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wundermaus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 12:17 AM
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"Don't F*** With Our Activists" - Mobilizing Against FBI Rai
 
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 12:23 AM
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1. K&R for those people who have experienced what seems to be a big violation
of their rights. Keep us posted as to what is the progress of this event that will take place in a few weeks in Chicago.
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molly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 05:19 PM
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21. Wonder why they are having to go to Chicago to
appear before a grand jury?
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 10:33 PM
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30. FBI Propagandist were here last night?
There was one or two posters clearly intent on arguing down and obscuring the facts in this case. Our tax money work: beat them Hippies down then go on Progressive sites and ply the propaganda.
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wundermaus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 12:39 AM
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2. Guns drawn, FBI raids peace activist's apartment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VihZt58Il-Y

As part of a sting against anti-war activists suspected of connections to terrorism, on September 24 the FBI raided six homes in Minneapolis-St. Paul and elsewhere in the country. At the Hard Times Cafe in the Cedar-Riverside neighborhood, we interviewed peace activist Mick Kelly while the FBI searched his apartment above the cafe.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 02:54 PM
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12. I'm having trouble hearing this video. Do you know
where I could go read about the mobilization against these raids? TIA and thanks for posting.
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Scruffy1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 04:02 PM
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14. Interview with Mick Kelly
Can be found on www.indymedia.org
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 04:05 PM
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15. Thank you. n/t
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teknomanzer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 12:48 AM
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3. Oh nice... More hope and change.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 12:52 AM
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4. man, those people are scary. some of them look like they could pistol-whip you with their canes.
the scary terrorist-lovers.
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Citizen Worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 03:07 AM
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5. George Orwell is laughing now saying we were warned in 1948.
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Mnpaul Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 08:35 PM
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25. Fahrenheit 451
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 11:56 PM
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33. Sadly ... for some, 1984 just came and went ... no difference to them!!
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 03:17 AM
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6. K & R. n/t
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mntleo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 07:51 AM
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7. This keeps happening over and over ...
...I am not sure WHY peace activists are targeted this way. While we decry some of the activities of our government, which is our right, we are into PEACE and we are into speaking our position PEACEFULLY. What is SO scary to our government about that?

I was part of the Sanctuary Movement in the 1980s. I stood with CHURCH PEOPLE, I walked hand in hand with all walks of life, with everyone from archbishops (Hunthausen who refused to pay his taxes because he said he did not believe his taxes should go for killing innocent people), Nicaraguans, ministers, teachers, engineers, Rabbies, Imams with church people fer Gawd's sake! Yet these people were accused of treason, acquitted yes, but trashed in the Press, maligned by our government, and no one of us so much as had a gun in our homes or advocated in any way anything but peace.

If you read a book published at the time called, Religion in the Secular City by Professor Harvey Cox from the Harvard School of Divinity, you will find that while discussing (OMG Da. Da. Daaaaaaaah!) Liberation Theology you will find that Jerry Falwell used the Liberation Theology method in his organization of his vast church empire, along with El Salvadorian peasants. As a matter of fact most mega-churches use the same method today.

But there is a great difference in how Falwell applied it vs the people in S America. It was a money making scheme with the Falwell crowd, while in S America it was about empowering the powerless.

And our government thought it was fine for Falwell to use this model to lie to congregations about the scriptures and what it meant as long as it was making huge amounts of money. But if this method gained a smidgen of power to the powerless who used this model to make it better for all instead of being horribly exploited by the rich, our government said, "Oh, let's call those people communists, go down there and kill babies, rape nuns and drop them from airplanes at 3000 feet, kill entire villages, assassinate archbishops who have the audacity to speak out about the injustices and support such a method (Romero), murder priests in their beds, kill Americans who witness what we are doing, and cause whatever mayhem we can because well, "those people' are communists, while Falwell is not. Falwell who was just as finger pointing to the churches standing up against this travesty in S America while using these methods himself.

the point here is that the government seems pretty hypocritical when it comes to protecting the rich and advocating violence. and then gets all scared of peaceful, god fearing people who actually listen to the teachings of their religion and speak out.

What is wrong with this picture and why are peaceful people who wouldn't hurt a fly, not even the ones who are trying to hurt them, why are they so scary to powerful people? I have never figured that part out. I have figured out that you can hold a gun to anyone's head and make them do anything but you may never convince them that it is right, while love seems to be the way to change a heart and once convinced it is right, no gun will stop them.

My 2 cents

Cat in Seattle
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 04:12 PM
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16. Reading your post, I couldn't help but think about what happened to ACORN.
They were tried and convicted by the corporate media with the Congress; ripping up the Constitution in punishing them.

ACORN's true crime was in working to empower minorities and the poor via promoting democracy and community activism, I believe this came to be viewed as threat to the mega-wealthy, corporate supremacists and racists.

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Scruffy1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 04:24 PM
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17. I think you are seeing the reality of the role of government
Governments are always about protecting what is and the money interests. I live in an old Catholic immigrant community and have seen priests stand up to ICE authorities many times and even physically block entrance to the sanctuary. They could do this because no one in power wanted to destroy the illusions of power by receiving a lot of publicity. They also had large numbers behind them in their congregations.
The illusion is not the reality. The power of the government is always used to suppress dissent of those who lack money power but not the wealthy. The Murdochs and Kochs have no fear of reprisal.
I suspect these raids are advance tactic to stop protests during the possible DNC convention in 2012.
The last things the Democrats want is thousands of protesters on the streets and the way to do this is to stop the people with organizational ability like Mick. Knowing Mick, the only way you can stop him is to kill him or incarcerate him.
It is important to for a mass resistance to this intimidation to develop now.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 04:41 PM
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19. Can't have the Good people mobilizing against the Bad people.
The Bad people might lose all their money and power.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 12:01 AM
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35. Think back on the huge threat that Martin Luther King, Jr. was to the establishment.....
PLUS now there is a further incentive for the FBI in labeling anti-war activists

as "terrorists" ----- Homeland Security money!!

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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 10:38 AM
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8. What is happening in this country? Is this the
"Professional Left" Biden and Obama are suggesting should get out there and campaign to re-elect Dems in Nov.

That this is happening under Obama's administration scares the shit out of me. Just who the hell am I supporting here?
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FluxRostrum Donating Member (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 11:09 AM
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9. the system
that's what your supporting .. doesn't matter Dem or Repub .. it's the system that fucks US A
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 12:00 AM
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34. This burst out into the open in '63 with the coup on our "people's" government ....
MSM has never acknowledged our 50 years of right wing political violence --

but there are still people sitting in front of their TVs waiting to hear

the truth of it all --


"The myth of a free press died with the assassination of President John F. Kennedy"


And, yes, sadly this is now Obama's FBI --



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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 11:58 AM
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10. I am appalled. This administration is going backwards. Shocking, these raids
Edited on Sat Sep-25-10 12:00 PM by avaistheone1
are right out of the Nixon admin playbook.

Thanks, Obama.

:puke: :puke: :puke:

:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 02:44 AM
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44. K&R
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 02:42 PM
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11. KIck
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 03:53 PM
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13. so much hope and change from this admin i cant hardly stand it.
Edited on Sat Sep-25-10 03:53 PM by KG
:eyes:
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 04:33 PM
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18. To KG +1
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 10:39 PM
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31. To KG -2
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 12:32 AM
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46. So the Emperor can do no wrong? What happened to all that change we were promised?
Bringing us back into the world as leaders and law abiding global citizens?
I have yet to see that along with hiring the sme crooks that fixed the economy from wall street to help continue the embezzlement of our nations treasure.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 04:52 PM
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20. This is what happens when you let these fuckers enact a patriot act and refuse...
to PROSECUTE THE FUCKING WAR CRIMINALS!
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 09:23 PM
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28. yep. sad! The Military Ind. complex strangles us a lil more...
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 12:03 AM
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36. Exactly .... too bad Democrats weren't interested in justice -- just "moving on" -- !!
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elzenmahn Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 12:16 AM
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38. Agreed, and I would take this even further...
I guess the truth that's being hidden by Obama and Co. re: Bushiebaby is far worse than anyone thought.

BHO's continuing refusal to allow an investigation rather than a continuance of the cover-up only confirms this suspicion in my mind.

The rot goes all the way to the core. WTF do we do now?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 12:29 AM
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39. "WTF do we do now?" .....
Great question --

The longer we wait the fewer the options we have, IMO --

I'd just pretty much decided to look at the next election as simply

voting AGAINST the Republicans -- not for Democrats.

Put so many Dems in that there could be no excuses anymore --

Move a lot more Republicans out -- they've gotten steadily more psychopathic --

Give us only one party to fight --

but -- I don't really know -- seems safer than having Repugs around -- ????


There are rarely questions here about what to actually do -- limited discussions.

We have to feel confident that we are all understanding this in the same way --

As Vaclav Havel said, we always have the "power of the powerless."

I'm in favor of united actions -- using corporate tools against them -- not using

credit cards -- things like that. Turning off lights for an hour at night.

Pulling our cars over for 10 or 15 minutes -- at a set time. Many ways to show

our unity -- as soon as we find it!! Are we united yet in understanding this fascism

that has crossed our threshold in America?

Or are we -- as Jim Garrison so ably stated it -- still "Hamlet" wandering and wondering?


Stay tuned...???



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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 05:41 PM
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22. OK so what in the world had they done to authorize the
government to be able to get a search warrant. Here we have Palin, Beck, Bachmann, Rush, and the fox crew urging violence against people and the FBI and the secret service sit on their ass and let it happen. But these people's only crime was to protest war and want peace. SO should we all start yelling and screaming and wanting every one to be killed wanting to turn on gas lines so people will be killed,then maybe we will be over looked also. We never did find the culprits that turned that gas on and wanted to blow up a congress man's house. I suppose the FBI doesn't have time to go after real criminals.
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felix_numinous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 06:32 PM
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23. OK War is Peace, Peace is Terrorism?
Teabaggers can hate and threaten to kill people in the open and they get promoted.

Peace activists and environmentalists are being listed as terrorists.

Whoever is behind this insanity are a threat to our national security, not the other way around.


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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 08:23 PM
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24. Kr Heartening to see young folks standing up to tyranny and predatory government. nt
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HongPong Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 08:42 PM
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26. Please see TC Indymedia for more
More info - I put together a video of the press conference. TC Indymedia is the main release for info about this situation. Protest scheduled at 4:30PM at FBI headquarters. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrXZSfLUl9M&feature=play...

TC Indymedia - The social justice community in Minneapolis continued to respond Friday afternoon to the raids of several of its members homes, which started before 7am this morning. Since then, a dozen activists have been served with grand jury subpoenas, including many in Minneapolis, according to Fight Back News.


More: http://tc.indymedia.org/2010/sep/updated-info-least-fou... -
http://tc.indymedia.org/2010/sep/breaking-news-least-fo...

It is believed the federal grand jury is centered in Chicago, and is investigating alleged ties to "foreign terrorist organizations"--a charge which activists have immediately dismissed as illegitimate and unjustified.
The Star Tribune reported earlier today that according to an FBI spokesperson, a total of six homes were raided in Minneapolis and two in Chicago. This statement is unconfirmed by activists, who have identified at least four of the homes in Minneapolis--one above Hard Times Cafe in Cedar-Riverside, one north of Powderhorn Park, one on Park Avenue near Lake Street and one in Stevens Square. Antiwar leaders have said that other members of the Freedom Road Socialist Organization were targeted with raids, surveillance and subpoenas in Michigan, North Carolina and potentially California.
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elzenmahn Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 12:32 AM
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40. If anybody knows of a legal defense fund for those affected by this...
...please post it here.

And K&R the daylights out of it - people need to see it and contribute to it.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 09:17 PM
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27. that was worth every minute
i'll go rate it up on youtube and post to my facebook page.
i am so pissed.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 10:08 PM
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29. K&R. The FBI has now clearly shown itself...
Edited on Sat Sep-25-10 10:13 PM by Mr_Jefferson_24
...to be much more an instrument of the crooked elitist PTB who run this country than the honest federal investigative agency, presumably serving our citizenry, it is supposed to be.

We should circulate a well written letter/petition stating that we no longer recognize the FBI's legitimacy since they obviously do not work for us, get a few hundred thousand signatures, and send it to them in the form of an open full page ad in as many major newspapers as we can afford.

These raids are about intimidation, nothing else. What a bunch of jack-boot thugs.



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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 12:07 AM
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37. FBI has shown itself again -- as it has always been ....
Edited on Sun Sep-26-10 12:07 AM by defendandprotect
but now a further lure for labeling anti-war activists as "terrorists"

is Homeland Security $$$ --
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 12:54 AM
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42. True.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 10:57 PM
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32. So how are the investigations against Blackwater and all their sub-businesses coming along?
Now, could they be called terrorists? They certainly are to the people of Iraq.

We are being shown that there are several branches of government. The Executive is one of them. The Military is another? The FBI is another? I don't remember it working that way? Are they allowed to act independently of the President? Did Obama know about this? Does he get a daily report on actions against citizens? How does it all work? Doesn't anyone oversee the FBI?

I really don't know and I feel that I am going to get educated here, because I'm curious about why this happened and who approved it.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 01:15 AM
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43. + 1 --
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 12:39 AM
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41. K & R nt
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Drops_not_Dope Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 03:08 PM
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45. Another Voice against this OUTRAGE!
:kick:
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wundermaus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 03:59 PM
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47. Fascism...
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