This is what the Maoist guy looks like. My comments will appear in red. 1. "No one causes famines on purpose" and thus Mao couldn't have caused deaths deliberately "
because doing so would make Mao look bad."
2. "So-called research" has "ridiculously wild numbers" because their estimates vary so widely
3. If they say "Mao caused the famine" how come they don't also say that other leaders (like the British in "Benegal" (sic) or the Irish Potato Famine) caused famines that happened under their leadership? No, those are accidents.
4. The British insisted on have potatoes exported from Ireland to England during the Blight b/c they had money (capital) and 125 million died in India b/c of capitalist development; the "greatest murder of all time"
5. Nicholas Kristoff is a big promoter of the lie that Mao caused starvation during the Cultural Revolution. But he can't be right because his book claims that it was capitalism that brought equality to women in China. But that's not an outright lie. It was the Cultural Revolution that brought equality.
6. Women got their equal rights under Mao (right to divorce, property rights, child custody etc). It wasn't the sweatshops & market forces that deserve credit.
7. Thus Kristoff is a proven liar.
8. "Let's look at context, which supporters of stateless capitalism ALWAYS ignore."
9. The changes brought by Mao were "absolutely necessary". There was one TINY famine under Mao. But they were very common in China before. They haven't happened since then & the Great Leap Forward.
10. There WERE capitalist factions under the commies in Mao's time (Deng Xiaoping & Liu (?) somebody) conflicting with Mao and Lin Bao(?). There was huge turmoil between Maoists & Rightists. Both supported collectivization in order to increase crop production and to educate the peasants (so it's not like there were Kulaks like in USSR going around burning crops).
11. Organizing the collective farms was done by the "Right wingers" in the Commie Party, so if the collectivization that Mao ordered caused starvation, it's not Mao's fault.
"Be an Eatie, not a Starvie: Come and join the Commie Party!" -- Buh Kie Dood12. What ACTUALLY caused the starvation. Some people lied about production ("individualist action"). "Huge huge weather concerns" contributed. There was a split, leading to factions fighting w/in China, which "as a result of this, Mao was blamed even when he was out of the government.
13. At this time "he was still the Chairman of hte communist party, but he wasn't even running the country"
14. Before he was kicked out, Mao got Lin Bao(?) set up as leader of the PLA, "which would come to serve him later".
15. From 1962-66, Liu was running the gov't. Taht's when Mao led the people to criticize the gov't ("Bombard the Headquarters campaign and whatnot") under Liu Xiao Kwi(?) and "the people got together with the army and they kicked out the rightwingers"
16. When we look at the population charts, we may see 15 milion dead in 1960-1961.
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17. The "Maoist International(?) warns that if we had no other data, that might be a good conclusion, BUT since the Deng Xiaoping regime gave us this birth & death rate data, we have to ask if maybe there just weren't enough births to keep up with the deaths"
Bucky asks, "Because thinking about Deng (or "Ding" as the vlogger calls him) causes a sperm count drop off?" 18. Both the Communist and "Boozhwar" medias agree that the Great Leap "caused such a political tumult and political dedication (sic) that we have every reason to believe that birth rates declined." Deng/Ding's data shows only in 1960 was there was loss of pop by deaths exceeding births. But this was only a 3 million drop, not 15 or 30 or 70 million like others came up.
19. More blah blah about data
20. Internal migration could also have an impact on the numbers.
I'm not sure of the vlogger's point here. Doctrinaire people give me headaches. But Chinese officials may have drawn bad population inferences misled by internal movements & emigration.
21. Liu acknowledges about 30% of deaths were from natural disasters (not from starving)
22. No context or explanation is given by those saying Mao causes the famine about how those deaths "supposedly came about". It's mostly just twisting the statistics to prove what they want, which is part of the history of capitalism.
23. "I would just like to say these books are just outright lie"
24. There was also a flying leap forward 1968-71 from a completely Maoist line. This went off without a hitch. "I have tons of data to back up my points". "This is the real deal" and Mao's critic (Kristoff?) only cites one Guardian article like a cultist.