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Weird Liberal Head Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 06:05 PM
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Apologies Over Libya, $1 Billion Re-Elections, and Epic Weirdness!
 
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Posted on YouTube: April 04, 2011
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Posted on DU: April 04, 2011
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Why do people hack me? Attack me? Hate me?
Because they fear me.
They know I'm telling the truth.

I report the news of the day, including violence in the Middle East, and launch into a tirade over Libya, talk about the hacking of the WeirdNewsChannel briefly, and discuss my merchandizing plans.
Please leave questions and comments. Inappropriate comments will be deleted. Also, please rate and subscribe. Thank you, loyal viewers!
All that and more, only on the Weird Liberal Head Show!

Note #1: If you have any idea who hacked/shut down the Weird News Channel, just contact me please. Thanks! (I'm not sure who did it, I have my suspicions, but rest assured that there is little/no chance anyone I mentioned in this video did this).
Note #2: I had no time for a "Con" or Palinism of the Day for today, so just make do with this if you want~ http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/04/04/avlon.obama.repea...

Sources:

Obama $1 Billion Reelection- http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/04/04/obama.announceme...

Japanese nuclear water- http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/04/us-japan-nucl...

Civil Wars in Libya and the Ivory Coast- http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/05/world/africa/05ivory....
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hmKv...
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Countdown_3_2_1 Donating Member (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 07:30 PM
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1. No apologies.
Edited on Mon Apr-04-11 07:42 PM by Countdown_3_2_1
Zip. Nada. None.

You either do something all the way or you don't.

Obama is pulling back BEFORE the job is done! The rebels are losing, and Libya is gonna slaughter them.

--Incidentally, the president pulled back on the same day he announced for reelection. The war is unpopular and the rebels are under the bus. The EU doesn't want to fight this war. How long do you think NATO will stay in without the US egging them on?

this was a political decision on the part of the president. The rebels are screwed without US backing.

I repeat my initial assertion. The US was foolish to start this in the first place. Now good people will die without the US to back them.

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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 11:12 PM
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2. Sounds like the Kurds in '92 eh?
They sorta like us now, a little bit, but you can bet they carry a grudge.

Better to let a people determine their own destiny. Otherwise, you own the outcome. If you want to own the outcome, you become a major player in a civil war, and you have to go ALL the way.
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 11:19 PM
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3. Tell me, how did getting involved in Vietnam's civil war work out for us?
How did it work out for the boat people?

You're using neocon justifications for wars of foreign adventurism. Good luck with that line of logic.
Also funny you'd use the civil war for justification. How would you have liked it if a major european power had sided with the south, and intervened? Would have sorta sucked, wouldn't it?

We do not own these countries. We do not dictate the terms of their own governments to them. It is not our place. At the MOST, the UN should have gotten involved. This is not a matter for NATO, or the US, leading a small portion of the NATO coalition.

It's warmongering, pure and simple.

I see the apologies are pouring in, how's that working out for you?
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 03:40 AM
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5. How would you have liked it if the French & Dutch had helped with the American Revolutionary War?
Oh, wait...
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 11:01 AM
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6. The French used us as a proxy against England.
Just a few years later, we ended up using French ships for target practice too. (American-French Quasi-war) Whoopsie.

The Dutch were cool and all, with the port of Texel Ranger/Serapis incident, but otherwise, they were just protecting their valuable customer in the slave trade.

Not a whole lot of altruism to be found here. Today's allegory would be our interest in Libyan oil, via Standard Oil/Shell and others currently holding producing wells on leases in Libya.
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howard112211 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 03:24 AM
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4. The biggest counterargument against specific interventions
Edited on Tue Apr-05-11 03:30 AM by howard112211
is often that they will accomplish nothing. Take Vietnam. Millions dead and the North still won. In warfare, one doesn't "at least try". An attempt that accomplishes nothing is way worse than not doing anything in the first place. Take Iraq. Was it worth it? Are the people better off today? Again, Nazi Germany was a different story, on many levels.

Kid, let's hold back final judgement on the success in Libya for, say, six months or a year. Let's see whether democracy is firmly in place then and it hasn't turned clusterfuck. I hope you will be able to recognize the later outcome, in the event that it occurs.
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