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Grassy Knoll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 03:08 PM
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Bill Maher: Obama Looks Beaten Down
 
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This morning on CNN's GPS Fareed Zakaria.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 03:24 PM
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1. Maher's on target... as ( almost) always he is. n/t
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 12:04 PM
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39. HE LOOKS MORE LIKE HE'S BEEN BEATEN OFF.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 02:31 PM
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42. Smartest guy on TV
MSNBC has some brilliant people, but nobody tops Bill Maher. I don't get to see much of him because I don't have cable and would not be able to afford MSNBC and HBO if I did.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 03:33 PM
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2. Working link
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 03:43 PM
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3. Obama is playing the part he is supposed to play.
You want to see beaten down? Take a look at my neighborhood Bill, and the people in it.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 05:38 PM
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9. People aren't even putting
out Christmas lights this year. I have never seen it like this, NEVER.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 11:10 PM
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23. If he's not crazy.....
...and he's not stupid. Then all that remains is that what he's doing is intentional.

"Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth." ~Sherlock Holmes, The Sign of Four


K&R
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 01:28 AM
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26. I see people on a daily basis who seem to have the life force sucked right out of them...
Edited on Mon Dec-06-10 01:30 AM by Amerigo Vespucci
...and after being out and around them, or talking with them on the phone, or exchanging emails, I see that look in the mirror some days as well.

I don't think Obama looks beaten down at all. That's wishful thinking. A man who's beaten down is a man unable to come to terms with the fact that he's been unable to do what he's set out to do.

Obama, if he chose to, could be standing under a "Mission Accomplished" banner right now.

"Beaten down" my ass.
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Can of Whoop-ass Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 10:42 AM
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37. Who's "beaten down"?
"Beaten down" my ass. McConnell, Bachmann and Boner look worse.
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 04:26 PM
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4. Obama's looked that way to me since the last elections.
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 04:36 PM
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5. He calls it correctly, not just on the "beaten down" comment
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 04:56 PM
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6. Can I get an Amen?
Nothing that my like-minded friends and I haven't been saying for quite a while, but it's nice to see the viewpoint get wider exposure.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 09:31 PM
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21. Amen.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 05:13 PM
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7. Maher is as usual right on the money.....He sees it very clearly.
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 05:21 PM
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8. Maher is right
Obama lost it with the public option - it's been an uphill battle since then.
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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 12:13 PM
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40. That's when we first saw the "concede first, then try to negotiate" stategy ...
... that they are apparently still pursuing.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 06:03 PM
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WingDinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 06:04 PM
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11. Voting repug should be as hard as crossing a picket line. And it is up to us, to make it happen.
Why wait for them?????????????? If we acted, in ratio to our numbers, we would TROUNCE any contender, incumbent or rookie. We could put Reid, Pelosi, Or Obama as pres, or any other office, if we showed our numbers, and power. We are disenheartened by the dirty ugliness of politics, with repugs in opposition. We cringe at even declaring ourselves political. NOT COOL. It is so dirty and ugly, no decent person, but a POLITICIAN would take the job. Well, we are so disgusted, and let down, particularly with being told that we expected Jesus Christ. And we bought the huge expectations thingie. We SUCK. Otherwise, we would use our clearly superior numbers, to RULE. And soon we will, unless they use all their funky gerrymandering junk, and fascistic bent controls on those less endowed, to establish a spaceage poll tax.
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 07:22 PM
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12. Just a reminder: pragmatism implies a lack of ideology/belief. We were told that was a "good thing"
We need to stop wondering when this administration is going to "stand up for what they believe in" when not long ago people were being sold that lack of ideological beliefs were a good thing.

This is what happens when people stop applying common sense, via Occam's razor, and let denial run loose with all sorts of assumptions regarding n-dimensional chess and what not... when all the moves so far have been resembling Parcheesi.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 07:35 PM
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13. K&R
Watched Maher even if I had to sit through Zakaria.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 09:45 AM
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35. Zakahria seems to be...
the only one who asks the right questions at the right time. The other so called media like to talk up a crisis then once it gets out of hand or we are in dire straits then they talk about the real facts.

Some of them won't get it until they get a foot up their asses!!!Now they are becoming afraid..
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 07:37 PM
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14. President Obama is doing what he believes in and truly supports.

Some progressives/liberals hope "the real" President Obama will stand up and fight for what he believe in.

He is.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 07:50 PM
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15. He obviously has a plan
Being POTUS is not a matter of flying by the seat of one's pants. He has access to information we do not, and he is tasked with more responsibility than we will ever know.
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 07:54 PM
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16. Denial is usually the first stage of coping...
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 08:09 PM
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18. "He has access to information we do not"
I seem to remember that being said a while back.

...

...........

Oh yeah... it was during the vote to INVADE IRAQ. :nuke:
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 12:09 AM
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25. Doesn't make it a GOOD plan though
hell the cylons had a plan...



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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 08:04 PM
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17. He must have a secret plan again...
Can't wait to see the outfit:



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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 08:26 PM
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19. I agree with Maher
Obama does look beaten down, probably because he has allowed himself to be beaten down. He has the visage of one who has lost, not someone who is 'fired up and ready to go'. Defeatism never won the day, and it never will.
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Mosaic Donating Member (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 08:29 PM
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20. Maher
Doesn't think very highly of black people, as he said he thought Obama would be like a gangster by now, not a "wimp".
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 11:16 PM
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24. I think that you are incorrect in your interpretation.....
Bill Maher said, "after two years in, as a comedian, I thought I'd be making jokes about what a gansta he was, and not that he's President Wayne Brady."

- There's a difference.......
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Swampguana Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:37 PM
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22. the full interview is better but this is still good
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 01:33 AM
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27. Bill is right
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bulloney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 06:44 AM
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28. We turn to comedians like Maher, Stewart and Colbert to get the pulse of the nation.
That speaks volumes on the sad state of our "news" organizations whose people are basically corporate stooges.
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spicegal Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 07:43 AM
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29. I totally agree with Maher. Sadly, most Americans don't pay
that close attention to what's going on. Republicans know it. They also know that if they stay on message and repeat their lies often enough people believe them. What gets me is that the Democrats never seem to learn, or they choose not to learn. Issues may change, but the GOP play book does not. Why is it so difficult for the Dems to counter a predictable strategy???
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A wise Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 08:29 AM
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30. Right Bill.....
Look...i'm African American...All i want Obama to do is call the rethugs out for who and what they are.....SLIME,GANGSTERS,THIEVES,LIARS,CHEATS,BIGGOTS,HATE MONGERS,KKK CLOSETERS,GREEDY,ASSHOLES,CIVIL WAR REJECTS....UNAMERICAN SHITHEADS. NUFF SAID!!!!!!!
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 08:37 AM
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31. Maher handled this interview the way I wish Democrats would
When the moderator said something about moving to right is where the country is Bill immediately responded by disagreeing and explaining his point
Too many Democrats in D.C. apply this wishy-washy idiocy of trying to play both sides.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 08:41 AM
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32. +1000. Maher was so perfectly right on that it is amazing...and the Dems SHOULD have been saying
Edited on Mon Dec-06-10 08:43 AM by BrklynLiberal
exactly what he said!!!!!!!!! His description of his disappointment really hit home with me.
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MindandSoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 10:11 AM
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36. Maher was absolutely correct! He is really getting to be a "no non-sense" guy!
I wish President Obama had seen this. . .it might have inspired him!
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dotymed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 08:54 AM
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33. Even though the link no longer works,
I have observed every president age quickly while in office.
That being said, it would, at least IMO, be worth it, if President Obama was fighting for the majority of Americans. Instead, I see most of his energy being used to placate a party that has (as stated), the defeat of President Obama as its #1 goal.
Again, IMO, that is insanity.
IF President Obama does want (and I doubt it) a second term, then he should use his energy demanding justice (and good jobs, benefits, etc...) for the majority instead of (supposedly) caving in to the interests of the wealthy.
America is the only country that allows "for profit" health insurers. We are ranked #38 in overall health care.
The distribution of wealth is the most unfair in the world....there are so many constructive ways that he could prematurely age and help this country at the same time.
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 09:05 AM
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34. There is a working link in Post #2
You can also watch it on YouTube - if you click on the non-working link, it shows you a link to the YouTube one.

K & R!
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BREMPRO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 11:27 AM
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38. Maher's analysis is very astute- and I agree that the core problem with Obama
Edited on Mon Dec-06-10 11:54 AM by BREMPRO
appears to be by his words and public statements he truly believe in things like the public option and no tax cuts for the wealthy, BUT he and his advisers are very poor negotiators and too easily give in on their principles to find "common ground" with the Republicans. They are just not as good as the republicans on utilizing the media, press conferences, polling,surrogates, rhetoric, and the distracted,mostly ignorant public to shore up and hold their position. I didn't used to believe this. I thought on the public option- OK even though this is overwhelmingly supported by the American people is just not possible now given the political climate and lets get what we can now and revisit this later. After this latest "negotiation" and cave on taxes for the wealthy, I think there is a fundamental flaw in Obama's character and approach.

Props and honor to the Dems in congress, like Franken, Weiner, Sanders, Pelosi, Reid who really stood up for principle on this issue. I'm disappointed with Obama's embrace of collegial comity, putting his pledge to work across the aisle and "bipartisanship" over clear moral principle and working for the American people.
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 12:32 PM
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41. "Poor negotiators"? They don't have a fuckin clue.
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