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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 09:05 PM
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Marijuana Raid Caught on Tape - Two Dogs Shot
 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V--tz3IMCY4
 
Posted on YouTube: May 08, 2010
By YouTube Member: TheYoungTurks
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Posted on DU: May 08, 2010
By DU Member: Bullet1987
Views on DU: 3817
 
Cenk nails the War on Drugs BS in this video. Over 100 raids like these A DAY!! Because of a "neighbors tip." This guy probably had no more than $20 worth of weed in his house.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 09:21 PM
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1. That's just sick beyond description.
:cry:
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 09:54 PM
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2. There are no words that I can type to describe my outrage.
So i will try to make sure that this doesn't happen where I live.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 10:13 PM
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3. Which is the worser offense..
busting down someone's door and shooting their dogs or smoking a joint in your own home?

Gee, let me think about that for a while.

:eyes:
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 09:30 AM
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20. Not only that but what about...
Edited on Sun May-09-10 09:31 AM by SkyDaddy7
The cops shooting the family pets in front of the children then charging the parents with Child Endangerment just because they had a small amount of weed? Yet it is perfectly OK to be drunk as skunk on alcohol in front of your kids? This country has its priorities so messed up!

Literally the most harmful & dangerous aspect of smoking marijuana is the laws!
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 05:45 PM
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35. Yeah, we must mull this over.
Geesh, which is it? :eyes:
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 10:23 PM
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4. WTF I'm mean just WTF n/t
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 10:31 PM
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5. Extremely disturbing. nt
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skeptical cynic Donating Member (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 11:33 PM
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6. So, when I tell my grandchildren about the police...
What do I tell them?

Maybe I should just show them this video and let them decide about the police for themselves.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 11:56 PM
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7. I can't believe Cenk, Defending this bullshit with all kinds of
excuses. Not acceptable Cenk, you just went down 1000 points in my book. The girl was closer to the mark. Cenk is proof we have been brainwashed into excepting this Nazi bullshit. The Gestapo can get a warrant on any fantastic pretext and break down any door. THIS IS FASCISM FOLKS. AND THE YOUNG INCLUDING CENK DON'T GET IT. Very disappointed in someone I had a lot of respect for.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 12:06 AM
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8. I encourage you to post a message about it.
If you write a well thought out blog post explaining in detail why you disagreed so strongly, I'll make sure he sees it. Post it at www.theyoungturks.com (create a free account if you don't already have one) and let me know when it's up.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 05:49 PM
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37. Does Cenk have pet dogs?
Has he ever had a dog? It is like shooting a family member, Cenk.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 07:24 PM
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40. No
I know he doesn't have one now and I'm pretty sure he didn't grew up with them either.
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 01:13 AM
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9. They should be
treated like Michael Vick.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 05:47 PM
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36. They shot a fucking Welsh Corgi!
Animals!
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 01:20 AM
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10. There are other even nastier undercurrents in that footage.
Those cops went in there prepared to kill, not in the sense that any cop has to be so prepared, but with no intent at all to attempt to subdue, anything resembling resistance was going to be met with deadly force from the get go. Chances are high that if that kid had come out swinging his baseball bat, to defend his dad, he'd be dead now. Tazers (whatever their drawbacks) were not at the ready here.

Perhaps someone should consider a show highlighting these types of raids to accompany shows like "Cops". All in the interest of equal time of course.


Now I love a good "Stupid Criminal" show, but seeing this highlights the existence of the footage we don't see. And the simple fact that never do we hear the Superintendant of Police respond to the leaking of such footage with: "Yes, I am fully aware of this matter and a review of the records shows that 3 officers were refered for criminal charges, 2 more fired, and another 3 subject to internal discipline." is entirely damning. No action is taken when a ballsup like this occurs UNTIL (and unless) there is sufficient public attention that "examples must be made" and even then all attempts at minimisation are attempted.

A few hours of observation, at a cost far less than that of the raid itself, would have determined the family situation here not to mention the presence of the dogs. And also the likelihood of the tipoff being accurate. Also give a feel for the size and type of any "operation" that migh be present. Visitor patterns will show if it's someone subsidising themselves or a more major seller worthy of a hard approach.

The race/profiling card could also do with some scrutiny here.

I could go on about how the ubiquity of (often unsecured) firearms in America makes this type of hard raid more the rule than the exception as is the case in most other First World nations.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 11:52 AM
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22. +1 if you consider the drug wars constitutional and rational.
I do not....The "drug wars" were the beginning of the end of this country as a democracy. This is and was the Pugs nuclear option and they deployed it a long time ago and now they are reaping the rewards of their biggest money makers; War, unbridled pillaging, destitution of the many and pure greed....and over what?....pot!. Where did the sanity of this country go? That dogs life was worth the soulless lives of that entire Nazi operation. Worthless, soulless folks control this country and are and are willing to sell it down the river.....and that is a fact. The life of that dog was as precious as any who think the way those gestapo gang members thought. We have seen the terrorists and they are us.
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Oldenuff Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 01:50 AM
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11. Sick sobs!


I don't know how anyone could have even a modicum of respect for the police after viewing this video.I am also of the opinion that this type of behavior is become the norm instead of the exception.I hate to wish anyone or anything ill,but I would be silently hoping that someone would murder the officers dogs...if they have any.(or if they would even care).

Remind me to never visit Columbia Mo.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 10:43 PM
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44. The officer's dogs don't deserve abuse
they didn't ask to be stuck with those assh*les. The officers themselves should be locked away for good!
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PatrynXX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 04:19 AM
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12. I heard about the video maybe 2 days ago.
Having seen and heard this fucking shit... whoever shot those dogs can be compared directly to Michael Vick and hopefully be put in jail.


Now of course if I had my way. I amount the killing of pets to murder. Automatic life sentence. With the possibility of parole. $20 pot vs killing one dog and wounding another. If anybody but "swat" they'd be facing animal cruelty. You'd see it on the Animal Cops show and the guy or gal would be in handcuffs. Reminds me of these sick soldiers in Iraq I think that just for kicks threw a puppy off a cliff. You could hear it screaming all the way down. America turning into a sick place. So in Russia they have the Russian Mafia. here. We got swat that is so uninformed, it makes the Publishers Clearing House folks look like the super brains. Just the amount of research making sure they know when the people will be there and exactly what house. Hello swat? Say... can I get Jorja Fox to kick you in the ass (CSI's Sara Sidle ) I'm assuming she's already heard about this. But could be wrong. She's a big Peta supporter though so I can't see how she'd miss it.
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borelord Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 05:29 AM
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13. man....
I couldn't disagree with Cenk more on this one. Like the Corgi was gonna chew through their jackboots and kevlar right? And wasn't the pitbull in a cage?
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 07:12 AM
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14. Intelligence, intelligence, intelligence. What I mean is twofold by...........
.............intelligence. First, you would think with all their toys and guns a'blazin that they would have done at least some investigation into exactly where and what they might be up against before the raid. Secondly, "intelligence" is something these blockhead motherfuckers just don't have. Because there is no forethought or planning, this is the reason we are "losing" the so called war on drugs and the "wars" in Afghanistan and Iraq. I thought the weirdest part was all the yelling, shooting and then they lead the wife and child out saying "it's okay, it's alright" after the wife and kid shit all over themselves. This is why I hate most cops and why I think all have what I call the "John Wayne complex". They get some kind of sexual thrill taking an hour getting dressed up in their "re-enactor" outfits and "playing cop". All I can say is: Watch what you say on ANY phone today in America.



NO EXCUSE AT ALL FOR THIS TYPE OF SHIT IN THE USA.
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droidamus2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 07:40 AM
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15. Agree and disagree
I agree with Cenk that the most important thing is to address the bigger problem and end the war on drug users NOW! I totally disagree with his acceptance of the Gestapo tactics of the SWAT team. These guys are a bunch of cowboys that get all hyped up to go into somebodies house and raise hell. The whole 'they got the warrant because the neighbor narced' is right up there with the proverbial anonymous source that the cops like to use as an excuse to hassle somebody. As far as I'm concerned the neighbors accusation shouldn't even have been enough to get a warrant and therefore whoever the judge was that signed off on was a lazy ass as well. You will never convince me that with a little actual police work that the cops couldn't have determined what the situation was (man, woman, child, couple of dogs) and handled it differently. Gee, maybe something as simple as sending an undercover cop to the door with some excuse about looking for an address or something and trying to get a look into the house to see what the situation is before breaking in. As somebody else said a little surveillance would work too.

The cops and their supporters have done a very good propaganda job of making people think every drug dealer is highly armed, violent and will come out with guns blazing and numerous attack dogs to protect their stash. Not to say there aren't some real jerks dealing drugs especially when dealing with larger quantities or high value products but your basic neighborhood pot dealer is not looking to get themselves and their family killed over a couple of ounces of pot.

Absolutely no excuse for killing the family dog. Why not have an animal control person/cop that is padded enough to take on the dog while the other 12 cops take care of the people. Shooting the animals says to me that the attitude is 'I don't have time to deal with no damn animal so I'll just blow em away'.
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dotymed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 08:44 AM
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16. America is a police state.
These swat teams (100x a day!) barge into peoples homes, use deadly force with no provocation, and treat ordinary citizens like shit that is stuck to their boot. What is really happening here? It is just training (against the underclass) so that if Americans ever grow a spine and tell the government "no more, we deserve our freedoms and property just as much as the wealthy", the elites will already have a domestic, viscous enforcement tool. Just change the name from the war on drugs, to the war on terra (domestic non-violent citizens who demand parity). These assholes are trained to obey and destroy just as if they were empire building for the corptocracy. They'll kill the intellectuals, laugh and go have some beers, telling stories about their great bravery. They were "just following orders" will be their mantra should they ever be prosecuted for their atrocities. We desperately need movements like Dr. King led, and yes even the black panthers. They had daycare centers, fed the hungry and even though they fought violence with violence, they helped us win civil rights and worried the elites enough, that they declared a "war on poverty." That war doesn't need neanderthals with weapons killing you and/or your pets. Did they ever claim "mission accomplished" on that one?
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Stumbler Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 10:46 AM
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21. I fully agree. It's unacceptable, & unamerican
And to follow up on your comment about "just following orders", if anyone ever got prosecuted, it'd end up being the lowest guy in the department who gets shafted for the entire event while everyone above him who helped to orchestrate these massacres would get to continue their day jobs with no penalty. Our founding fathers must be rolling in their graves at what our nation has become...
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 08:47 AM
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17. COLUMBIA, MO POLICE DEPT IS FULL OF NAZI THUGS!!!
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 05:55 PM
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38. Imagine that.
In a redneck state like Missouri who woulda thunk it.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 09:04 AM
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18. The War on drugs is an act of TREASON. It is CONSTITUTIONALLY illegal for our Government to declare
Edited on Sun May-09-10 09:05 AM by Wizard777
war on us. We need to start hanging people for this treason against Americans. I'm talking from survivors of Reagan Bush right down to every cop that bared a weapon in the war against Americans. Put them on trial and hang every last one of them. It's not drugs that can't be tolerated. It's Treason that cannot be tolerated in the least.
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Cherchez la Femme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 09:06 AM
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19. U.S. Map & info of botched police/paramilitary raids - CATO INSTITUTE
Edited on Sun May-09-10 09:13 AM by Cherchez la Femme
Hardly a 'leftist-'bleeding heart' institute

http://www.cato.org/raidmap /
'

The U.S. people are under attack from what has become a Police State, including & especially under the guise of "the war on drugs"... only becoming worse under The "Patriot" Act defended by the last & present administrations.

Unconstitutional. Unforgivable.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 11:54 AM
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23. Fucking bacon fried Nazi trash pigs
Edited on Sun May-09-10 12:12 PM by Downtown Hound
So, where's all the vocal cop defenders now? And what do you think will happen to these jack booted thugs? You think they will spend a day in jail for the crimes against this man? Nah, at worst they'll probably be sued.

Oh and, Cenk? I love you man, but you're way off on this commentary. It's precisely this kind of jacked up mentality that cops have when they raid houses like this in the drug war that causes incidents like this. If all it takes is a tip from your neighbor to get raided like this in the name of "officer safety," then we have a real big problem.
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Andronex Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 11:56 AM
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24. It's part of a pattern...
It's part of a pattern and it's deliberate, the militarization of police forces in America generously funded by the federal government, the ruling class know the middle class is going down and they are making sure they won't lose control...
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 12:06 PM
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26. +1 nt
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 12:04 PM
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25. I weep for that family, of which, their dogs are loving members.
That child is traumatized for life. This clip makes clear that it is we who are the terrorists. If you fear your government (as we must, proven by this film amongst countless others, that government is nothing less than tyranny.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 12:11 PM
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27. I heard that one of the dogs was in a cage and they shot him anyway
:wtf:
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Tutankhamun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 02:14 PM
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28. It's a sad day for america when the war on drugs becomes the war on dogs.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 02:30 PM
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29. The following statement will be released once a report is completed:
"Our investigation found that the officers acted in according to their training."


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Boudica the Lyoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 02:35 PM
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30. I hate the police in this country
Edited on Sun May-09-10 02:36 PM by Boudica the Lyoness
I have no respect for them.

I hate them because they are the terrorists. They are the enemy. This could have been my home.
I'm disgusted.

Where are the DU police lovers that crawl out of the woodwork to defend these monsters no matter what atrocity they commit?
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 07:22 PM
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39. +1. 99 percent of cops are corrupt, power hungry horrible people.
All they want to do is use their guns and intimidate, not protect and serve. They don't try to stop real crimes instead they search for people who are minding their own business and harass them. Fuck the police. Only met one cop that was decent, but he was a state trooper and patrolled a rural part of Alabama and didn't care what you did as long as it wasn't in a car. One.

Police: To bully and arrest.

I couldn't watch this because it said there were dogs being shot, I don't know if it shows it or not but I just couldn't do it.
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Sky Masterson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 03:32 PM
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31. I can't watch this..
This can not be my America...
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20score Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 03:32 PM
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32. When the hell are people going to end this fucking drug war?
Edited on Sun May-09-10 03:32 PM by 20score
And send cops like that to prison where they belong.
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Ticonderoga Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 04:09 PM
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33. If those were my dogs.
These fucking assholes would need to grow eyes in the backs of their heads.
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Ticonderoga Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 04:15 PM
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34. Man I am so sorry I even watched that shit
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chrisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 08:39 PM
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42. Everybody should watch this.
It needs to spread like wildfire.

Especially those that trust the police to "protect and serve" them, when many of them have no respect for the law.
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chrisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 08:35 PM
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41. That dog that was in a cage will never hurt anybody ever again!
:argh:
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 08:58 PM
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43. I sent an email to the head of the swat team.
Called him a fucking wussie pig who gets his rocks off playing war, etc. etc. Basically explained to him what was up.

Got a quick response from a bulk auto-responder:

Thank you for your clever and thoughtful missive. I deeply appreciate your concern.

Tom


I dare say he's getting quite a few similar "missives".

He should be fired and sent to prison. It would be interesting to see if he has any buddies in there. Perhaps some folks who have received similar treatment from him and his punk-ass thugs. I'm surprised they didn't shoot the kids as well.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 10:46 PM
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45. What's the pig's email address? nt
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 10:58 PM
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46. Here...
Tom Dresner is his name.

tgd@gocolumbiamo.com
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