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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 12:49 PM
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Memory Hole: 'If Ballots Don't Work, Bullets Will'
 
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Posted on YouTube: January 09, 2011
By YouTube Member: FiredUpReady2GoAgain
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Posted on DU: January 09, 2011
By DU Member: Hissyspit
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Hey, corporate media false-equivalence apologists... This is not a person from the left and there are more incidents like this where this one came from.

FiredUpReady2GoAgain | January 08, 2011 | 1 likes, 1 dislikes

Florida radio host Joyce Kaufman, speaking at a Tea Party Rally in 2010 before the midterm election, telling her followers that if they don't get what they want by voting, then they should consider shooting people... Craziness.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 12:56 PM
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1. And the crowd cheers
at the "Founding Fathers gave me a Second Amendment. (should we lose the election)"
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:24 PM
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11. Star spangled losers
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 12:57 PM
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2. Whew!
She is a scary one, eh!
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Boudica the Lyoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 12:59 PM
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3. Thanks for posting this
It really bothered me the first time I saw it. I suppose Joyce Kaufman is really pleased with herself now, she got what she wanted after all.
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:00 PM
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4. The tea party incites volence should they not get what they want.
Edited on Sun Jan-09-11 01:07 PM by Dawson Leery
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 03:00 PM
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18. Isn't that called "terrorism"??? n/t


BOEHNER - McDUNCELL JOBS PLAN
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:02 PM
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5. I hope this contemptible hag gets her wish
and that everyone gets to see her hateful face and hear her horrible words on YouTube & other media...not that the useless corporate media would bother to show it, mind you.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:04 PM
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6. maybe the silver lining is ...these crazies will finally lose their stranglehold over the Righties
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:08 PM
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7. Forgot that one
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:09 PM
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8. An open letter to Joyce Kaufman
Dear Joyce,

How does it feel when you hear about the horrific shootings in Tucson yesterday? How does it feel to see that someone actually employed your idea of using bullets over ballots?

​I wonder if deep down you're mortified, because you should be. You should finally be getting a terrifying glimpse of how your your callous and ignorant words might actually affect South Florida and our nation.

I wonder how you feel when you hear about the death of nine-year-old Christina Taylor Green, who was killed in the shooting at the Safeway along with U.S. District Judge John Roll and four others. Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was shot in the head and survived, along with 11 others injured. Christina danced ballet and played little league. She had just been elected to her elementary school's student council and was invited by a neighbor to Giffords' political event yestereday to meet a real government leader. Instead she met a madman with a gun who decided that bullets were the answer.

Christina was born on September 11, 2001, Joyce, a day that shocked and horrified this nation and a day that you have been using to help spread your message of war and hate ever since.


More at http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/pulp/2011/01/christina_taylor_green_shooting.php
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neobeetle Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:16 PM
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9. What a traitor
:wtf:
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Lifelong Protester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:20 PM
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10. What a piece of excrement.
Hope she's happy now, with blood on her hands.

I HOPE everyone of these nut cases that called/calls for bullets when ballots don't work, are damned proud of themselves today.

I mourn the loss of all of those killed.
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 03:02 PM
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19. If she truly believes in what she's spouting here,
she's happy with the results.




GOP JOBS PLAN
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:32 PM
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12. she was the Chief of Staff of one of the new Teabaggers in Congress
Allen West, an Army Lt. Colonel who was court-martialed for torture in Iraq, which seemed to be his main appeal to the Teabaggers. I heard him on RW radio all the time, he was one of their heroes, along with Gabrielle Giffords' opponent Jesse Kelly.
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Courtesy Flush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 08:52 PM
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25. Here's a news story about her.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/conservative-radio-host-leaves-congress-job-after-threats-and-lockdown/

When conservative Florida radio host Joyce Kaufman went to a Tea Party rally on July 4, she got so fired-up that she was moved to make a fairly incendiary statement: “If ballots don’t work, bullets will.” Kaufman’s statement was caught on camera and shown on The Rachel Maddow Show—and ironically, it inspired people who don’t agree with her to threaten violence in response. As a result, Kaufman has announced that she will no longer be serving as Republican Rep.-elect Allen West’s Chief of Staff.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:41 PM
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13. lets hope this gets more exposure ..
and comes back to bite her where she sits!
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W T F Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:43 PM
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14. Tea Party movement = the American Al-qaeda
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Moostache Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:56 PM
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15. We need to stop calling them "carzy" and call them what they are...
CRIMINALS!

You cannot run into a crowded theater and scream "FIRE!!! WE"RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!"

Hiding behind "free speech" is such a bullshit tactic of the right that MUST END NOW.

Corporations ARE NOT persons.
Free Speech IS NOT universal for any utterance out of your mouth.
Dissent IS NOT treason.

When someone is inciting violence and espousing hatred, it is not acceptable.
Its time to stop pretending that their hands are not soaked in blood today....
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 03:04 PM
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20. NOT Criminals - TERRORISTS n/t
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Grinchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:41 PM
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16. Just look at the Authoritarian Body Language she uses.
One can tell a great deal about a person and the message they are trying to convey by the posture, hand signals, and tone of voice.

This is a person scolding Children to act a certain way or they will be punished. This posture strikes the subconcious fears of people that have been subjected to this type of treatment by their family throughout their lives. Where do you think the speaker on this video learned how to behave like this?

I regards to the message, it is overly simplistic and inflammatory. As I can assure you that voting with bullets is never a good thing. It's pretty clear that the message was conjured up with a minimum of thought regarding the consequences of a gun toting riotous mob.

However, defending oneself from fascists wielding and using guns is another story, and that's what the 2nd Amendment is all about. A gun is just another tool. It is more effective than a rock, slingshot, sword, axe, club, crossbow, howitzer, or any of a billion ways one can cause injury.

Personally, I think guns are quite cowardly given a target you can walk up to without it running into the forest.
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forty6 Donating Member (849 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:49 PM
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17. Recommended Now I know why videos like this scare the BEJESUS out of me!
Edited on Sun Jan-09-11 02:49 PM by forty6
So many people applauding her!!!

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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 03:12 PM
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21. This is the very type of right wing radical VIOLENCE MONGER that we need to be CONDEMNING !!
LOUD AND CLEAR ! These radical right wing nuts have ZERO understanding of the constitution and the intent of our founders. They are CRAZY fucking cement-headed paranoid gun nuts with brains the size
of peanuts, and we TOUGH PROGRESSIVES need to ORGANIZE for 2012 BIGTIME and put these scumbags out of the poltics business by POUNDING THE SHIT out of the them at the ballot box !
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Courtesy Flush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 03:20 PM
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22. What does she mean about ballots not working?
When the votes are counted, and the other side wins. That's still democracy. That's the very definition of ballots "working." If one party always won, democracy would be dead.

These people are the ones who hate America. If they can't have a tyrannical one-party system, they get violent.
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Chimichurri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 03:40 PM
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23. The Tea Baggers have big ones trying to back away from their own
rhetoric that they've been celebrating since the first Kock brother's rally.
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PBass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:47 PM
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24. Kicked, recommended (NT)
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 11:25 PM
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26. K&R(nt)
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 03:54 AM
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27. "Video Removed"
Like I said, "memory hole."
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RavensTown Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 03:35 PM
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28. There's no doubt the Right has been begging for something to happen
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 03:48 PM
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29. The video has been scrubbed.
Not surprised. Apparently their zest for bullets is waning?
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:07 PM
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30. She advocates fascism.
Period
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