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HarveyDarkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 11:40 AM
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American Atheists' David Silverman on Fox & Friends
 
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 11:48 AM
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1. Damn, I wish he had made his points a bit better.
The host really allowed him the opportunity to speak at length, and he flubbed his points a few times. Overall, good interview.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 01:55 PM
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3. A surprisingly respectful interview.
Breaking News: Fox reports news.
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localroger Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 04:46 PM
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8. He was probably too surprised
...at not being cut off and run over like a freight train. That was a remarkable bit of work for Fox, the poor host is probably going to be reprimanded for not being nasty enough.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 12:50 PM
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2. Mythology
Mythology is powerful! Why is pointing out that the whole Nativity is a myth (which it obviously is.... I mean Oedipus is more believable!) why is that offensive? Does it diminish the power of whatever message that might be contained therein?
How is it offensive? Isn't their faith powerful enough to overcome a billboard by an atheist? Does it raise doubts in the faithful? (see my tag line)

Christians just LOVE to be offended. They can't wait! They get to play put upon Christian martyr!

The whole world will NEVER be Christian. Nor will it be Muslim. (or one anything, for that matter). The sooner these salvation/conversion religions realize this, the happier everyone will be!
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TACFIRE Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 02:51 PM
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4. Geeez
Insulting people's beliefs is not a great way to reach them...
It puts them on defense!

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HarveyDarkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 03:32 PM
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5. How did it "insult" the beliefs of anyone?
Except those whose beliefs are predicated on persecution.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 04:21 PM
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7. Insulting people's beliefs
How is pointing out the truth insulting beliefs? Why does such nonsense that virgins give birth and shepherds watch their flocks in winter at night get a free pass? If I believe a giant spaghetti monster has touched me with his noodly appendage, and I am insulted when some Christian, who doesn't even know N Korea is not our ally, tells me I WILL be tormented FOR ALL ETERNITY, is my outrage going to be made legitimate? Why is this a one way street?

Not all beliefs should be given equal gravitas. If it's a myth, it's a myth.
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 05:16 PM
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9. what insults me is when they say (after I have informed them of my non-belief)
during a session of proselytizing, "I'll pray for you" like I'm some sort of horrid person and needs to be shown the light.
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MNBrewer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 06:34 PM
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11. Exactly!!
:beer:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 04:13 PM
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 06:11 PM
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10. What it really comes down to..
Is that the United States is not a Christian Nation, that this country is a melting pot, that allows ALL FAITHS and Non faith organizations to exist here.
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 07:03 PM
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12. Those people are not true christians
They are nut cases. mean spirited people.
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 09:39 AM
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14. Not true chistians, huh?
How does one tell a "true" christian from the rest?
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MNBrewer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 06:46 PM
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15. maybe one that follows that the Jesus person is supposed to have actually said
rather than not following what the Jesus person is supposed to have actually said.
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:02 PM
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16. And therein lies the problem.
EVERYONE (who believes) thinks they are doing just that.


How do the rest of us know who is getting it right? Or could they ALL be wrong?
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MNBrewer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 11:20 AM
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17. We would have to use our judgment
and compare their acts vs. what the Jesus person is supposed to have said.

Congruence vs. incongruence.

Reason, logic.

For example: Jesus is supposed to have said the words contained in Matthew chapter 6 - "When you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, who love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on street corners so that others may see them. Amen, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you pray, go to your inner room, close the door, and pray to your Father in secret."

If the Christian in question makes a point of praying in public (e.g., prayer breakfasts, school prayer, etc.) they cannot be said to be behaving in the manner Jesus said they should. It is diametrically opposed to what a "true Christian" should be doing with regards to prayer.
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 07:53 PM
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13. I think he did great
he stuttered a little bit, but his points were clear.
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