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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:29 PM
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Jane Hamsher & Glenn Greenwald Discuss Fallout From Gibbs' "Professional Left" Comments
Edited on Wed Aug-11-10 08:30 PM by spiritual_gunfighter
 
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:30 PM
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1. What were they debating?
Jane: I think Obama is just like Bush.

Glenn: I strongly disagree. He's just like Cheney.
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:35 PM
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2. Try actually watching the clip
before you pout about how much you hate it.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:41 PM
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4. Not very much even remotely like that.
Are you trying to win somebody over to your point of view with mindless reactionary stuff?

Gleenwald mentioned, in passing, continuation of Bush civil right policies into the Obama administration (which has happened). I know that because I actually watched the video.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 09:37 PM
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10. ! You nailed it!
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Chisox08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 10:25 PM
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26. Did you actually watch the vid or are just talking out of you ass
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 10:16 AM
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46. No he didn't.
He prefers to talk out of ignorance.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 10:47 PM
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32. Um... no.
He didn't.
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 09:41 PM
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11. have to agree...
with Hissy, since I too actually watched the clip. Didn't hear or see anything like what you posted. Maybe you shouldn't be so quick to be the first post, just so you can push a tired talking point.
K&R thanks SG for posting this.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 10:35 PM
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29. So how does it work?
Do you use implants to impair your vision, or the old-fashioned blinders?

:shrug:


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ShamelessHussy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 01:25 AM
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40. they weren't 'debating' they were commenting on the audacity of attacking your supporters
but you illustrate their point, TPTB just don't get it.

I think an excellent point made on the program is why all this fire directed at your base and not the reTHUGs?

excellent question.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:38 PM
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3. i have no idea who the anchor is...he seems like a wanker
agreed with both Hamsher and Greenwald
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:47 PM
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5. Dylan Ratigan. He came from CNBC when he got disgusted at the bias
toward Wall Street and the banks. He's not always right, but he's a bright guy, and his heart is in the right place. And both Jane and Glenn are correct, so it makes perfect sense that he would agree with them, as far as what they discussed. If you don't agree with them, it would probably be more useful for readers of this board to see some counter-argument instead of just ill-informed name-calling. Your post essentially translates as "I don't know what I'm talking about, but you should accept my denigration."
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 09:11 PM
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6. Gotta love these two
give it up for Glenn and Jane!!!!!!
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 09:36 PM
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9. Why? They have terrible judgment and for the most part they
spend most of their time in various self promotion schemes. Not a whole lot to love
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 10:38 PM
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30. Of course you'd say that!
You're in love with Bobby Gibbs! :eyes:

Bobby and NJ sittin' in a tree......
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Ramulux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 01:13 AM
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39. Explain please
Baseless accusations mean nothing here.
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ShamelessHussy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 01:27 AM
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41. they raise excellent points, thats what i appreciate
FYI: they are commentators so it is part of their job to promote awareness of what they do, thats how they make a living.
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fogonthelake Donating Member (198 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 11:33 PM
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36. Here is a big High Five.
:thumbsup: :hi:
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TheEuclideanOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 09:18 PM
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7. Great discussion
All 3 of them have such an intelligent way of expressing their thoughts.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 09:35 PM
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8. Ironically these are exactly the irresponsible reality challenged mock journalist
Edited on Wed Aug-11-10 09:46 PM by NJmaverick
Gibbs was referring to. I didn't watch them babble away but I am sure they took the criticism just as well as they hand it out.
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 09:44 PM
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12. maybe you should have "want them babble away"
Edited on Wed Aug-11-10 09:49 PM by unapatriciated
then you could have posted something that was relevant instead of babbling a tired talking point.


edited to add: in your zeal to respond you didn't watch ("want') the video nor proof read your post.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 09:47 PM
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14. lol, please it's painful to listen to those two rant
their over inflated sense of self imporantance hurts my ears
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 09:54 PM
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16. then why do you feel the need to post.
Edited on Wed Aug-11-10 09:56 PM by unapatriciated
is it just to push your "inflated sense of self imporantance" whatever the hell that is on those of us who actually watched the clip?
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 10:18 PM
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24. I support the Demcoratic party and want to speak out
against two less than intellectually honest people with a long history of improperly and unfairly bashing the Democrats. Why did you feel the need to post your less than civil comments?
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 10:30 PM
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27. I'm not sure what is "less than civil" about my comment.
I was pointing out you stated you did not watch the vid but still found the need to bash it. How is that less than civil? I didn't attack you personally. Yet you found the need to attack me.
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Chisox08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 10:43 PM
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31. I know I know party over principles.
Democrats don't march in lockstep. We are not Republicans even though the party has moved further and further to the right over the past 30 years.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 07:31 AM
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44. Nope principles over self interest
Edited on Thu Aug-12-10 07:31 AM by NJmaverick
That's where I stand
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 10:29 AM
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 09:45 PM
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13. So, how do you feel about what Gibbs did to Howard Dean
Edited on Wed Aug-11-10 09:46 PM by sabrina 1
which may have cost this country four more years of Bush?

And since Jane Hamsher has been vilified for signing a petition also signed by Grover Norquist, how do you feel about Grover being invited to make recommendations at Obama's Deficit Commission? I know I didn't work to have Grover Norquist as an adviser to a Democratic administration ... just fyi.

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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 09:48 PM
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15. it was terrible! I never in my entire life saw one Democrat say a bad thing about another democrat
Edited on Wed Aug-11-10 09:50 PM by NJmaverick
during a primary. What an aweful man that mean Mr. Gibbs is! democrats only say and do nice things to one another when they are runnning against each other! :sarcasm:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 09:57 PM
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 10:04 PM
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18. Were confronted with the FACT that Democrats go after one another
during primaries and that it is disingenious to single out Gibbs for doing what every other Dem does. Your reaction? Slander
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 10:07 PM
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 10:10 PM
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23. Hey, nice broad brush smear!
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 10:05 PM
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19. Are you just trying to avoid what I'm talking about, do you
really not know, or, which would be seriously incredible, do you approve of what he did in 2004?

You made a comment about Greenwald and Hamsher being 'mock' journalists. Frankly I don't think either one has ever claimed to be a journalist, they are bloggers, sort of like Ben Franklin used to be only he did not reveal his name as they do.

But I asked for your opinion on a 'mock' expert on the economy, Grover Norquist. I'd still like to know what you think of a Democratic administration seeking his advice on the economy? Greewald and Hamsher don't make policy, this Commission is likely being used to privatize SS, so it seems odd to me to give more importance to too bloggers than to a Commission that can actually affect policy.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 10:08 PM
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21. You are being disingenious to single out Gibbs for doing what EVERY Democrat does
Edited on Wed Aug-11-10 10:09 PM by NJmaverick
Just because you have an agenda to smear Gibbs does not mean you can ignore the fact that he was engaged in typical political behavior.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 10:09 PM
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 10:31 PM
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28. If you can point to a single respected Democrat
Edited on Wed Aug-11-10 10:33 PM by sabrina 1
who, in the middle of the Bush years, was a member of a shadowy group, the kind I thought only Republicans used to go after Dems, and was behind an ad featuring a photo of Osama Bin Ladin, telling people that Bush would be better than Dean, at the time a very viable candidate with a good chance to defeat Bush, for National Security, then try to hide the fact that he was involved, please name that person, I'd like to know who it is.

I don't have to smear Gibbs. Smearing is his department, and in the most cowardly way. I only wish I had known about this when it happened. I always thought it was Republicans who were behind the attacks on Dean. Rove would be very proud of Gibbs.

Now that you know, how would you feel if some Dems got together and featured a similar ad about Obama in 2012 suggesting that Romney or Palin would keep us safer than Obama? Just because those Dems wanted Obama to lose? You are so dismissive of this, I'm frankly surprised considering how upset you get about any slight, and small policy disagreement with Obama. And NO, Dems do NOT do this all the time. It should have gotten him thrown out of the party back then.

Name a Democrat who has stooped that low, about as low as anyone could, and is still a respected member of the party.

And you still haven't given your opinion on Norquist as an adviser to a Democratic Commission although I have a feeling you have an opinion on Jane Hansher's brief association with him.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 10:49 PM
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33. It is amazing how little credibility you have.
It some kind of conceptual art project of yours, isn't it?
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ShamelessHussy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 01:29 AM
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42. lol
thanks for helping to illustrate their point (the base not only is not even listened to - though fox 'news' is - and we get no respect)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 10:28 AM
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 10:22 PM
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25. Jane Hamster is a twit
C'mon I KNOW you agree!
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 05:43 PM
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49. You took 2 short sentences to smear and defame
twits. You should be ashamed!
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Grassy Knoll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 11:15 PM
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34. wasn't that fun.......
Like the 3rd grade without a teacher.

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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 11:27 PM
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35. Well if you're in the 3rd grade.....
...you need to be in the bed.

- And if you're a 3rd grade teacher, then you've probably been drinking since the last bell and I'm surprised you can still type so well......

/snark
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Grassy Knoll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 12:01 AM
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37. Don't judge me bro........

:toast:
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ShamelessHussy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 01:30 AM
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43. ic
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 12:02 AM
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38. This is ot but Greenwald is one of those rare people who can speak
as well as he writes. I wish he got more air time.
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another saigon Donating Member (450 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 08:06 AM
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45. I agree completely
I love to listen to Laura Flanders as well. The left has so many great representatives that never get heard outside of the internets.

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