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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 08:20 PM
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Lawrence O'Donnell Interviews Newest Member of Birther Club - Franklin Graham
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The ever growing birther club in this country got a new member yesterday, christian evangelist/missionary Franklin Graham. Graham not only questioned Obama's birthplace on ABC's This Week but also questioned his religion. Tonight Lawrence O'Donnell interviewed him on this.

This of course isn't the first time Graham has made obscene statements about Obama's religion. In August 2010 he told CNN's John King:


"I think the president's problem is that he was born a Muslim, his father was a Muslim. The seed of Islam is passed through the father like the seed of Judaism is passed through the mother. He was born a Muslim, his father gave him an Islamic name.

...

Now it's obvious that the president has renounced the prophet Mohammed, and he has renounced Islam, and he has accepted Jesus Christ. That's what he says he has done. I cannot say that he hasn't. So I just have to believe that the president is what he has said.


Yesterday he said the following:


As it relates to Muslim, there are many people that do wonder where really stands on that. Now, he has told me that he is a Christian. But the debate comes, what is a Christian?

For him, going to church means he's a Christian. For me, the definition of a Christian is whether we have given our life to Christ and are following him in faith, and we have trusted him as our Lord and Savior.

That's the definition of a Christian, it's not as to what church you're a member of. A membership doesn't make you a Christian.



It's odd that Graham would try to define what a Christian can and can not be. As Lawrence tries to point out Jesus said all kinds of things about rich people, including:


23 And Jesus looked round about, and saith unto his disciples, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! 24 And the disciples were astonished at his words. But Jesus answereth again, and saith unto them, Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God! 25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.


Graham is certainly a rich man by any standards. It was reported in 2009 that during the worst economic times since the great depression and during times when charity organizations were going bankrupt Graham collect a cool 1.2 million for the 2 charities he worked for in 2008.

But I guess we shouldn't listen to Jesus's words when trying to determine who is and isn't a christian, the much safer bet is listening to Franklin Graham. And why not, he clearly must know what he is talking about since he thinks the story that a 8 month pregnant American women decided to travel thousands of miles to Keyna to give birth is plausible.
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The Blue Flower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 08:32 PM
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1. beyond pathetic
what a total idiot
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MNBrewer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 08:37 PM
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2. Exactly, just like how being the son of a money grubbing fraudulent televangist
makes you a money grubbing fraudulent televangelist. Good that he understands from a personal perspective.

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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 08:45 PM
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4. His father, for all his Nixon-indulged racism and other faults..
is head and shoulders above his cretin progeny. I have detested the son ever since the memorial for Columbine, when he came in and essentially denounced those attending (including victim's families) who were not HIS BRAND of Christian. This upset one hell of a lot of people, since it was meant to be non-denominational, leaning towards secular.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 12:54 PM
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13. Ol' Franklin isn't like his father. Lawrence made Franklin look like the cheap Elmer Gantry he is.
Franklin used the Republicans' tactics of dodging questions they dare not answer -- pathetic. I have zero respect for him.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 08:43 PM
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3. I turned MSNBC off - after pat buchanan on Cenk and then O'Donnell
with Norquist and Graham I decided that I might just as well turn to Fox. If I want to watch rethugs I will watch that network.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 08:54 PM
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5. For me ...
That was a waste of time. Why did Lawrence O'Donnell even bother with him? All he did was spout out sentences he memorized from the bible. I could get more answers from a computer..than a tape machine. So he's never voted for a Democrat his entire life? Fine... it just shows where he stands in the political area, and the fact he's a Birther is no surprise. Maybe he thinks Donald Trump is pious, who cares?
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 09:09 PM
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6. I think in this case it matters becasue this guy is seen as somebody that is above politics,,,
atleast by much of the media. And he does have a lot of influance especially in religious circles. So pointing out what a fraud he is probably isn't a bad thing I think.
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Grassy Knoll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 09:39 PM
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7. Christ Coins...Get yer christ coins here.......


Making money off of a belief has been around for years,
and will always make its way into politics, and especially
for Nixon's Southern Strategy
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Hokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 10:00 PM
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8. Religion of the parents is not even on the long form
AC 360 had a segment on Trump and the Birthers tonight and showed that religion of the parents is not on the long form that was issued back in 1961. Franklin Graham is full of shit.
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ScottLand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 05:22 AM
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9. Why, no, Lawrence, I'm not going to give up my...stuff.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 01:46 PM
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10. My God, it was difficult to watch Graham preach in answer to
O'Donnell's questions. Sickening to listen to that ignorant, rascist, hypocritical, oily, so-called-Christian.
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intothefire Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 01:58 PM
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11. Who cares about birthers
why sre they even interviewed? think abt it ppl. would you spend your time talking to ppl who are deluded. It is only because msnbc and cnn choose to talk about these things, that we even talk about these useless creatures...
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 02:11 PM
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12. These 'deluded' people are not 'useless creatures' to right wing
politicians who use them to influence the ignoramouses who suck up this crap.
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bkerr3 Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 06:35 PM
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14. new funny birther parody video by "Loose Bruce" Kerr
...here's a new anti-birther, funny parody video to the tune of the West Side Story song, "I WASN'T BORN IN AMERICA": <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miiTsKBDP7M >

Enjoy!
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