I will be the first to admit it.

My imaginings are harmless because I have no means to realize them. But think about it. Are there people in our society who can make such monstrous imaginings real?

I sadly have to say that there very well may be. That is why we must condemn compromises with certain interests that pose real dangers to our society. And the best way to fight these interests is to publicize their activities, the sources of their financial support and then beat them at the voting booth.
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Eddie Haskell Donating Member (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 06:04 PM
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25. Good point.
We're expendable.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 01:45 PM
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3. K&R
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pam4water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 01:48 PM
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4. What is the betting on pushed off MSNBC?
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 03:24 PM
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15. Well... I'm not a BETTING person, but...
My prediction is the move to Current TV will be directly proportional to the truth in that book.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 02:08 PM
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5. I support that he tells: "The fix is in!"
I'm not sure what parts of his thesis I'm on board with.:shrug: Democrats might be different but the ones in charge went along with this.

--imm
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 02:15 PM
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6. Still looks like a well planned rant to me
Something to boost his ratings and give him more exposure. I don't see anything spontaneous about this phone interview that was complete with well designed graphics and a website to visit.

Ratigan looks like he's trying to be a saner, more fact based version of Glenn Beck. I have no problem with what he said, but that "unexpected" explosion was so phony, uncomfortable to watch, and over-the-top.

I've seen Ratigan and a few others do similar things that generate energy on the Internet and improve ratings on MSNBC. Too many gimmicks. Where are the adults over there? (Besides Rachel)
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Eddie Haskell Donating Member (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 02:18 PM
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7. He was furious.
If that was an act, it was an Academy Award performance.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 02:29 PM
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8. I've seen him do stuff like this before
and it really has an orchestrated feel to it.

I don't have a problem with the content of his rant, but I don't like the whole temper tantrum routine. If that and the other rants I've seen are genuine, then he has an anger management problem, but I'm inclined to think it is more a ratings problem.

Did you ever see his ridiculous, condescending doll and puppet explanation of economic issues? It was corny, unprofessional showmanship. And he went on and on and on. That one was so bad that Jon Stewart made fun of it.

Hey, people on liberal sites are talking about him and that's what MSNBC and Ratigan want.
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BigD_95 Donating Member (728 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 03:01 PM
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10. I dont think it was orchestrated at all
He is one of the smartest guys out there on these issues and he cares about what is going on.

What sense does it make to orchestrated a rant to get more viewers then take leave and be off the show when the viewers tune in to see you???? seriously??

that would be ass backwards
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 03:18 PM
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14. Its more dramatic that way
and it has everyone talking. Then he does a phone interview with all those great graphics.

Hey, I could be wrong, but I've been around enough people who can put on extraordinary rants and suck people in. I concur that Ratigan is smart, but I've found him inauthentic for quite some time now and as such, it is hard to believe that this isn't theatrics.


I guess don't like that fact that it feels so scripted. I can't wait for Current TV to grow, so I can leave behind MSNBC for good (except for Rachel of course).
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 03:56 PM
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18. Just realized
that he's also promoting his upcoming book. Maybe it has nothing to do with ratings in the long run and more about book sales. Or maybe both. We'll see.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 03:04 PM
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11. Why don't you try focusing on his message?
Edited on Thu Aug-11-11 03:05 PM by JDPriestly
Is there something about it that you find unpleasant?

Setting aside his presentation, Ratigan's analysis is excellent.

Do you have any criticism of his analysis of our financial problems?

Because I pretty much agree with him 100%. Trade deficits and manipulation in the financial sector plus a bought government (both parties up and down the ballot) add up to a national deficit. The jobs and opportunities for our children have been sucked out of the country while we sit here and worry about the deficit that the wealthy who stole our jobs and futures from us have left for us to pay.

We are idiots if we fall for this.

Obama is a great guy, but he not an economist, and he has surrounded himself with scoundrels who give him self-interested advice on economic issues.

It is very sad. In a way, Obama is as much a victim as we are. Nevertheless, he should get some advisers who are not so close to Wall Street -- a chief of staff from Morgan Stanley????? Are you joking? What kind of fool would run as a Democrat and then appoint a chief of staff straight out of the ranks of Morgan Stanley? It is unthinkable.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 03:25 PM
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16. I don't have a problem with the message
and actually I listened to most of it again online, but that tantrum distracted too much from what he said. For someone who has been on TV for quite some time, I think the presentation was unprofessional and unnecessarily emotional.

Anyone who uses baby dolls to explain economic issues comes across as more of a showman than a financial commentator. I've seen some pretty goofy things on his show in the past, so his credibility for me is a bit strained.


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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 03:08 PM
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13. I disagree. I know many people who feel exactly as he does
and no one would have to 'orchestrate' them ranting when faced with the idiocy of those, as he was, who constantly hand out partisan platitudes to either defend or attack their 'team' when there is any discussion of it. He actually took the partisanship out of the discussion and said what needed to be said.

If his rant was orchestrated, it was a good one for a change. The usual media orchestration we see is certainly never to expose the facts about the situation we find ourselves in.

Who btw, do you think orchestrated his rant? I would think most of our media outlets would have discouraged such truth?
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 03:34 PM
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17. I'm not sure who might have orchestrated it,
but I would think it was mostly his doing (maybe a producer helped). This happens periodically on MSNBC and I find it predictable, unprofessional, theatrical, and a bit too FOX-like.

If Ratigan is truly outraged, maybe he should watch some old clips of Edward R. Murrow, who could express outrage with dignity and professionalism. Blowing up on a news program is not acceptable, and it brings to mind Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck.

Or better still, maybe he could watch Rachel who could have presented the same information in a compelling and thought-provoking way, minus the screaming.

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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 06:09 PM
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26. And it brings to mind Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck, and also their ratings.
Without the rant we wouldn't even be talking about it.

Exactly what Ratigan Wanted?
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 06:21 PM
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27. Perhaps
If that is the case, then I'll give him some credit. It would be easier to do if I didn't hear what sounded like a plug for his upcoming book.

If something positive comes from this, that will be a good thing, but I sure wish we could there without these antics.

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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 07:19 PM
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28. Sadly it's not always the message that sells, but the vehicle that delivered it. n/t
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 07:45 PM
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29. That is so true
Being I have bought into the delivery vehicle in the past, I'm a bit more cautious now.

When my kids were young, I'd explain to them that no matter how right they were, people wouldn't hear them if their words were delivered with loud rage and anger. All they'd hear would be the anger. It took a while, but eventually the lesson took (most of the time anyway).
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BigD_95 Donating Member (728 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 11:18 AM
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30. maybe some people other then u like his blow up
Did you ever think about that? I liked it. Its how I feel. Im glad he did it.

You keep mentioning Rachel. Well Im happy for her and Im happy people like her and her show. She does a lot to get the right message out there but I personally dont like her show. I rarely watch it. Sometimes I cane even watch her video clips. I completely support her because she is a progressive and is right on the issues. But she just doesnt work for me.

I watch the Last Word & Ed.

My point just because you didnt like the him blowing up doesnt mean other dont. Each to their own. At least we have several progressive people to pick from now.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 02:39 PM
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31. Obviously a lot of people did like his blow up
and that is fine. I was just expressing my reaction and I hardly expect everyone to agree with me, as I'm sure you don't expect everyone to agree with you. Clearly our tastes are different and that is healthy. Its republicans who insist on uniformity from its base.

As for progressive people, I'd say Ratigan has had his progressive moments, but overall I haven't seen him as a real progressive. Once again, just my own opinion.

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vanbean Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 04:50 PM
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21. Oh, I agree PatSeg. There is no content, just showmanship. Just like Jesus and the moneychangers.
:sarcasm:

Seriously, you should be screaming too. The fact that 99.99% of our leaders are bought off, and that they have to be bought off to keep their jobs, is infuriating. Consider that Ratigan has really been looking deep into the facts of the matter, and the deeper he goes, the more he knows about how greedy the few people profiting from selling us out, while lining their bottomless pockets really are, he becomes more and more angry.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 05:48 PM
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23. Its possible
and I'd really like to give him the benefit of the doubt. I've seen so many gimmicks on his show and others, that it is hard to think he's sincere in his outrage. We'll see.

I didn't say that there was "no content". I have no problem with the content, nor do I have a problem with anyone being justifiably angry. I just don't believe his explosive tantrum was real and I think he could have made his points without the theatrics.

This isn't the first time he's done something like this.

P.S. I DO scream, mostly at the TV, but I don't get paid to do it in front of a TV camera.
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 05:45 PM
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22. The phone call, I'll give you, but the original rant was genuine.
I thought it was great....and sincere.... and right on point..:bounce: :mad: :bounce:
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 05:51 PM
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24. And I'll concede to "right on point"
Still wrestling with how sincere he was though.

:shrug:
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 03:07 PM
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12. K&R for Ratigan's analysis. He is right on this.
I don't always agree with him, but his analysis of the deficit and the real economic problems we face is absolutely spot on.

And everyone, especially Obama, needs to listen to Ratigan's ideas on this.

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julian09 Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 04:07 PM
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19. He is looking for a larger audience than Msnbc
He hopes to do so with his book which he is finishing as we speak.
His rants are sometimes technical and hard to follow; especially when he is talking to
people in his depth. That is why the doll episode. Jon Stewart should talk about rants. He is always screaming and using silly props; being serious doesn't become him, he's a joke himself. Dylan does his own material, no writers, the man can think for himself.:nuke: :banghead:
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 04:21 PM
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20. Jon Stewart is a comedian
Ratigan isn't supposed to be in the same class as Stewart or Colbert, but some of his antics tend to resemble Beck. The doll episode was so insulting and gimmicky. That same week he did one with marionette puppets (not the one for kids that's on YouTube).
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domonkos Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 11:40 PM
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32. Gotta Out Screem The Fox Newstards
Good! Its about time a rational human being started yelling at the vocal levels of the idiots on FoxNews, its the only way to get heard. You gotta out scream those retards or your never going to get heard. YA KNOW WHAT I MEAN!!!
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