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rdubwiley Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 08:45 PM
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Tax Cuts for the Rich Don't Work
 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyM0QThxAlU
 
Posted on YouTube: August 10, 2011
By YouTube Member: rdubwiley
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Posted on DU: August 10, 2011
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My explanation of the problem with tax cuts, and the fact that they don't create enough revenue to pay for themselves.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 11:51 PM
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1. Interesting, but I could not clearly understand some of the speech.
Edited on Wed Aug-10-11 11:57 PM by JDPriestly
Did the speaker say that the person whose taxes were reduced would earn $100 per year, that the tax rate would be lowered from 20% to 15% and to make up for the loss in tax revenue, the person whose taxes were lowered would have to improve the GDP to 5 times its prior size?

That concept I understand, but I could not clearly hear the numbers and math showing you would have to improve the GDP by 5 times. There was a number that sounded like $100,075, but I couldn't hear it clearly.

Could someone explain -- clarify how he is doing the math on this?

The concept makes sense and is precisely what bothers me when people say that lowering taxes on the rich will help the economy, but I would like to be able to follow his math better.
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rdubwiley Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 11:48 AM
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2. explanation of my video
All right, let's say before that there's one person in an economy that earns $100 a year, to make the calculations easier
Now, let's also assume GDP is $100,000 per year.
Also, the tax rate on the person above is 30%, so current revenue gained from income taxes is $30.
Let's say someone comes along and states that we should change this person's tax rate to 15% because it will cause unprecedented growth, and they will pay for themselves.
Well, there is a well established trend in tax recipts, that around 20% of GDP goes to the government in taxes.
Therefore, how much would this person need to improve the economy to make the tax cut pay for themselves.

Well, that's a simple algebra problem.
(.20)X=15
X=75.
or in other words, GDP will need to improve to 100,075 to make the tax cut pay for itself, but this is somewhat ridiculous as the person would need to make his 15 dollars into 75 dollars of economic activity. To put this in perspective, even the most effective economic boosters only grant about $1.60 for every dollar spent. The problem with tax cuts for the rich is that they're not economically effective enough to be used.

I hope that clears it up.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 08:45 PM
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3. Ah! The original $100,000 per year for GDP did not register with m
That is why I wondered where the $100,075 came from. Thanks.

The extent to which the individual taxpayer would have to increase his own economic activity was easy to figure. I just did not hear how it fit into the GDP. Got it.

I want to be able to explain this to others.

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BackToThe60s Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 09:21 PM
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4. They work for the rich
And so does Congress. :(
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