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ilaughatrightwingers Donating Member (475 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-11 10:48 PM
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Why taxes are theft and what we can do
 
Run time: 10:46
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyu5e63g9UQ
 
Posted on YouTube: September 19, 2009
By YouTube Member: LaughingMan0X
Views on YouTube: 2810
 
Posted on DU: January 03, 2011
By DU Member: ilaughatrightwingers
Views on DU: 682
 
What do you think?
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-11 10:52 PM
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1. Another trust-fund-brat anarchist. Z-z-z-z. nt
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WhiteRhino Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 01:04 AM
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5. anarchist
anrachists are the most intellectual lazy people. leftists who don't want to commit themselves to learning what socialism is and thinking their one idea of abolishing taxes that bands them all together is going to fix all their problems. they look for an easy narrative just like right wing fox viewers!
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ilaughatrightwingers Donating Member (475 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 02:55 AM
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10. Sorry
But do you know anything about anarchism or are you just pulling assumptions out of your butt?

Anarchists are socialists ("socialism" = workers' control of the means of production NOT "the government takes over everything").
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 09:31 AM
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16. We've already been through this, and it doesn't work.
Edited on Tue Jan-04-11 09:31 AM by wtmusic
Government doesn't disappear when the "workers control the means of production" - the workers become "the government". And without some kind of bureaucracy to keep things in order the system is corrupted in very short order.

BTW, if that's you in the video I apologize for my earlier ad hominem. I don't know whether you have a trust fund set up for you, but I'm assuming it wasn't an anarchist who provided a nice house and a computer for you. :)
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-11 10:52 PM
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2. Taxes are the price we pay to live in a free society. They are also how the government
and the world works. How, exactly, do you think police, fire, the court system, roads, water systems, education, and every other government benefit you enjoy will work without a functioning government paid for by taxes?

If you don't want to pay taxes, go to a country that doesn't have them. Like Somalia. And see how long you last.
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ilaughatrightwingers Donating Member (475 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 02:56 AM
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11. He addresses your argument in the video
Watch it and then respond.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 08:01 AM
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14. He says "someone will volunteer to pay for all that stuff"
It's a right-wing and unrealistic position.

And you should realise that the boy in the video is so incredibly annoying to listen to that most people will give up long before the end. If you want to get these points across, then choose a messenger that doesn't make the listener want to punch their computer.
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Raoul Donating Member (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 05:43 AM
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12. OH?
You mean 'Amerika, love it or leave it' right? That's something I expected to see from a right winging fanatic and not someone who supposedly is an 'enlightened' Dem.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 10:05 AM
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17. What OP is proposing would be an end to "Amerika" -
not exactly what most enlightened Dems want on the agenda.

Society in Somalia may be closer to a true anarchy than anywhere on earth, so a visit for all budding anarchists might be instructive.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-11 11:02 PM
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3. Bet taxes paid for his education.
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 10:28 AM
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18. So he wasn't born full grown and all knowing from the head of Zeus like all the Supermen are?
Okay, just kidding with you.

But the Randian libertarians have no sense of irony or shame.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-11 11:12 PM
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4. I Managed to Get Through the First Ten Seconds
Will never know if it improved after that.
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 01:39 AM
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6. I thought I would kill myself so I didn't go that long.
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ilaughatrightwingers Donating Member (475 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 02:25 AM
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7. Did anyone actually watch the video?
Most of the comments here make me think not.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 02:34 AM
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8. I think you ought to...
quit posting RW libertarian crap here.
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ilaughatrightwingers Donating Member (475 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 02:43 AM
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9. Make that left-wing libertarian crap
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 07:49 AM
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13. Posting another couple of links doesn't stop the video being right wing crap
I don't see either of your links saying that all taxation is theft.
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 08:50 AM
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15. You only have to pay taxes if you use the government's money.
If that government is unnecessary, then get along without its money. And nobody will ask you to pay taxes.
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