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TrollBuster9090 Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 09:26 PM
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Fox's editing job incites counter violence? What's your opinion on this?
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I'm curious to know what you all think of this editing job. A violent incident at a North Carolina Tea Party rally involving Nathan Tabor, the Chairman of the Forsyth County Republican Party.

Here's what happened:
There's a tea party protest. A guy named Governor Spencer comes up to the Tea Party protesters and tells them they're full of it. A shouting match ensues. Spencer tries to leave, Tabor and his wife block him from walking away on the sidewalk. He asks/demands that they "move." At most, Spencer touches Tabor's wife with the tips of his fingers. Tabor then violently shoves Spencer, telling him "don't touch my wife, you got it!?" Spencer then punches Tabor after being shoved.

The sequence of events is clearly shown here (on the website of a conservative wingnut, ironically) where several videos from different angles are spliced together. Watch the whole thing, and then watch from the 1:20 minute mark where the video shot from the back overlaps with Tabor's own video, which cuts out as soon as he starts shoving Spencer saying "don't touch my wife, you got it?". You can clearly see that Spencer didn't shove Tabor's wife and, at most, might have touched her with the tips of his fingers to convince her to move out of his way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlbf4lQApYs

And then Fox News shows the video you see above, where they CAREFULLY EDIT OUT the two seconds that preceded the punch, showing Tabor shoving Spencer, and claim that Spencer punched Tabor without provocation. Editing it and showing it that way would, no doubt, stir up violent feelings from the Tea Party crowd.

Is that what Fox is trying to do? Or do they even realize that editing it this way will incite violence?
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 09:31 PM
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1. Yes, that is what they are trying to do!
Reminiscent of some of the dictator type regimes changing stories to fit their purpose.

I think violence from the right is going to tick up moving toward the Nov elections.
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Crowman1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 09:49 PM
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2. Looks like Breitbart is up to his dirty tricks again.
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TrollBuster9090 Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 12:19 AM
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4. This is a hack job even by Breitbart/O'Keiffe standards.
At least in the past they weren't so blatant about their distortions of the truth. They could deny they knew O'Keefe's pimp movie was edited and blame it on Breitbart, who in turn could blame it on O'Keefe. But this, the time they edited out the applause for Obama's speech at West Point, and the time they spliced together earlier washington protest footage to make the washington teaparty crowd look bigger than it actually was are the latest three examples of them editing footage to distort the truth without even bothering with a "CUTOUT" figure to blame it on. (Or, a "plausibly deniable link" as Oliver North described himself at the Iran/Contra hearings.) In the past they at least cared about editing things in such a way that they couldn't be blamed for the editing.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 11:07 PM
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3. Frame things the way they want them to be, not necessarily as they
are.

Happens all the time. I chalk it up to putting Republicans
in the best light while making Democrats look as bad as they can.
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 12:45 AM
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5. Great left hook
bravo,bravo,hit him again harder,harder.Now for the rest of the story,why did he hit the chickenshit tea drinker?
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TrollBuster9090 Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 01:25 AM
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6. Haha! Well, technically it was a left cross, but
he hit him because the teadrinker shoved him first. Don't get me wrong, both parties bear some of the blame, and could/should have diffused things before they came to that. But a comparison of the two videos shows that A) Spencer was clearly provoked, and B) Fox News carefully edited the video to make it look like he wasn't so that they can continue spreading their stupid narrative about Obama and his scary black enforcer thugs. Watch out everybody! The New World Order is coming, and it's gonna be Black Panthers flying the Black Helicopters!
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 02:23 PM
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7. I agree with your assessment at 1'20"
It looked like Mr. and Mrs. Tabor were encroaching on Mr. Spencer as he tried to leave. It appeared he simply tried to suggest a path with his fingers. It's an old trick: get in somebody's face and when he tries to finagle past you and touches you in doing so, scream "Assault!" and start swinging...
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TrollBuster9090 Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 04:21 PM
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8. Yes, and ironically, Tabor's own video provides the
strongest evidence that he was provoking Spencer. As soon as his camera goes on he appears to be blocking SPencer, and Tabor is saying 'don't touch my property again' referring to his camera. He and his wife are boxing Spencer in and preventing him from getting to his car. Eventually Spencer loses his temper and pushes Tabor, then Tabor's wife deliberately comes in between them. Then when Tabor starts violently shoving Spencer you can hear Tabor's wife yelling "Nathan, NO!" suggesting that even Tabor's own wife thought he was going too far with it. Then, as soon as the shoving begins Tabor's camera goes off, and back on again when Spencer is in his car. Spencer admits to punching him in response to being shoved, but denies that he aver pushed Tabor's wife.

Tabor later appeared on the Neil Cavuto show, claimed that Spencer had "pushed his wife three times" (which there is no video evidence of), and the discussion then moved to the subject of how awful it was that the liberal police and "activist magistrate" then charged Tabor with assault, proving they're all biased against conservatives...blah blah blah...
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